120W LED + Rainforest 66 + Papaya

proman said:

LED best for SOG? not enough punch in that light for such a large plant. The veg looked great but when it came time to flower the papaya.... what happened?

Click to expand...

Read my last 5-7 posts if you want to know what happened.

Well, 100% LED just wasn't meant to be. I picked up a sunlight supply 150w HPS today. I'm going to begin flowering 4 soil plants tomorrow under the 150w HPS + 55w LED + 50w LED. The plants have been vegging for just over a month under the LEDs.

I'm expecting big things, stay tuned for pics.

The papaya is coming along ok I guess. I need to get my G13 clones in the rainforest soon, so I'm going to start the flush tomorrow and will harvest within 2 weeks.

i think you are on the right track with hps for bloom ..thats what i always used ...but for sure those led have alot of potential for vegg

o and bro we got the same system right ....rainforests 66 unit .....i never had a good bloom with those ...but it is the best veg machine i have ever used ....

....check this out ...and ive been doin it ......u get a nice fat vegged plant from rainforest and then you can transfer the whole 6inch net cup with hydroton ...i take off the little coir top that sits on top of the pebbles and i basically plant that right into a normal pot ....soil would work ....i use coir and basically the idea here is using that rainforest to boost plants veg cycle so they have an awesome bloom

here is a pic of one such transplant ...and some that went to buckets (those are nice cause it also uses pebbles ) and i dont have to dig out pebbles ....not that it is hard ...they all stay together

Nice looking plants, that is a really good idea about using the rainforest for veg only. Do you transplant just prior to flowering?

Also forgot to mention that rat of yours is pretty cool

I went directly from 24/0 to 12/12 today, day 1 of flowering. These are all from seed so sexes are uncertain.

1 x G13 Haze (Smallest plant, most sativa looking)
1 x Mango (Largest plant w/ very bushy canopy)
2 x Double Gum

Pic 1: HPS on
Pic 2: LED panels on
Pic 3: Everything on

Wow, very healthy looking plants going into flower. I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised at your yield. This takes care of the IR signals we were talking about, and probably some of the UV as well. Keep on truckin'! +rep (if it lets me)

My new mothers are now under my custom LED panel w/ a couple soft white CFLs to fill out the spectrum just added yesterday. The big experiments won't start until these mothers produce babies, though.

C2C

yea i transplant basically the day i put em into flower ........i found this to be best cause ..well then of course the rainforest can always stay in veg lighting area

i am currently using the 2inch netcup inserts on the rainforest to supply vegged plants for a new (stinkbud system i am building) it is basically an NFT system .....ummm it is workin nice tho and i still keep a couple inserts for 6 inch starts that go to bucket ....the buckets are really what is my best kung fu

so far that is ......the new NFT system is rockin the stock ...so i think i stumbled onto a new thing ....

but my patients are very dependant on me so i need to keep up a certain supply of medicine and that is why i have like 3 diff systems workin now (ebb and flo , NFT , buckets) so i only phase one out if it dont work ...and basically my main producer (ebb and flo ) is goin by way of dinosaur

ill keep you updated fo sure bro ....and ill tell you what with your setup already i can show you how to expand if you ever feel the need

i think this new system solves so many hassles tho ...its a very set it and forget it machine like the rainforest

anyways im rambling lol take it easy

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions guys.

The HPS + LED combo seems to be kicking ass so far. Today I spotted female flowers on the G13 haze and small bumps I believe will become male flowers on the Mango. I don't want to bother growing more Mango seeds to find a female, so I might cross this male with G13 or double gum. Here are some more pics...I'm very proud of these plants so far, definitely my best work to date.

Pic 1: The 2 double gums up front.
Pic 2: Higher shot showing G13 in the back left and Mango in the back right.
Pic 3: Mango...such a dense greasy indica...how could I not breed this?
Pic 4: G13...all credit to the genetics here.
Pic 5:

I'm finally joining to perpetual harvest club too

Subscribe.

No time to read this right now but it looks interesting. Will look at it tomorrow.

lookin good bro those are nice and healthy

Mango looks realy dense and bushy the G13 looks nice also if your mango is male try crossing with fastest growin strain

Check out this pic of the G13 with the LED and HPS spectrums colliding.

Pic 2 shows the mango, which is now a confirmed male. I'm trying to decide wether to breed now or wait, because I do have a rooted clone from this that I could easily cross with a G13 clone. The G13 is a confirmed female.

Pic 3 shows the double gums which have still not shown sex.

But 206,!

I thought leds were the shit111!!!

And that HTG panel was teh best!

Damn,

I'm sorry to hear your disappointment.

It's time for you to join the more watts for more yield camp.

I'll be starting a G13 grow with the 120w soon enough. I'm not convinced the light was the problem, but this upcoming grow will tell.

Things really couldn't be going any better right now, loving these dank little plants.

206 you traiter!!! you went HPS on us.... I have been following this thread from start to finish and Treeth we cant say 100% that the 120W panel was the problem with the papaya. It could have been anything from genetics to the fact that no ventilation was used. Stagnant air proabably sat under the leaves for most of the time slowing growth in both veg and flower. The 120W panel made some NICE looking plants in VEG but maybe there jsut wasnnt enough air to produce more yeild. I know it would not have been much more from the strength used with all of his LEDS.



206.. I was just kidding about the tratior comment, i myself have almost everything the same as you and you cant argue with what works. My current lighting combo contains a 120W Triband LED two 50W Triband LED's a 90W Triband UFO Two 2700K 100W CFL's for flowering , A UVB 10.0 CFL , and a Infared bulb And yes... a 250W "Air Sealed" HPS light. I expect to have BEAUTIFUL babies going soon, I have not started yet,.

Sorry treeth Couldnt afford to go the all LED way but as you can see from my setup i do heavly lean the way of LEDS..althougth they are low power peices of shit like we mentioned LOL... For now the 250W HPS is the best way to get what i need to get done. Great work 206 the new girls are looking MORE THEN GREAT.. fine work and i will be following closely because oursetups are very close to the same.. May i suggest a small exaust fan at the top of your tent could increase your results by 50% who knows.. .. even if its only 300 CFM, and maybe even .. Also get a small oscilating fan to blow around inside.. not to tell you what to do im no expert.. i just know what i read. Treeth is the real expert around here lol

Fine work

*EDITORS NOTE*
Treeth i was refering to the HTG LEDS not the ones you make yourself as those are works of art and extreamly effective

I cut the papaya down yesterday, its fan drying now. I've found almost 20 seeds so far just on the floor of the tent and I'm expecting many more are tucked away in the buds. This sucks since I have no interest in planting any of them, but its another explanation for the small bud production. I knew it was a hermie but thought I found and cut all the balls in time...oh well.

Good news is I transplanted all my G13 and double gum clones to soil under the 120w today. Round 2 of the 120w trial has officially begun. The Rainforest 66 is going to take the rest of the summer off. I'm out and about fucking around too much to be bothered with all that maintenance, not to mention battling summer res temps or adding a chiller.

@Ap0c0leS: Sounds like a great setup you have going with all those varieties of light. I did actually add an exhaust about half-way into flowering, but yeah I think it caused a lot of problems earlier on that just were not apparent to me at the time.

just wondering if we can see some pics of the buds on papaya
and a smoke report would be nice