12/12 from seed - northern lights, ata tundra

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born2killspam

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What is your soil pH? How often do you water?? Those don't look at all like NL or AT.. More sativa than anything from lobe width.. Personally I'd top them above the second node and take them out of 12/12..
Read up on GypsyBush's journals for advice on lolipopping..
 
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alright well putting them back in veg is not an option because i need bud ASAP, i only have about a half of an ounce and a vial of oil to last me till these are done. I'm ordering more seeds tonight (I've been looking at feminized cheese from greenhouse) and will be starting them immediately but I would still like to get a decent yield from these. & those are all NL because all the AT were males, i still have one AT just in case i wanna make some seeds.
sooo yeah, I decided to take mammath's advice and LST them. here they are now.
 

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born2killspam

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I'd start gearing up for a serious dry spell then.. You're already more than a month in, and you got no buds.. Time for LST has long since passed, your internodes are gigantic, and your stalks are puny.. Starting over is your only chance to yield more than a joint or two off those plants.. Sorry, thats just reality..
 
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born2killspam said:
I'd start gearing up for a serious dry spell then.. You're already more than a month in, and you got no buds.. Time for LST has long since passed, your internodes are gigantic, and your stalks are puny.. Starting over is your only chance to yield more than a joint or two off those plants.. Sorry, thats just reality..
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really? fuck :(
so there's no way in hell i could get a decent yield from these?
 
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Not in this 12/12 cycle.. If you were to reveg them, then top them way down, and train them early to suit your lights (which are what btw?), then you could probably turn them around, but its something I would never do unless the genetics were good enough to waste alot of time/effort saving.. Starting from scratch is just as fast..
Most logical thing to do would be to top them and clone the cuts.. Fastest route to bud would be to obtain a clone from a plant currently in veg state if possible..
 
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I understand what born2kill is talking about but...

I estimate you will probably yield an oz from these three babies leaving them as is. That will take another 5 - 6 weeks maybe.
I like what you've done to them with the LST. Those bottom nodes will get more light now but they will only ever be popcorn nugs. The majority of your limited yield will come from your top colas.
I've had plants where the top cola alone can weigh in at more than 1/2 oz dry.
I'm not saying this will be the case for you because it is strain and light related but...you will surely end up with more than a couple of joints.

You need to decide what you want to do.
I say finish these off, they're not worth fucking around with too much. You should get 1 oz of smoke in 6 weeks. In the mean time get some GHSC cheese seeds going, veg for month or so, and then put them into 12/12 when these finish.
So whatever you yield with these will have to last you until the cheese is ready.
 
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grind

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Mammath said:
I understand what born2kill is talking about but...

I estimate you will probably yield an oz from these three babies leaving them as is. That will take another 5 - 6 weeks maybe.
I like what you've done to them with the LST. Those bottom nodes will get more light now but they will only ever be popcorn nugs. The majority of your limited yield will come from your top colas.
I've had plants where the top cola alone can weigh in at more than 1/2 oz dry.
I'm not saying this will be the case for you because it is strain and light related but...you will surely end up with more than a couple of joints.

You need to decide what you want to do.
I say finish these off, they're not worth fucking around with too much. You should get 1 oz of smoke in 6 weeks. In the mean time get some GHSC cheese seeds going, veg for month or so, and then put them into 12/12 when these finish.
So whatever you yield with these will have to last you until the cheese is ready.
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well that made me feel a lot better, i was like "all of this for a couple fucking joints!?!?!" lol. but yeah, that's a good plan man, i will definitely be doing that up. thanks a lot for the advice :]

i just ordered my new seeds and i decided to go with a bunch of different strains... i got trainwreck, white widow, cheese, big bang, and a.m.s., all feminized.
 
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nahh, I just ordered them from worldwide-marijuana-seeds, all those strains are from greenhouse except for the white widow which is from seedsman, i've heard lots of good things about it. where do you get these indica mix packs?
 
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If im not mistaken you mentioned cfls being terrible? well my friend using flouro t8 32w tubes i grew quite the bushy plant using 12/12 from seed(nodes 2in apart) it may be your strain thats causing such lanky girls possibly the light but pertaining to flouros...you sir are wrong...

peace, love, and cannabis :leaf:
 
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Melthius420 said:
If im not mistaken you mentioned cfls being terrible? well my friend using flouro t8 32w tubes i grew quite the bushy plant using 12/12 from seed(nodes 2in apart) it may be your strain thats causing such lanky girls possibly the light but pertaining to flouros...you sir are wrong...

peace, love, and cannabis :leaf:
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Yeah i'm sure you can grow good bud with CFLs, i just don't think it's worth having to mess around with all those sockets and whatnot and having to constantly move your lights around, it got really frustrating for me. Plus, an HPS is cheaper in the long run because CFLs lose lumens quickly so you're constantly buying more. but, as is frequently said on here, to each their own.

I actually just started my new grow with trainwreck, ams, cheese, big bang, and white widow and will be using my old CFLs to veg cause i have nothing else. lol
 
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born2killspam

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I'm with grind.. The irony is that to get sufficient cfls to grow anything 'worthwhile' you're going to pay ALOT more than it would cost to go to an electrical/lighting outfitter you find in your phonebook and buy an HID kit that will grow a sweet crop as it should be done..
A few years back I got 400W hps kits for $55/Canadian.. Came with everything except cords.. Last time I saw 42W cfls they were $10.99, and you'd need 15-20 of those to actually match the photosynthetic power..
Smaller fluorescents aren't too great.. Waay too much heat/light.. (Another irony I know, but its a fact).. And its nearly impossible to get sufficient intensity to keep them happy after 12/12 begins.. HID (HPS inparticular) will give you the least amount of heat/watt of photosynthetically active radiation.. Boils down to conservation of energy, that first law of thermodynamics can be such a bitch..
 
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