12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

Hot Diggity Sog

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Looks like I'm going to have to buy a chiller too. My vegetable prototype is going very well but water temps have surpassed 70. I was hoping my basement would stay cool enough but I don't think it will. The expenses never end...haha
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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So I am utterly shocked at what I saw when I took a shovel and dug out a big chunk of one of the tubs. These tubs had 50 liters of perlite on the bottom and then 1.5 blocks of coco on top of that. A very light coco/perlite mix was sprinkled on top a little later. There is no evidence that the roots ever made it to the perlite. It is as if they hit the bottom of the coco and then simply stopped. I really don't know what to make of this.

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Sativied

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It is as if they hit the bottom of the coco and then simply stopped. I really don't know what to make of this.
Just thinking out loud, but if the perlite is dry and the coco wet the roots would grow towards the wetter side. It's something I need to keep in mind with small plants in large soil pots too, in that case watering from the bottom (letting the medium suck it up) or at least soaking it thoroughly every watering encourages it to use the entire pot. Water moderately from the top has the opposite effect and tend to turn the top layer in a root mass. From what I read you water plenty with run off, but is that drain at the bottom or on the side like a hempy bottle? Perhaps the coco+roots suck the perlite dry before the coco dries out? Based on the size of the plants and the amount of them I did expect more roots. Just shows again what a great job you did though, keeping them healthy with less roots is even harder.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Just thinking out loud, but if the perlite is dry and the coco wet the roots would grow towards the wetter side. It's something I need to keep in mind with small plants in large soil pots too, in that case watering from the bottom (letting the medium suck it up) or at least soaking it thoroughly every watering encourages it to use the entire pot. Water moderately from the top has the opposite effect and tend to turn the top layer in a root mass. From what I read you water plenty with run off, but is that drain at the bottom or on the side like a hempy bottle? Perhaps the coco+roots suck the perlite dry before the coco dries out? Based on the size of the plants and the amount of them I did expect more roots. Just shows again what a great job you did though, keeping them healthy with less roots is even harder.
I think your assessment was spot on. The coco in the tubs is still quite moist, even after almost a week of harvesting. The perlite is bone dry.
 

bf80255

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So I am utterly shocked at what I saw when I took a shovel and dug out a big chunk of one of the tubs. These tubs had 50 liters of perlite on the bottom and then 1.5 blocks of coco on top of that. A very light coco/perlite mix was sprinkled on top a little later. There is no evidence that the roots ever made it to the perlite. It is as if they hit the bottom of the coco and then simply stopped. I really don't know what to make of this.

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-this would explain a lot like the high ass ppm of the runoff and the buds not filling in fully very interesting stuff man great thread.
any issue with pests?
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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-this would explain a lot like the high ass ppm of the runoff and the buds not filling in fully very interesting stuff man great thread.
any issue with pests?
No, not really. A few gnats towards the end but that was about it. Yeah, the buds are pretty disappointing. They definitely smell good and are sticky but they are really loose and leafy. Almost embarrassing. Oh well, I guess those are the breaks sometimes. Just gotta keep trying different things.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Chapter 2 Weight update

The top colas came in at a total of 428 grams. Their RH is still in the high 60's so it's going to end up being less than that.
The popcorn has not been weighed but just eyeing it, I'm going to guess 2 to 3 ounces tops.

All in all, I am extremely disappointed.
 

DirtyNerd

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Chapter 2 Weight update

The top colas came in at a total of 428 grams. Their RH is still in the high 60's so it's going to end up being less than that.
The popcorn has not been weighed but just eyeing it, I'm going to guess 2 to 3 ounces tops.

All in all, I am extremely disappointed.
It was a great run bro you learned a lot over this past grow and it's only going to make the next one even better I hope that buds covers the cost of chapter two not a total win but also not a total lose your a very skilled grower and you make some insane ideas come to life it's a pleaser to watch and learn with you and I thank you for putting in the time to share with us all here can't wait for the next run its going to be epic
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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It was a great run bro you learned a lot over this past grow and it's only going to make the next one even better I hope that buds covers the cost of chapter two not a total win but also not a total lose your a very skilled grower and you make some insane ideas come to life it's a pleaser to watch and learn with you and I thank you for putting in the time to share with us all here can't wait for the next run its going to be epic
Thanks man...I'm not really that upset. I was hoping to recoup more money than I will but that's ok.
A note to anyone watching: 16 plants per square foot --> I don't suggest trying it.

My pieces came in today so I can do some dry fit assembly and make sure they are going to work. It's kind of hard to build a multi-leveled octagon (or partial octagon) without framing to support everything.
 

DirtyNerd

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Thanks man...I'm not really that upset. I was hoping to recoup more money than I will but that's ok.
A note to anyone watching: 16 plants per square foot --> I don't suggest trying it.

My pieces came in today so I can do some dry fit assembly and make sure they are going to work. It's kind of hard to build a multi-leveled octagon (or partial octagon) without framing to support everything.
What did you end up going with the 1" or the 3" did you have any luck finding the parts
 
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