12/12 before preflowers

wyteberrywidow said:

The only thing the size of light has to do with anything would be how much and big a plant would get. I wouldn't say it has to do with its stretch. I can use 1 cfl bulb and my plant can stretch when it starts to flower.

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You just contradicted yourself. If you don't relate the size of plant to how much it stretches, then wtf? There is also no way you will get the same vigor, growth, stretch using a CFL compared to a HID! Did you forget to drink your coffee?

To OP: Judging by that strains description and you using a 600W HID light, I would say you should see a fair bit of stretch yet! The description says 8-14 weeks(rofl)! That is quite the variance. I would lean towards the 14 if not more as it is supposed to be Sativa dominant.

Well let me be a little more clear.

The size of light does not matter on the stretch. Once flower is introduced it stretches naturally.
The size of light would matter in its yield.

Well seeing as I've finally learned how to get some photos onto my profile I can show you the plants. I only grow for myself so I only need to do 4 at a time

i definatly would have vegged a little longer but thats cool, they'll just take longer to show buds rather than a mature plant would.

The2TimEr said:

i definatly would have vegged a little longer but thats cool, they'll just take longer to show buds rather than a mature plant would.

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Yeah in an ideal world I would have left them a while longer too, but my supply is running low so I couldn't really wait. They may be making me wait now though eh. This is all down to my last crop going drastically wrong. Here's a pic of the last one:



These were super skunk too. What happened here was I'd topped them and they took a very long time to recover. They like my current grow were slow on showing preflowers, but I put this down to the topping. I don't want a repeat of this so this time around I've just tied the main stem down instead of chopping it off. My last few grows have been disastrous because instead of just doing what I have for the past 10 years I've been reading about different techniques and got carried away with it. I know what works for me but I thought I could improve on something that wasn't broke. After this current grow I'm going back to my old way, what I know works.

So this is 2 weeks of 12/12. I untied the main stems and they seem to be filling out a bit more but very slowly. Does anyone know why this would be? From what I can gather they've still got about another 4 weeks or so before they stop growing up and out, so hopefully they'll be nice and bushy by then. What do you think? Any comments or ideas?



Thanks.

It has a lot to do with strain but not all plants only stretch for 2 weeks. Some strains triple in size some don't. But the girls I have in flower now pretty much stretched and grew for about the first 5 weeks of flower. Up until the buds where getting nice form then they stopped stretching and the bud began filling out more along with all the popcorn sites that popped up. So in all my two bagseeds more than tripled size in flower one is a sativa dom in named strain and the other is a swiss cheese. So they can surprise you sometimes. I'm switching to scrog over the next grow if yours don't seem to stretch much maybe run netting over them and just pread your growth out to cover your lighted area. The plants may not get as big this go around but at least you will be supplying adequate light to all your bud sites so your popcorn can become dense nugs at least bringing your yeild up some. Hope this helps some.

Pon's gone lol

I used to only veg my plants for between 2 and 4 weeks, and up until my current grow I had never seen pre flowers before switching to 12/12. This grow I vegged some for 12 and 14 weeks and they had pre flowers on all the tops (I trained them in veg). Part of the reason for switching to longer veg was that I had some Kolossus which simply didn't stretch or bush much after being vegged for 4 weeks.

Hi bluegrassgrower. Yeah that helps. I always thought surely the plant doesn't do all it's vertical growth in the first two weeks of bloom as I've had growth way into flowering. Next time I might veg a little longer.

g00sEgg said:

Please don't go giving false information to people that are actually asking for advice. Do some research before you post.

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Michigan ??? i have fam in laws in Taylor.... grow sum fire too lol, evry1 up there grows

Here's what they look like 24 days into flowering. They've filled out a bit more:





This one shows how much space is left to fill (hopefully).



If I believe the description there's another 25 or so days left (7 week bloom), but that seems too short a time. So what do you all think? Will they continue to fill out a bit more or is that it?

Thanks.

lol they will continue to grow and fill-out through flowering. If you have at least 25 days left what makes you think they'd just stop growing? Looking good!

g00sEgg said:

lol they will continue to grow and fill-out through flowering. If you have at least 25 days left what makes you think they'd just stop growing? Looking good!

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I don't know how long is left, only they're described as 7 week flowering. From what I've read most strains go longer than what's said on the packet or am I wrong about that (?) I was just under the impression that the grow in veg, then stretch in the first bit of flowering and then growth stops and they only grow the buds thereafter?

Yeah they're looking a lot better aren't they. I'm glad about that I need as much as possible from these as it'll be a while until I do any more.

Oh...I thought you meant the buds filling out. Ummm....they might stretch a bit more but probably not much if at all. The buds should swell up nice in the next 3 weeks though. And yeah, usually you go a week or two longer than what the breeder packaging says.

Oh right, well I hope they yield well after putting this effort in. They're quite low on roots, nowhere near the amount I have had before. Don't know why that is though.

So this is how they look 4 weeks and 2 days into bloom. I should've done a diary. Maybe next time.



You may not be able to see them all by this pic but I've counted 48 tops in all which isn't bad. Would anybody take a guess at yield at this point? I reckon if I can get 1/4 oz on each I'd be doing good. What do you all think?

Thanks.

5 weeks, 3 days bloom









Is it too early to say when these will be done? 5 weeks in now, maybe they will only go 7 - 8 weeks? There's some yellowing but not sure if that's due to the light being a bit too close, nute burn, or age.

doing great bro! looks very similar to my current grow i have 4 smallish plants topped / fimmed also.

as your plants get older especially in mid to late flower, they will eat more and more, do your bloom foods have any nitrogen in them? they look pretty good for 5 weeks in man here are mine at 3 weeks flower.. i also had my lowest fans drop off due to me leaving it a bit late to ramp the feed up to full strength early on but touch wood it hasn't continued.

Hi, The2TimEr. Yours are looking good similar to mine but 2 weeks behind. Maybe mine are a bit slow then but it don't look like it. The feed I'm using is Growth Technology Ionic and their bloom does have a little nitrogen in it. I have some boost (P-K) that I've been adding to the tank occasionally. EC & pH have been fairly stable and the yellowing is on all four but just in one place directly under the lamp which is why I think it's that. The rest of the plants are fine and green. What are you growing in that pic?

Sounds like your feeding is bang on, i see what you mean about the top leaves having a yellow tint to them and also i see some minor brown spots there which could be mag / cal, as thats all your newest growth right there.
unless your light is super close like 10 inches or less away, then i doubt it would be that mate.
Someone else with better plant health / deficiancy knowledge would be better suited to tell you though.
anyway they look super for over 5 weeks and yes i would guess they are an 8 week strain.