100w 380-840nm chinese led

HI guys ive just recieved and installed a 100w led i bought from china thats supposedly full spectrum ranging from 380-840nm, it is stupidly bright for how small the led is so what do you guys think? and has anyone had any experience with these before?

Damn that is trippy lookin. You have a link for it so we can check out the full specs?

pedrovski, do you mean you added that big sucker in the middle?

I picked up a 75w version from vanq for only $33. I'm planning on pairing it with a vero18 3500K. I'm thinking that the vanq cob will be a nice complement to a vero/cree white cob.

Yeh its the big led in the middle the heatsink gets WAYY too hot if i have the 10w leds running aswell, temps were reaching like 34 degrees in my brow box and i payed an extra $20 for dhl shipping so cost me $55 but heres the link to what i bought
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100w-led-grow-chip-full-spectrum-integrated-grow-led-chip-cover-380nm-840nm-best-for-hydroponics/1479110118.html

pedrovski said:

Yeh its the big led in the middle the heatsink gets WAYY too hot if i have the 10w leds running aswell, temps were reaching like 34 degrees in my brow box and i payed an extra $20 for dhl shipping so cost me $55 but heres the link to what i bought
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100w-led-grow-chip-full-spectrum-integrated-grow-led-chip-cover-380nm-840nm-best-for-hydroponics/1479110118.html

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34 degrees is hot? Damn bro where do you live in the Arctic lol? I checked out your link and they show a much larger panel, looks similar to the Hans panel.

Oddjob said:

34 degrees is hot? Damn bro where do you live in the Arctic lol? I checked out your link and they show a much larger panel, looks similar to the Hans panel.

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thats celcius so thats like 93 degrees Fahrenheit and its the same led they use in these grow lights

pedrovski said:

thats celcius so thats like 93 degrees Fahrenheit and its the same led they use in these grow lights

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Ah my bad then. Cool another option for LED on the Vanq

What amperage are you running this at? I'd like to see how well this works.

You know what I'd like to see? Some kind of data that indicates how much light this thing makes. 100W (if we are to assume that the marketing is accurate) only means that the device is spinning your meter at the rate of 1Kw every ten hours. That number is meaningless as far as useful light. There's a huge difference between a manufacturer's top bin and lowest bin. And there's a huge difference between quality LED's and low-quality LED's. As far as we know these are low-quality, low bin LED's that should be melted down for scrap.

YES..... finally someone is trying the new "full spectrum" phosphor white LED, I also am trying this chip in my grow, I have a 100w version that cost me just over £30, heatsink is an arctic alpine 11 plus with 100w heat dissipation, keeps barely warm to the touch. Nice pink kind of light, I have 1 female seeds WWxBB under it at moment in veg, I'm hoping for some good buds from this as I've already seen what generic chinese warm white chips can do..

No sorry pal they are not, as far as we know we don't know anything truly really do we?, so let's not assume they are Low bin, low quality, try to research a bit more before you jump the gun mate, I have the 100w version and believe me mellodrama they perform very well under WwxBB. These are 45mil bridgelux chips, highest lumen bin and I know this as "independent" tests I have done show that it is "not" cheap shit only good for melting down for scrap. "Anchorman" who does independent tests in California has shown these are quality chips 45mil and high quality.. and don't know why you assume that "as far as we know this is low quality". Let's do some research before we take offense eh? And stop the mellodrama shall we?.

Lewismccage said:

No sorry pal they are not, as far as we know we don't know anything truly really do we?, so let's not assume they are Low bin, low quality, try to research a bit more before you jump the gun mate, I have the 100w version and believe me mellodrama they perform very well under WwxBB. These are 45mil bridgelux chips, highest lumen bin and I know this as "independent" tests I have done show that it is "not" cheap shit only good for melting down for scrap. "Anchorman" who does independent tests in California has shown these are quality chips 45mil and high quality.. and don't know why you assume that "as far as we know this is low quality". Let's do some research before we take offense eh? And stop the mellodrama shall we?.

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defensive much?


Do you work for the company?

Lewismccage -

Look, if you're happy with these then I apologize for making you angry.

Having said that, I go into full skeptic mode when visiting free-for-all websites like AliXpress. I mean, really, the English is so poor

1.The color is full cover 380nm-840nm ,make up the 1w and 3w can not provide the special wavelength (as the Trace elements for human bodyhuman body, indispensible) .
2.Full spectrum led could use only ,don't use with othe grow lamp ,that slove the problem which is previously LED grow lights been unable to act as the sole light source for the indoor garden .
3.Suit for plant all stage ,so slove the trouble change different grow lamp at different plant stage .
4.The integrated light source ,more evenly ,more intense,more stronger than single light ssource .

that sometimes I'm guessing what they're saying, but the fact is they can say whatever they want. The Better Business Burea ain't monitoring AliXpress.

I'm not an LED expert. When I go to a website like the one you linked I'm looking for clues like LED manufacturer, how many LED's, what's their maximum current and what are they actually being driven at, some benchmarks that might indicate efficacy; that sort of thing.

So maybe you can help me out.

Brand? The website says they're EpiLED. We know that there are lots of counterfeit Chinese Cree's and etc. so even if I bought one of these and it said EpiLED on the die I wouldn't really know. But you say above that they're Bridgelux. Which is it?

Binning? If these were highest bin, as you claim, I would think they would say so because that's a strong selling point. But I see no mention of binning whatsoever. And we loop back to the same questions of veracity - how would I know they're being truthful if they did?

How hard are they being driven? I can't tell. Can you? Since there's no exact description of the LED I can't look up the data sheet. The data sheet would give me some ideas about lm/W, spectrum, nominal vs. max current/voltage, etc.

I didn't say "I'm sure" these are sketchy LED's, I said "as far as we know" because I can't find anything on the website that gives me any confidence that they're not.

I don't know who Anchorman is. I'm not going to google him. Probably get Will Ferrell instead anyway. I doubt that one guy's word on this would dispel my skepticism.

If people can show great results I'll be happy for them. But the website is full of promises and virtually devoid of verifiable technical detail. That's a fact and that's why I'm skeptical.

LOL Having had many as bad or worse responses from mellod...

I fear he has sipped a bit too much A51 Kool-Aid. Not that they don't make a fine product, but basically they did what many here in DIY are doing, but without the expensive cover

EDIT: I didn't see lpw on OPs link, but their 50/100w 7 color chip offerings (at the very bottom) lpw is only 75.

Lewismccage said:

No sorry pal they are not, as far as we know we don't know anything truly really do we?, so let's not assume they are Low bin, low quality, try to research a bit more before you jump the gun mate, I have the 100w version and believe me mellodrama they perform very well under WwxBB. These are 45mil bridgelux chips, highest lumen bin and I know this as "independent" tests I have done show that it is "not" cheap shit only good for melting down for scrap. "Anchorman" who does independent tests in California has shown these are quality chips 45mil and high quality.. and don't know why you assume that "as far as we know this is low quality". Let's do some research before we take offense eh? And stop the mellodrama shall we?.

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True, very true, I have to concede some ground regarding my reaction there mate, apologies.. Bottom line you are right We and " I" don't know for real, especially as china has a history of unscrupulous production standards, marketing, advertising and is frequently over-zealous in its grandiose claims. Company's coming out of the mainland offten make such bold stamens/claims and not give a fuck if behind the scenes their products fall apart at our feet.. a previous grower who I met via advanced LED company stated their performance as good but even he couldn't garuntee they are what they say "highest lumen bin" "45mil".. Once again apologies for my reaction, and for giving away how much of an angry cunt I am....Best regards.. Lewis...

I Hear what your saying PetFlora, but it have to admit I can come on too strong sometimes, I get quite reactionary if I think scepticism is pre-disposed based on first impressions, if something don't look the part and/or people just don't trust a company or product co's they think it might be "fishy Chinese fantasy". Much coming out from china commands scepticism, but there are plenty of products also that perform well, having tried it I can say it does work, mainly the price though PetFlora sells itself £30+ free shipping for 100 actual watts driven up to 93-95w with power supply and CC/CV buck modules that cost almost nothing. As for the acid test, nice compact veg, buds are taking hold and about right for almost 4 weeks, the next 4-5 will be the decider though and I may find I might have to add 30w CFL or some globes like you have, heat is very low, also I was told measured lumen output of 7000-9000 is indicative of efficiency from a 100w 45mil LED chip size, but once again it's possible I could be wrong?.

Hey, lewis, no biggie.

I've spent several years on Linux forums getting called out by folks with way more knowledge. The problem with Linux is that there are always folks with way more knowledge.

My first post would seem antagonistic to someone who'd spent good money on those LED's. While I would probably attempt to steer a potential buyer away from them, I truly hope your light helps you produce some righteous grows!

As for you, Pet, I'm hurt that you'd suggest I'm biased simply because I bought an XGS. I don't even know how to use the damned thing!!