Enigma
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T-22 complete $360, 4x COBs ~200W, dimmable.
That's about as plug-n-play with bang for the buck as you'll get.
10,000 Watt 10 Plant 13 Gallon Rdwc [3d Model Incl. Inside Thread]
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TastyLED.com
T-22 complete $360, 4x COBs ~200W, dimmable.
That's about as plug-n-play with bang for the buck as you'll get.
GreenLogician
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Lucky Luke
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and what size area will that veg and flower? ahh a 2x2...not enough powerTastyLED.com
T-22 complete $360, 4x COBs ~200W, dimmable.
That's about as plug-n-play with bang for the buck as you'll get.
CCCmints
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All estimates, especially for yield, are extremely conservative. Not to mention, I've decided to start with 16 plants under 6582.87 watts of LED. I've heard CMH is pretty good. Regardless, HPS doesn't seem to be the king any longer. And what do you mean this setup is for bragging rights? Bragging about what? I haven't even done anything yet...I don't think I read this right, 10x 1kW HIDs with 10x plants @ 1.5 lb. each?
You could do that with 600W HIDs, and you'd save cooling costs with COBs.
IDK, technology is getting crazy. Even I didn't believe LEDs got to where they are now until I ran the numbers.
Lots of people say the 315W CMH is supposed to outperform the 600W HPS.
I think this setup is more for bragging rights than it is growing.
I wouldn't recommend a light that advertises the same PPFD in a 2'x2' space, 2'x4' space and a 4'x4' space. Buying an LED to replace HPS instead of DIY isn't really a good idea yet in my opinion...TastyLED.com
T-22 complete $360, 4x COBs ~200W, dimmable.
That's about as plug-n-play with bang for the buck as you'll get.
Enigma
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You should go back and read instead of browsing illustrations.
It might be a bit upfront, for the light and energy consumed you can do what you want to do with less.
But that wouldn't be brag worthy.
CCCmints
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Yeah, you caught me. I did exactly that lol. But really its because I'm not interested in that light or anything like it honestly. I will say that illustration is a bit misleading though, would you agree?
Enigma
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It would be enough for a lb a plant, far less than the 1kW from every aspect.
Idk, 1kW per plant is odd, that footprint could cover four plants with ease.
It would be cool to see that many in one place, it would be sad to see them bring less than 2 lb per lamp though.
ttystikk
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An important consideration is plant count.
Fewer, bigger plants tend to be a bit less efficient in terms of grams per watt- but they can help the grower stay within his plant count limits.
Enigma
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No.
It clearly depicts one lamp, two lamps and four lamps depending on square footage and shape.
It isn't a bad option for plug-n-play, a lb per lamp should be easy-peasy, running costs are lower, they can be driven harder than the driver that comes in it.
Do what you feels right, if you have problems then post here for help.
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Enigma
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Understood.
Idk, I've seen a member pull an lb with a 400W, I've seen one and a half with a 600W.
It just confuses me to see a kW per plant hoping for one and a half lbs.
Now I've got the whole COB bug thing going and the numbers sound about right.
Lucky Luke
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im in a 4 x4. id need two of those and to me its not worth the purchase price ATM for that. For someone growing one plant maybe.
Im illegal anyway but as long as i stay at or under 6 or so plants its not to bad a penalty.
I dont mind the heat a HID gives in winter (saves running a heater) but would like to save some $$ in summer. But not at that entry price.
Im illegal anyway but as long as i stay at or under 6 or so plants its not to bad a penalty.
I dont mind the heat a HID gives in winter (saves running a heater) but would like to save some $$ in summer. But not at that entry price.
Enigma
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Yea, I'm testing two COBs instead of four because of that. If they perform well I'll purchase the setup, if that does well then I'll find space for another one.
This is all new to me, but the numbers are there.
I have to see for myself.
Lucky Luke
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I just dont understand why someone hasnt jumped in and filled the market for people like me yet.
Here is a COB that will replace a 600w HID. its $250 and sell a million of them..
Here is a COB that will replace a 600w HID. its $250 and sell a million of them..
Enigma
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There are plenty of companies that make magnetic and electronic ballasts for 1kW. Tons of bulb choices, just about every kind of reflector imaginable and you can find them just about anywhere.
You must've edited that last part.
You'll have to wait.
I waited a decade before buying an LED lamp.
You must've edited that last part.
You'll have to wait.
I waited a decade before buying an LED lamp.
CCCmints
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Because there's not a lot of profit left after you build a fixture that really does that well. I can see in the future people not even building their own fixtures...Simply because commercial units will then be the optimal economical choice.
Lucky Luke
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and people like me are waiting for them....
ttystikk
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Cost. Many manufacturers, including here on RIU, are working hard to bring the cost of the unit down while maintaining their superior performance.
I predict you'll be able to DIY the light you desire at the price point you mentioned in the next year or two. It will take a few more years for it to appear on the shelf at the local hydro shop, but it's coming.
Enigma
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I waited a decade for the price to fall and the efficiency to rise to a point where it would be worth my efforts.
atriumfall1
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No. Theres only so much light a plant can absorb its called science. When a plant gets too much light there is something called bleach which is a fancy way to say the plant is dying from light. Its basic anatomy. If you have one plant with two gavitas and you train the single plant it will not get 8lbs of premium quality bud. Its just not possible. Indoor the most ive ever seen was a little over three lbs of say og and 5lbs of indica. These babies were also vegged for three months and they were given ample light with tip top nutrients. Light increases the need for nutrition. So when you factor the cost of electricity this is just dumb as i get six harvests a year. To your three. I also get huge nugs and smell with loaded resins. Its not about light or fancy ass equipment. Its about technique