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Ya I am pretty psyched about the light, haven't felt like this since I bought my house lol, Jeff answered every question above and beyond and explained the led binning process even which is pretty cool! SG

Well after talking to Jeff at A51 all day he has assured me the AF 600 for a very special price since they dont have many left is the way to go and I feel that way too so 600w hps out af 600 IN! SG

Ya this is the email I got a little bit ago when I asked about the possible 2013 AF-600. There's no plans for a newer version of the AF600, once the existing models are sold out, they will be forever unavailable. The lifetime guarantee covers, for the 1st 3 years, free replacement parts w/...

How is the coverage on those? Any experience? SG

Ya I was actually thinking of just going with a AF 600 but the apollos are just way less money and seem like a better bargain, I really like that spectrum though seems really balanced.I always thought apche or w/e was just WAY over priced never knew they were that good!or I could jus go apollo...

That sounds like too much red no? 6k is mostly white with blue right? Or please correct me lol Also hyroot I am trying to stay as low on wattage with as much as I can get, the woman already kills me for like 900 total reason I was hoping these 2 12s would do the job but you dont think they...

Sounds good I am interested in how long it will take you in total to get the lights! SG

Ya I bet, the HPS would basically be gone after I get the LED's along with some other fans that eat power to cool it to make up for the power difference. I mean it cant get worse than the HPS by gaining 260 watts lol, I just bet quality will just be amazing since I get great quality now it will...

I give up lol, cant do anything right today. 600w HPS is killing in my 5x5 I jus wanna move to LED but just dunno if I will see that difference in 860 watts of LED vs the 600 HPS and make the higher wattage worth it = / SG

Ya I am special today, derping around lol... 5ft^2 then the 860 watts of a 12's i get 34.5w but at say 4.5ft^2 with the 860 I get 42.2 so that is pretty solid covers for what 95% of a 5x5 wattage wise at least. What do you think of that spectrum above? SG

How you do the math with the wattage above I just want to make sure I am doing it right and dont mislead myself! Looks liek I will prob have to broaden the spectrum a little... Edit found this..... 1 730 6 660 4 630 1 460 1 435 1 2700k 1 12k SG

My quote above a couple post is for this light spectrum.....8x660nm, 3x630nm, 2x460nm, 1x410nm, 1x12000K. I light it because it offers some variety but heavy on flower also how many plants you gonna do Pop? Big what did you think of those figures in the pictures? EDIT for above: I am starting...

Here I did two conversions to be save so nothing could be changed, let me know if I am reading this correctly.....notice the large difference in some area for the 12 and the 10. Further away the 12 trumps then closer the 10 kills, kind of interesting.....Also remember I would be getting 2 of...

Well I got a quote from SanLing! The prices are 2x Apollo 8 ---- 2 x $228 = $456 2x Apollo 10 ---- 2 x $279 = $558 2x Apollo 12 ---- 2 x $328 = $656 The prices does not include the shipping cost Also I received a large excel sheet showing me certain...

lol, dunno if I can resist for that long... SG

i mean i have a 5x5 tent with a 4x4 core, id like to say that 2 10's would get it done however maybe i would have to go to 2x 12's, not rly sure... Dawg says I should go 4 x 8's but that I dunno might be a little crazy, I wish I could hear from some of the people that have them actually in hand...

ah so they thought that layout was better I gotcha still waiting for my quote......crossing my fingers SG

I went to Grener's website last night looking at light movers and they have a new Light Induction section, they generally carry trusted/mainstream products as anyone knows who has ever been to the site; they even have a huge LED section now from a ton of different vendors however I noticed that...

Sent them an email, and why the 1 730 vs another 660 or something? jw... XD SG

Looking like rock candy!