Simple reasons to question your current authority

Harrekin

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DOOD!!! It happened in Die Hard so it must be true!!!!


I am not saying that our government would not mislead us.

I am saying that they would not blow up a billion dollars in real estate and display complete incompetence to start a friggin war that they could have easily done by blowing up something much smaller or just killing a few diplomats.
Maybe these Illuminati Piggy Banker Joos ain't as smart as we give them credit for...
 

NLXSK1

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Maybe these Illuminati Piggy Banker Joos ain't as smart as we give them credit for...
So on one hand they are smart enough to blow up the biggest building in NY in a controlled demolition and fool millions of people but on the other had they are dumb as a sack of potatoes?
 

Dr Kynes

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So on one hand they are smart enough to blow up the biggest building in NY in a controlled demolition and fool millions of people but on the other had they are dumb as a sack of potatoes?
shhhhh... it was nano thermate.

an "explosive" so powerful you only need a few grams to bring down any building no matter how large...

but you have to hit the tiny bomb with a jumbo jet to make it go off....

:rolleyes:

the truth is (as apposed to the Troof), Thermate is just Thermite with powdered sulphur mixed in. as a result it "burns" about 20% hotter, but it is much more prone to self-ignition, and it sometimes just fizzles if the mix is not uniform (such as when it settles after sitting for YEARS in the janitor's closet on the 88th floor...)

and niether Thermite, nor the much less commonly used Thermate come in any variety which can be described as "nano" since they are merely a gross mixture of powdered iron oxide (rust) powdered aliminium, and a little bit of powdered magnesium as a starter (plus some sulphur powder for Thermate), and they are ignited by ordinary fire, but are dispersed if you crash a jet into them since they are fine friable powders.

the cllaims of finding "Thermite/Thermate residue" (which is little balls of melted iron and steel from the reaction) are based on the entirely expected result of the building's contents (which consisted of ample iron aluminium sulphur and magnesium) in the conflagration which resulted from the impact of 2 jumbo jets and their kerosine fuel...

also, the buildings contained NUMEROUS electrical transformers on various floors (as all high rises do), and anyone who has ever seen it happen knows that when exposed to fire (or lightning, or a car crash) an electrical transformer explodes violently.

but yeah it was all a plot by the US government, the jews, and i assume, the 7 foot tall lizard people from the 8th dimension who's dimension runs on the power of children's screams (and they are also jews...)

see david icke's collected works for more information on the 8th dimension aliens and their Monsters Inc. style power source...
 

RyanTheRhino

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An yet 1000lb of thermite cant even cut the roof of a car


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Antidisestablishmentarian

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shhhhh... it was nano thermate.

an "explosive" so powerful you only need a few grams to bring down any building no matter how large...

but you have to hit the tiny bomb with a jumbo jet to make it go off....

:rolleyes:

the truth is (as apposed to the Troof), Thermate is just Thermite with powdered sulphur mixed in. as a result it "burns" about 20% hotter, but it is much more prone to self-ignition, and it sometimes just fizzles if the mix is not uniform (such as when it settles after sitting for YEARS in the janitor's closet on the 88th floor...)

and niether Thermite, nor the much less commonly used Thermate come in any variety which can be described as "nano" since they are merely a gross mixture of powdered iron oxide (rust) powdered aliminium, and a little bit of powdered magnesium as a starter (plus some sulphur powder for Thermate), and they are ignited by ordinary fire, but are dispersed if you crash a jet into them since they are fine friable powders.

the cllaims of finding "Thermite/Thermate residue" (which is little balls of melted iron and steel from the reaction) are based on the entirely expected result of the building's contents (which consisted of ample iron aluminium sulphur and magnesium) in the conflagration which resulted from the impact of 2 jumbo jets and their kerosine fuel...

also, the buildings contained NUMEROUS electrical transformers on various floors (as all high rises do), and anyone who has ever seen it happen knows that when exposed to fire (or lightning, or a car crash) an electrical transformer explodes violently.

but yeah it was all a plot by the US government, the jews, and i assume, the 7 foot tall lizard people from the 8th dimension who's dimension runs on the power of children's screams (and they are also jews...)

see david icke's collected works for more information on the 8th dimension aliens and their Monsters Inc. style power source...
I agree except i do have a question regarding the friability of a powder.

Its already powder, so what does it break down to?
 

Dr Kynes

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I agree except i do have a question regarding the friability of a powder.

Its already powder, so what does it break down to?
friability also refers to the ability of the powder to become airbourne. like the chaff in a grain silo, chalk dust or loose asbestos fibres in degraded insulation.

or am i using that word wrong?

in a liquid the term would be aerosolization, see now im wondering...
 

Dr Kynes

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An yet 1000lb of thermite cant even cut the roof of a car
but thats not really how the stuff is used.

i wish i could find the old Mister Wizard episode where he made thermite in his lab, and had raw molten metal poring out the bottom of a flowerpot.
 

Mister Sister

Active Member
I never said anything about how it was done or by whom. You guys sure have a lot of words to put in my mouth. Dimensions and lizards?? I'm not following you.

All I'm saying is that all 3 buildings fell straight down. Because of a plane, and a fire and some debris. That doesn't make any sense in my view, and leads me to question the 'troof', as you so eloquently put it.

Joos? Who mentioned that?
 

RyanTheRhino

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but thats not really how the stuff is used.

i wish i could find the old Mister Wizard episode where he made thermite in his lab, and had raw molten metal poring out the bottom of a flowerpot.

this is true, and considering they mixed it themselves in a dirty concrete mixer it probably wasn't very pure.

Have you seen thermite welding. They clamp a mold around the the parts to be welded & place a cauldron of metal pellets on top of the molds. Light the thermite to melt the pellets and it pours into the mold to cast the pieces together
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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friability also refers to the ability of the powder to become airbourne. like the chaff in a grain silo, chalk dust or loose asbestos fibres in degraded insulation.

or am i using that word wrong?

in a liquid the term would be aerosolization, see now im wondering...
Everything in my world(asbestos) says friable is when something can be broken up into powder or dust by hand pressure or barely any pressure at all.

You can probably get away with calling a powder friable, I'm just not sure how it would break down more. Apply hand pressure to it and the powder disperses....

I think it's a good area of discussion for my next refresher though. You really have me pondering this lol.
 

fb360

Active Member
Bullshit

When you heat up metal it becomes stronger and more rigid

Quit your crazy talk
We all know they were imploded at the behest of the Joos
Actually, metal DOES become stronger and more rigid/brittle when you heat it up to the molecular restructure point, and then quench it accordingly. It's called "heat treating" and it's used everyday.

But that is besides the point.

Point being, Jet fuel and other fuel sources, combined with a 400k LB flying projectile moving at 300+ MPH, can definitely bring down a large torque arm in the form of a skyscraper.
 

NLXSK1

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I never said anything about how it was done or by whom. You guys sure have a lot of words to put in my mouth. Dimensions and lizards?? I'm not following you.

All I'm saying is that all 3 buildings fell straight down. Because of a plane, and a fire and some debris. That doesn't make any sense in my view, and leads me to question the 'troof', as you so eloquently put it.

Joos? Who mentioned that?
It was a suspended deck of cards. What made it fall was the failure of supports that were missing or already weakened at the location the plane hit. Once a floor pancaked on another floor the stress load due to inertia was simply much more than the lower floor could support. So that floor collapsed on the lower floor and so-on...

If the force had been sideways, the tower might have toppled in another direction but it happened twice in the exact same way.

Just because it doesnt make sense do you does not mean it is some massive government conspiracy...
 

Harrekin

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It was a suspended deck of cards. What made it fall was the failure of supports that were missing or already weakened at the location the plane hit. Once a floor pancaked on another floor the stress load due to inertia was simply much more than the lower floor could support. So that floor collapsed on the lower floor and so-on...

If the force had been sideways, the tower might have toppled in another direction but it happened twice in the exact same way.

Just because it doesnt make sense do you does not mean it is some massive government conspiracy...
I still think it was the Joos.

Definitely wasn't the radical Islamists ...
 

Mister Sister

Active Member
Agree to disagree. Other than that, I still don't trust any entity who is willing to wage war upon the earth and it's inhabitants. If they are willing to do it to 'them' then they have already done it to 'us'.
 

Dr Kynes

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Everything in my world(asbestos) says friable is when something can be broken up into powder or dust by hand pressure or barely any pressure at all.

You can probably get away with calling a powder friable, I'm just not sure how it would break down more. Apply hand pressure to it and the powder disperses....

I think it's a good area of discussion for my next refresher though. You really have me pondering this lol.
youre in asbestos removal, so whats the term for when the loose asbestos dandruff from degrading insulation or popcorn ceilings gets disturbed and becomes airborne?

thats what im talkin about in the thermite/thermate issue. the shit just doesnt work if it's not contained since even a mild breeze disperses the lighter components leaving just a pile of useless rust.

like when somebody sneezes on your rail of coke. powder everywhere.
 

Dr Kynes

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I never said anything about how it was done or by whom. You guys sure have a lot of words to put in my mouth. Dimensions and lizards?? I'm not following you.

All I'm saying is that all 3 buildings fell straight down. Because of a plane, and a fire and some debris. That doesn't make any sense in my view, and leads me to question the 'troof', as you so eloquently put it.

Joos? Who mentioned that?
lighten up bro, we're just taking the piss.

you triggered the 9/11 Troofer intellectual trap card, so the hilarity just cascades down on everyone in the area.

it's the same effect you get when some dippledink starts talking about how the holocaust never happened, or the whole thing was a put up job as a part of aa long term plot to get the UN (which didnt even exist at the time) to give the jews the land of historical israel.

rather like the claims by the japanese government thaat the Rape Of Nanking was just the unfortunate result of the "Poor Discipline" of the Japanese Imperial Army...

 

RyanTheRhino

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Actually, metal DOES become stronger and more rigid/brittle when you heat it up to the molecular restructure point, and then quench it accordingly. It's called "heat treating" and it's used everyday.

But that is besides the point.

Point being, Jet fuel and other fuel sources, combined with a 400k LB flying projectile moving at 300+ MPH, can definitely bring down a large torque arm in the form of a skyscraper.

I actually said this in one of the posts I deleted but I figure people would troll the shit out of it. The word you are looking for annealing. Where the chemistry of the metal becomes fluid enough for the grains to recrystallize releasing internal stress due to deformations

While the end product is more ductile & tougher (not necessarily stronger), when it is still hot the strength is diminished.

Works out pretty good for internal combustion engines. even though its not hot enough to do much.
 

ChesusRice

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I actually said this in one of the posts I deleted but I figure people would troll the shit out of it. The word you are looking for annealing. Where the chemistry of the metal becomes fluid enough for the grains to recrystallize releasing internal stress due to deformations

While the end product is more ductile & tougher (not necessarily stronger), when it is still hot the strength is diminished.

Works out pretty good for internal combustion engines. even though its not hot enough to do much.
Wrong.

Annealing makes the metal weaker
You are looking for the word Hardening. WHich is the exact opposite of annealing. Annealing is done to make metal more workable (ductility)

SORRY

I should learn to read better
You're right
 

RyanTheRhino

Well-Known Member
?? IM confused

Hardening only raises the yield strength. How much load it can withstand before deformation/bending. You wouldn't really want structural steel to be too "hard" if the supports bend a little it will still be able to hold some load. But if its to brittle it will just snap and your screwed.

Hardness is good for say knife blades or machine tools for increasing fatigue resistance & where deformation will cause dullness. ever use a drill press and the bit snaps imagine that in a building
 

ChesusRice

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I didnt read your whole post before I replied
annealing makes metal easier to machine but makes it weaker. I'm a CNC machinist, for hard to machine materials we have them stress releaved and annealed. Then after we are done machining the parts. They are heat treated again. Then ground to final shape for critical dimensions. Not necessarily hardened.
 
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