Simple reasons to question your current authority

Mister Sister

Mister Sister

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I'm not asking you to take these things I say without question. The following is merely a seed, to plant a vine of critical thinking about the people who we choose to rule over us. These aren't strung together in any sort of fashion, they're just things that I've personally discovered. Just some reasons that lead me to not believe in our leadership, at all.





  • Both contenders (Bush, Kerry) in the 2004 election not only graduated from the same college, but were both members of the same secret society, aptly-named "The Skull & Bones Society".


  • President Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm not sure how waging war = peace but apparently it's good enough to win the most prestigious peace award known to mankind.




  • Jet fuel and paper are not hot enough to melt steel. Especially not hot enough to make WTC buildings fall exactly straight down; that is what most people call 'planned demolition'.


  • Also, the WTC 7 building was apparently the first steel-framed high-rise building in the known universe to have collapsed because of fire alone. No planes hit this one. How much TV coverage did you see about this building?


  • Why does our currency come from a private bank? And is it possible to pay back interest on trillions of dollars, or does that just seem like a ploy to keep you attached to that system indefinitely?

Question your authorities. If they are/were the answer, why are we still at war? Why are people still starving? Why are we still destroying the earth without regard? Why do we train soldiers to kill instead of in matters of diplomacy?

They are not the answer, you are. Keep sleeping and you won't have a home to wake up to. Change yourself. Change the world.

"Everybody says they want change, but nobody wants to do what it takes to make it better. If you don't change yourself, you have no right to complain" Troy Trombone Shorty

We don't have to live this way. You don't have to work your entire life at a job you hate. We live on a marvelous planet, abundance is natural here. Why aren't we experiencing it?
 
deprave

deprave

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its because of government which promotes corruption and coercive force from the day we are born, its a vicious cycle, many parents even indoctrinate their children unknowingly because they have been trained that threats and violence is normal. IMO the vast majority are completely morally corrupt and its because of government which can never be morally or ethically correct, its inherently evil.
 
delvite

delvite

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Mister Sister said:
I'm not asking you to take these things I say without question. The following is merely a seed, to plant a vine of critical thinking about the people who we choose to rule over us. These aren't strung together in any sort of fashion, they're just things that I've personally discovered. Just some reasons that lead me to not believe in our leadership, at all.





  • Both contenders (Bush, Kerry) in the 2004 election not only graduated from the same college, but were both members of the same secret society, aptly-named "The Skull & Bones Society".


  • President Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm not sure how waging war = peace but apparently it's good enough to win the most prestigious peace award known to mankind.




  • Jet fuel and paper are not hot enough to melt steel. Especially not hot enough to make WTC buildings fall exactly straight down; that is what most people call 'planned demolition'.


  • Also, the WTC 7 building was apparently the first steel-framed high-rise building in the known universe to have collapsed because of fire alone. No planes hit this one. How much TV coverage did you see about this building?


  • Why does our currency come from a private bank? And is it possible to pay back interest on trillions of dollars, or does that just seem like a ploy to keep you attached to that system indefinitely?

Question your authorities. If they are/were the answer, why are we still at war? Why are people still starving? Why are we still destroying the earth without regard? Why do we train soldiers to kill instead of in matters of diplomacy?

They are not the answer, you are. Keep sleeping and you won't have a home to wake up to. Change yourself. Change the world.

"Everybody says they want change, but nobody wants to do what it takes to make it better. If you don't change yourself, you have no right to complain" Troy Trombone Shorty

We don't have to live this way. You don't have to work your entire life at a job you hate. We live on a marvelous planet, abundance is natural here. Why aren't we experiencing it?
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....................................................now go deeper into the rabbit hole ;)
 
Mister Sister

Mister Sister

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I went down that hole. I would recommend my brothers and sisters stay away from it. It is endless and yet contains nothing of value.

Respect life, co-operate, and live with moral integrity.
 
CAone

CAone

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Good stuff MS, nice to see other people who are awake and see these things happening around us.
 
Doer

Doer

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DonPepe said:
Would we then train diplomats to kill?... If our soldiers were busy debating and stuff... ya know.

Some interesting things to think about tho.
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Clausewitz "War is the continuation of Politik (diplomacy) by other means"
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Mister Sister said:
I'm not asking you to take these things I say without question. The following is merely a seed, to plant a vine of critical thinking about the people who we choose to rule over us. These aren't strung together in any sort of fashion, they're just things that I've personally discovered. Just some reasons that lead me to not believe in our leadership, at all.


Paper will lay still and let you put anything on it.


  • Both contenders (Bush, Kerry) in the 2004 election not only graduated from the same college, but were both members of the same secret society, aptly-named "The Skull & Bones Society".
Big Deal fratboys join frats. thats not news nor is it sinister.


  • President Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm not sure how waging war = peace but apparently it's good enough to win the most prestigious peace award known to mankind.
Are you intimating that European Socialists might want to support a European Socialist President?


And The Three Stooges "Predicted" that i would hit my brother with a frying pan when i was 6. Moe Howard Must Be Psychic.


  • Jet fuel and paper are not hot enough to melt steel. Especially not hot enough to make WTC buildings fall exactly straight down; that is what most people call 'planned demolition'.
Lies. just plain diesel burning in open air without a building's structure acting as a refactory made a freeway bridge collapse when it's steel supports softened and failed, and these supports were MUCH more substantial than the WTC trusses.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/30collapse.html?_r=0


  • Also, the WTC 7 building was apparently the first steel-framed high-rise building in the known universe to have collapsed because of fire alone. No planes hit this one. How much TV coverage did you see about this building?
NOPE, the giant fucking hole ripped in the side by falling rubble and flaming debris kinda helped a LOT.


  • Why does our currency come from a private bank?
Because the congress is stupid and gave that power to the money trust as part of the federal reserve act, and they havent had the balls to take that power back yet.



  • And is it possible to pay back interest on trillions of dollars, or does that just seem like a ploy to keep you attached to that system indefinitely?
Of Course Not, but if you stop charging shit and going into debt you can pay it off and free yourself by stopping the stupid spending.


Question your authorities. If they are/were the answer, why are we still at war?
wars are the discourse of kings. we have wars because we a re ruled rather than sovereign.

Why are people still starving?
when food becomes so abundant that growing it is no longer profitable enough to pay your bills, you stop growing food. learn 2 supply and demand.

Why are we still destroying the earth without regard?
are we? i hadnt noticed what with there being MORE forest land in america now than in 1900.

Why do we train soldiers to kill instead of in matters of diplomacy?
soldiers who dont know how to fight make shitty fucking soldiers. dont be stupid.

They are not the answer, you are. Keep sleeping and you won't have a home to wake up to. Change yourself. Change the world.

"Everybody says they want change, but nobody wants to do what it takes to make it better. If you don't change yourself, you have no right to complain" Troy Trombone Shorty

We don't have to live this way. You don't have to work your entire life at a job you hate. We live on a marvelous planet, abundance is natural here. Why aren't we experiencing it?
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whats your point? should we all move to walden pond? you know it's a mini mall now right?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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    • et fuel and paper are not hot enough to melt steel. Especially not hot enough to make WTC buildings fall exactly straight down; that is what most people call 'planned demolition'.




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If you had ever watched a show on how they demolish buildings you would be embarassed by your questioning... It takes days - months to wire a building to explode along with the demolition of major parts of the support structure.

Yet somehow, they managed to blow up two towers of massive size with NOBODY noticing anything happening?

Seriously?

I mean.... Seriously???

The rest of the issues presented are just as flimsy...
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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NLXSK1 said:
If you had ever watched a show on how they demolish buildings you would be embarassed by your questioning... It takes days - months to wire a building to explode along with the demolition of major parts of the support structure.

Yet somehow, they managed to blow up two towers of massive size with NOBODY noticing anything happening?

Seriously?

I mean.... Seriously???

The rest of the issues presented are just as flimsy...
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Nuttier than a Marathon bar...
 
Mister Sister

Mister Sister

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You're right about Alex Jones.

Ron Paul is no better.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" The ron paul revolution is where people go to think that they are making a difference. What they (myself included for a couple years) don't see is that you can'y fix a system that is corrupt from the start.

On the twin tower building wiring remark - the towers were evacuated several times in the weeks prior to the 'attack'. http://empirestrikesblack.com/2011/07/twin-towers-evacuated-several-times-in-weeks-leading-up-to-911/

Also, just imagine, if this were in the works for years before hand, it would be pretty simple to do this. If someone were to come into the building and plant explosives, do you think they wore a shirt that said "I'm putting bombs in here!!" while they worked?

I'm not saying go to walden pond, I'm saying:


Stop accepting the destruction of our species and our earth.

In the name of "progress" we are completely stripping ourselves of our home. If you can't see that, then you can't see it.

The trolls will troll, and the people who are trying to create a healthier world will create a healthier world.
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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Mister Sister said:
  • Also, the WTC 7 building was apparently the first steel-framed high-rise building in the known universe to have collapsed because of fire alone. No planes hit this one. How much TV coverage did you see about this building?
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I suggest you go to the library find the engineering hand books for properties of metals & alloys .

Find the type of steel used in the WTC, and look up how temperature effects its yield strength.



Or



you can just take what someone said on the internet as fact , that works too
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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ill do it for you

A36, which has a yield strength of 36ksi << weak . decent steel is around 50ksi


A36 maintains
ultimate strength up to 650°F. 58,000 psi:
700°F, 54,000 psi
750°F; 45,000 psi
800°F. 37,000 psi

 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Mister Sister said:
You're right about Alex Jones.

Ron Paul is no better.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" The ron paul revolution is where people go to think that they are making a difference. What they (myself included for a couple years) don't see is that you can'y fix a system that is corrupt from the start.

On the twin tower building wiring remark - the towers were evacuated several times in the weeks prior to the 'attack'. http://empirestrikesblack.com/2011/07/twin-towers-evacuated-several-times-in-weeks-leading-up-to-911/

Also, just imagine, if this were in the works for years before hand, it would be pretty simple to do this. If someone were to come into the building and plant explosives, do you think they wore a shirt that said "I'm putting bombs in here!!" while they worked?

I'm not saying go to walden pond, I'm saying:


Stop accepting the destruction of our species and our earth.

In the name of "progress" we are completely stripping ourselves of our home. If you can't see that, then you can't see it.

The trolls will troll, and the people who are trying to create a healthier world will create a healthier world.
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wait, so youre positing that the WTC 1 & 2 towers were wired for demolition, and this happened months or even YEARS before hand, and nobody noticed holes being drilled in concrete support columns, or primacord being wrapped around steel beams and trusses, and nobody asked "Yo Tony, whats with all this loose wiring and Detcord all over the place? yaknowattimsayin?" and nobody complained about the noise, concrete dust, and the TONS of explosives being trucked in and stored (i presume in the janitor's closet and fire stairs...) in the building?

NOBODY complained? REALLY?

when i was rental manager people complained when i mowed the lawn at 2 pm, they whinged about the noise when i fixed the neighboring unit's roof, they bitched about when i started the sprinklers, and when i changed the time other assholes bitchjed about the NEW time, they complained about dogshit in the grass, they complained about me cleaning up the dogshit ("it's gross and unsightly, you should do that at night so we dont have to see it..." really, a bitch said that. no kidding.) and not a single one of those office tower poopdicks got all butthurt over anything... for YEARS???
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Dr Kynes said:
wait, so youre positing that the WTC 1 & 2 towers were wired for demolition, and this happened months or even YEARS before hand, and nobody noticed holes being drilled in concrete support columns, or primacord being wrapped around steel beams and trusses, and nobody asked "Yo Tony, whats with all this loose wiring and Detcord all over the place? yaknowattimsayin?" and nobody complained about the noise, concrete dust, and the TONS of explosives being trucked in and stored (i presume in the janitor's closet and fire stairs...) in the building?

NOBODY complained? REALLY?

when i was rental manager people complained when i mowed the lawn at 2 pm, they whinged about the noise when i fixed the neighboring unit's roof, they bitched about when i started the sprinklers, and when i changed the time other assholes bitchjed about the NEW time, they complained about dogshit in the grass, they complained about me cleaning up the dogshit ("it's gross and unsightly, you should do that at night so we dont have to see it..." really, a bitch said that. no kidding.) and not a single one of those office tower poopdicks got all butthurt over anything... for YEARS???
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DOOD!!! It happened in Die Hard so it must be true!!!!


I am not saying that our government would not mislead us.

I am saying that they would not blow up a billion dollars in real estate and display complete incompetence to start a friggin war that they could have easily done by blowing up something much smaller or just killing a few diplomats.
 
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