Thanks Obama!

abandonconflict

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Giving credit where it is due.

I prefer the Republican stance over the Democratic regarding state's rights in the case of cannabis legalization. I am quite surprised that Obama receives so little credit for the fact that the federal government hasn't involved itself with the legalization of cannabis for recreational use in Colorado, Washington, Alaska and the District of Columbia. Several states, including California legalized medicinal use in the 90's but the federal government never changed it's stance until Obama directed his dawgs to lay off of state compliant patients and growers.

I really hope that this continues or better yet, that cannabis is rescheduled under the controlled substances act so that we won't have to worry if a GOP administration takes office. The remarkable thing is that it is a big government Democrat keeping the federal goons from raiding our gardens and we have every reason to worry that a GOP administration would reverse the policy even though state's rights is supposed to be a republican thing. This is evident in recent history.

Remember, federal law has not changed regarding cannabis and with as much effort as it takes to flick a booger, the executive branch could crack down.
 

londonfog

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I think President Obama would have been the best chance for all of us to have had marijuana legalized in this entire country. Do to all the push back he received on EVERYTHING he could not risk his capital on trying to make marijuana legal.
 

abandonconflict

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I think President Obama would have been the best chance for all of us to have had marijuana legalized in this entire country. Do to all the push back he received on EVERYTHING he could not risk his capital on trying to make marijuana legal.
I give him credit, but I think that's still a poor excuse. I could criticize him for a lot of other stuff and for not rescheduling but progress is still progress.
 

OddBall1st

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Obama made his attempts, and even threatened California`s cut of the Budget. He had to. Realizing that further attempts will turn the People against Democrats, just go as far as needed and fall back, evaluate, move if or when a time comes up later.

He let it happen and as expected, the first few years show promise, it`s after a few years that the overflow from the Great Pot Rush will start to bother surrounding States. That`s happening in a small way now, but as time goes on,...so does it.

If not for being a stoner earlier in life,...He may have acted differently.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Obama made his attempts, and even threatened California`s cut of the Budget. He had to. Realizing that further attempts will turn the People against Democrats, just go as far as needed and fall back, evaluate, move if or when a time comes up later.

He let it happen and as expected, the first few years show promise, it`s after a few years that the overflow from the Great Pot Rush will start to bother surrounding States. That`s happening in a small way now, but as time goes on,...so does it.

If not for being a stoner earlier in life,...He may have acted differently.
So you're giving him some credit for this progress or are you saying it happens despite his efforts to stifle it? You're unclear, kind of a convoluted post.
 

TBoneJack

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Giving credit where it is due.

I prefer the Republican stance over the Democratic regarding state's rights in the case of cannabis legalization. I am quite surprised that Obama receives so little credit for the fact that the federal government hasn't involved itself with the legalization of cannabis for recreational use in Colorado, Washington, Alaska and the District of Columbia. Several states, including California legalized medicinal use in the 90's but the federal government never changed it's stance until Obama directed his dawgs to lay off of state compliant patients and growers.

I really hope that this continues or better yet, that cannabis is rescheduled under the controlled substances act so that we won't have to worry if a GOP administration takes office. The remarkable thing is that it is a big government Democrat keeping the federal goons from raiding our gardens and we have every reason to worry that a GOP administration would reverse the policy even though state's rights is supposed to be a republican thing. This is evident in recent history.

Remember, federal law has not changed regarding cannabis and with as much effort as it takes to flick a booger, the executive branch could crack down.
Obama deserves credit for his help in preventing the feds from cracking down on state legalization.

I'm afraid a GOP prez might undo all the progress made in MJ legalization.

The only sure way is to reclassify the drug and change federal law. But that might take a dem prez, and dem-controlled House, and a dem-controlled Senate. And (IMHO), that's too much control for either party to have.

The GOP is slowly making some progress in accepting the inevitability of total MJ legalization. But some of those bastards (Chris Christie) have already said they completely oppose legalization.
 

desert dude

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You guys are worshiping a false idol. It is the change in opinion of the American people that is driving a rational solution to the drug war. Obama's administration conducted thousands of raids of cannabis operations. He cares about one thing: Obama.

Politicians have been dragged into relaxing the drug war, kicking and screaming the whole way.

I support state's rights because that is the fucking law of the land, and it is a good law. The federal government has usurped the role of the states in contradiction to the constitution, and that change mostly rests on the unconstitutional interpretation of the commerce clause by SCOTUS. The constitution is a simple document that lays out a limited, but important, role for the federal government, it doesn't "grant" rights, it simply recognizes preexisting natural rights. The drug war is unconstitutional, hence illegal. Much of what the federal government is illegal. Unfortunately, a majority of the American people are willing to fabricate the rope with which they are hanged.
 

althor

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You guys are worshiping a false idol. It is the change in opinion of the American people that is driving a rational solution to the drug war. Obama's administration conducted thousands of raids of cannabis operations. He cares about one thing: Obama.

Politicians have been dragged into relaxing the drug war, kicking and screaming the whole way.

I support state's rights because that is the fucking law of the land, and it is a good law. The federal government has usurped the role of the states in contradiction to the constitution, and that change mostly rests on the unconstitutional interpretation of the commerce clause by SCOTUS. The constitution is a simple document that lays out a limited, but important, role for the federal government, it doesn't "grant" rights, it simply recognizes preexisting natural rights. The drug war is unconstitutional, hence illegal. Much of what the federal government is illegal. Unfortunately, a majority of the American people are willing to fabricate the rope with which they are hanged.
If the majority of the people who vote them into office were against it, so will the politicians be against it.
It isnt a stand, politicians dont have stands, they have "what do I need to do to get votes again next time" or "so my party gets votes at next election". Politicians dont give a shit.
 

UncleBuck

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You guys are worshiping a false idol. It is the change in opinion of the American people that is driving a rational solution to the drug war. Obama's administration conducted thousands of raids of cannabis operations. He cares about one thing: Obama.

Politicians have been dragged into relaxing the drug war, kicking and screaming the whole way.

I support state's rights because that is the fucking law of the land, and it is a good law. The federal government has usurped the role of the states in contradiction to the constitution, and that change mostly rests on the unconstitutional interpretation of the commerce clause by SCOTUS. The constitution is a simple document that lays out a limited, but important, role for the federal government, it doesn't "grant" rights, it simply recognizes preexisting natural rights. The drug war is unconstitutional, hence illegal. Much of what the federal government is illegal. Unfortunately, a majority of the American people are willing to fabricate the rope with which they are hanged.
what a stupid idiot you are. read the supremacy clause and get back to me.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
You guys are worshiping a false idol. It is the change in opinion of the American people that is driving a rational solution to the drug war. Obama's administration conducted thousands of raids of cannabis operations. He cares about one thing: Obama.

Politicians have been dragged into relaxing the drug war, kicking and screaming the whole way.

I support state's rights because that is the fucking law of the land, and it is a good law. The federal government has usurped the role of the states in contradiction to the constitution, and that change mostly rests on the unconstitutional interpretation of the commerce clause by SCOTUS. The constitution is a simple document that lays out a limited, but important, role for the federal government, it doesn't "grant" rights, it simply recognizes preexisting natural rights. The drug war is unconstitutional, hence illegal. Much of what the federal government is illegal. Unfortunately, a majority of the American people are willing to fabricate the rope with which they are hanged.
Nobody is worshipping. Just giving due credit. He could crack down and the next administration might.
 
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