a note of caution

Back pain sucks. Heat is a godsend for me. Massage and stretching help a lot too.
Do you know what is wrong with your back? There's a bunch of options depending on what it is. If there's an inflammation component then I would highly suggest a burst of steroids. Medrol is fucking awesome when you need it. And then get thee to a physical therapist and follow their directions. Much more useful than doctors for back problems generally.

circumnavigate all that..multi-dab..
its all i can do,lol

I tried some thin mint girl scout cookie. Frostiest bud i have ever seen. Nope, all it did is make me very stupid.

Lots of you guys get this? Shit.

I kind of like that it makes me a little stupid. I get annoyed at ignorance easily (even though I'm a dumbass). . It helps me not get as annoyed!

i figure,if im gonna be in pain,ill be high at least..lol..same way with insomnia..if im gonna be awake and pissed off,im gonna be high also

Advil & heating pad set on as hot as it will go or till I feel ill. Edibles and smoking help me feel less ill.
I had 16 Epidurals with the last one causing Surprise temp. paralysis. I had had enough.

rory420420 said:

i figure,if im gonna be in pain,ill be high at least..lol..same way with insomnia..if im gonna be awake and pissed off,im gonna be high also

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While i understand the notion, to me its like, well i cant sleeo, its two in the morning, may as well eat an eight of mushrooms.

Don't feel alone, I've had bad nerve damage in my left leg caused from a back injury in 1980. Twelve yrs ago I re injured it, had 2 surgeries, injections, everything the docs could think of. I've been on opiates since the surgeries, tried almost everything out there. For the past year I've been prescribed 30mg MS Contin twice a day and Norco 10/325 for break through pain, I always try to keep my dosage as low as possible. Two weeks ago I decided that I was sick and tried of dealing with the pain doctors, the side effects from the meds, and being dependant on something, so I decided to stop ALL meds. I started tapering last Thurs and as of today I'm down to 15mg MS twice a a day and zero Norcos so far. If anyone has any good ways to taper off extended release morphine please let me know. I have plenty of different opiates, benzos, etc. Hang in there Canndo, the pain is a bitch but it will get better. I've found that Tens Devices work well, but you do have to keep it on, pain comes back in about 30 min after taking it off. GL

canndo said:

While i understand the notion, to me its like, well i cant sleeo, its two in the morning, may as well eat an eight of mushrooms.

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i do the same thing as well with different substances...

BWG707 said:

Don't feel alone, I've had bad nerve damage in my left leg caused from a back injury in 1980. Twelve yrs ago I re injured it, had 2 surgeries, injections, everything the docs could think of. I've been on opiates since the surgeries, tried almost everything out there. For the past year I've been prescribed 30mg MS Contin twice a day and Norco 10/325 for break through pain, I always try to keep my dosage as low as possible. Two weeks ago I decided that I was sick and tried of dealing with the pain doctors, the side effects from the meds, and being dependant on something, so I decided to stop ALL meds. I started tapering last Thurs and as of today I'm down to 15mg MS twice a a day and zero Norcos so far. If anyone has any good ways to taper off extended release morphine please let me know. I have plenty of different opiates, benzos, etc. Hang in there Canndo, the pain is a bitch but it will get better. I've found that Tens Devices work well, but you do have to keep it on, pain comes back in about 30 min after taking it off. GL

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Thanks, a lot. I get people telling me now, "dont feel bad" and then they tell me their stories which are always way worse than mine. Rather than comming away thinking i have it good, i think on and on about how poorly THEY must feel.

My knowing others are miserable stopped making me feel better. No, drugs are for fun and illumination, not for endless pain.

But thanks for the support. Some times i worry that my body hurt itself so i would feed it more opiates.

TENS are awesome as well.
Have you tried edibles instead of smoking? They're better for pain for me.

Edibles do work for pain, I'm looking for help with withdrawal symptoms or possibly a good way to use other meds to taper.

rory420420 said:

i do the same thing as well with different substances...

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Yeah, im awake at two, may as well snort a few mg of Oxymorphone and curl up under the covers reading riu.

MrEDuck said:

TENS are awesome as well.
Have you tried edibles instead of smoking? They're better for pain for me.

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Oh fuck no duck. Im just not a thc guy. I trip on edibles, start thinking on how ive wasted my life, who i screwed over, how i should work harder, that i should send my daughter more money, how i should go change my mothers tombstone because her rank isnt right and they spelled her name wrong. Stuff like that.

Eating has never been pleasant. Ill take the physical pain over the spiritual anguish.

I thought about it though.

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View attachment 3284689 Edibles do work for pain, I'm looking for help with withdrawal symptoms or possibly a good way to use other meds to taper.

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Well, im on the other side, what worked after a few days was the testosterone. I bumped my dose to double and it really seemed to help. U understand that long time users can permanently inhibit natural testosterone priduction, maybe why they seem to get unmotivated. But i am NOT the expert here.

Im afraid i may have to lay down my mantle of the opiophile who never got snagged. And i was so proud too.

i didnt see a fucking thing canndo...

Back pain is such a bitch. Some great comments here on how to "deal" with it so to speak. I've had it for a decade or so, the joys of every vertebrae fucked up in my neck and 4 in my lower back.

I think the worse part about it is I don't know what it feels like not to be in pain, to feel constantly under siege in my own skin. Only temporary escapism offered by distractions of one kind or another. It's annoying, unrelenting, basically maddening. Between the muscle spasms, the nerve pain down my limbs, and the sharp pain in my back, it's hard to concentrate on much of anything. I am fortunate as I could be worse, I do know I'll need surgery at one point, it's more of when.

What I do that helps, and others have mentioned:
Heat pad, laying on one now. In fact I've burned myself on it and didn't even notice so be careful with those
Sauna
Walking, even while discomforting is better than laying down or sitting, I hate sitting
Hot Shower
TENS unit, yes I love this too
and of course various drugs

What I've done that has been fruitless:
Physical therapy, not gonna fix vertebraes that are collapsing and have extended wear
Spinal Injections - worthless. Only good part of that was a good dose of fetynal and some versa prior to having the giant ass needle shoved in my back
Anti inflammatory drugs - useless and I just end up with an ulcer eventually

Steroid packs have been somewhat helpful, been a while since I did a cycle of those.

If anyone is interested I did read The Pain Chronicles. Was a good read about the authors struggle with chronic pain and explored the physical, mental and historical aspects of pain.

To all those in pain, may you find some relief even if it's simply temporary

are you prescribed the pain killers? i remember when i was in high school one of my friends moms sold me ocs and blues that shit was off the richter.

vro said:

are you prescribed the pain killers? i remember when i was in high school one of my friends moms sold me ocs and blues that shit was off the richter.

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Yep but nothing really good as far as opiates go, codeine and occasion hydrocodeine. I have a "good" doctor who doesn't want to see me addicted. She even said if I were older she'd have no problems giving me stronger. A statement I found odd, as apparently being younger means the pain is more bearable? Nonetheless I respect her and if I wanted a doctor feel good I could get one. I told her I'd rather be dependent than in pain

Been flat on my back, legs up on a heating pad for days. Most times i cant hold the phone up. It all gets better till i take a shit. Sitting in the can KILLS me, add that to twisting to wipe my ass and i am down for hours again.

This is bullshit. But no opiates, head is clear till the robaxin kicks in and then i am peroetually sleepy.

Muscle relaxants without tolerance do that. Hell that's a milder one. I'd have figured you would have a stash of Somas around though.