jbcCT
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I've seen a few photos on the internet, videos as well of that neem oil. People showing examples of it drying out the foilage. Don't think I'd want that stuff on my plants.
Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics
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jbcCT
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Does it impact the foliage in any way that you can tell? That was my only concern with this stuff only cause it's my time using it.
too larry
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If you mix it right it does no harm in veg. The smell is shit for flowers. And it will cause problems with flowering too, or so I have heard.
jbcCT
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Dam I'm not going to finish until October. I'm jealous. I can't even really run any sativa doms, just too dam short up here.....
too larry
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I tested it on my tomatoes first. No signs of adverse effects there so I sprayed my flowering plants. I only get out to the bush once a week, but they looked fine when I went back a week later.
too larry
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The Ass Cheese f1's were not like that. But the tall pheno of the f2's was budding in late May. It and the Ass Cheese Blues started about the same time. Both had to come down due to bud rot, but were over 8 weeks when I took them.
jbcCT
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That's exactly what I was afraid of. I did a fine mist, properly diluted. Hopefully I didn't fuck up. Never had a problem in veg. Was under the impression two treatments tops, one at the start of flower, one on developing bud. Am I off here?
jbcCT
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Ain't that something. Did my tomatoes first as a test, I lost a lot of those last year too though. Worms have no issue getting right through the skin.
too larry
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I've heard you can spray until week 2 of flower. That is about as far as I've taken it. Well, not exactly true. I have bag seed tester strains named Peach and Rotten Stinking Bastard. Both were wrapped up in bud worms, so I did spray later into flower. I did effect taste some, but I washed it good before drying.
I ended up losing most of those plants anyway.
jbcCT
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I appreciate the feedback. Like I said I dont like spraying anything on them. Maybe I'll just leave it at a one time spray.
I'm less is more guy on everything. Less water, least amount of nutrients. I can always do more of something if I need to and this approach has never failed. I can even get them out of rain fairly quickly.
too larry
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I call some of my patches Darwin Dope. It's survival of the dankest. lol When it rains, I just carry enough water to deliver food. I don't use a lot of added ferts either. I try to make my soil mix hot enough to get me through to flower with only small amounts of 11-2-1 veg food, then I scratch in some 2-10-10.
I never did any IPM before I ran the bag seed testers. I had always grown local strains, which are sativa leaners. They never had bud rot or worm issues. But the BST's were big and sticky buds, and they were loaded with worms. Now I spray neem once a week in veg.
My main problem is my length of day. I'm in NW Florida, and my longest day is 14 hours 7 minutes. When my buddies send me strains used to longer light hours {in the northern legal states}, they all flower in the summertime, when it rains everyday.
too larry
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That is why I'm holding off until I see worms. If the neem did it's work, maybe I can get through without it.
too larry
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Thanks, I will look into that.
Chef420
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There’s a product called Dr. Zymes. The wonderful thing about this one is that it’s citric acid based and completely non toxic. You can vary the concentrations for different purposes.
http://doctorzymes.com/mo/index.html
Ive also used method 1 PPS with some success in flower for PM. Seems to work well as an IPM in veg for a multitude of issues.
http://doctorzymes.com/mo/index.html
Ive also used method 1 PPS with some success in flower for PM. Seems to work well as an IPM in veg for a multitude of issues.
