Fems or Regs

Originally Posted by Trousers

Who is "they"?
I would like to read something about that.

Google it.

It is called fetal dna I believe. It is something that happens in pregnancy that attaches to their brains and never goes away.
Now I am not saying that it verifies or proves anything. All I am saying is, when it comes to things like this there is much to learn and many things undiscovered as of yet. So I am "unconvinced" at this point. It is still a point of discussion of people who claim to have gotten males from verified feminized seeds. Whether it is true or not has been debated back and forth ad naseum. I am undecided.

Originally Posted by althor

Google it.

It is called fetal dna I believe. It is something that happens in pregnancy that attaches to their brains and never goes away.
Now I am not saying that it verifies or proves anything. All I am saying is, when it comes to things like this there is much to learn and many things undiscovered as of yet. So I am "unconvinced" at this point. It is still a point of discussion of people who claim to have gotten males from verified feminized seeds. Whether it is true or not has been debated back and forth ad naseum. I am undecided.

So you spread rumors?

I did google it and couldn't find anything, that is why I asked.
I just googled it again with fetal dna and can't find anything that would be relevant.

Who is claiming to have gotten males from "verified feminized seeds"?
I would imagine they were either not really feminized seeds or stressed so much they showed male flowers.

Originally Posted by Trousers

So you spread rumors?

I did google it and couldn't find anything, that is why I asked.
I just googled it again with fetal dna and can't find anything that would be relevant.

Who is claiming to have gotten males from "verified feminized seeds"?
I would imagine they were either not really feminized seeds or stressed so much they showed male flowers.

Hold on a second jackass, me saying I am UNCONVINCED makes me spreading rumors?
I dont know how better I can clarify my opinion for someone who is trying to act so scientific.

They are still making discoveries to this very day in human genetics, yet somehow you think you already know everything there is to know about MJ genetics, especially something like a herm. Well, I bow to your knowledge and wisdom, you know all.


http://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/201...ins-revisited/

So I dont have to bother coming back here to respond to your next set of "points"

Yes I realize this is women who are pregnant and have had male children. Yet this is something that they are just now discovering. Who is to say how a hermie effects things? Certainly not you.
So for now I remain unconvinced that a Y chromosome cant be passed even if it is very rare.

there is male and female in all of us..or males wouldnt have estrogen or a mammary track..

its called balance and when you distrupt it, you distrupt natural life cycle

a hermie is an intersex, which can utilize both seed and carrier. its a male female.

there are also diseases (that weve created) that create super males and super females. they grow tall with small heads and dont always do well

im not saying youve created the hermie, but youre only feeding it. most plants have been fucked so hard that they are now asxeual, like tomatos. we in fact did breed that into their dna, which was my first and only point.

Disadvantages

• The disadvantages of self-pollination come from a lack of variation that allows no adaptation to the changing environment or potential pathogen attack. Self-pollination can lead to inbreeding depression, or the reduced health of the species, due to the breeding of related specimens. This is why many flowers that could potentially self-pollinate have a built-in mechanism to avoid it, or make it second choice at best.

Read more: Types of Flowers That Self Pollinate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5457479_ty...#ixzz2GPethbyV

Originally Posted by althor

Hold on a second jackass, me saying I am UNCONVINCED makes me spreading rumors?
I dont know how better I can clarify my opinion for someone who is trying to act so scientific.

No reason to be rude.
You made an odd claim based on something I could not find online. What I did find had little to do with the topic.

Originally Posted by althor

They are still making discoveries to this very day in human genetics, yet somehow you think you already know everything there is to know about MJ genetics, especially something like a herm. Well, I bow to your knowledge and wisdom, you know all.

You must not read very well. I have just been trying to get people to back up their claims about feminized seeds. Why does that bother you? Did you not get an iphone for Christmas?

Originally Posted by althor

http://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/201...ins-revisited/

So I dont have to bother coming back here to respond to your next set of "points"

What does that have to do with reproduction and especially sex determination?

Originally Posted by althor

Yes I realize this is women who are pregnant and have had male children. Yet this is something that they are just now discovering.

That has nothing to do with reproduction. Thanks?

Originally Posted by althor

Who is to say how a hermie effects things? Certainly not you.

You do not really understand what a "hermie" is. I have purchased and grown feminized seeds. I have produced thousands of feminized seeds. My friends and I have grown hundreds of plants from those seeds. 100% were female. 0% were hermaphrodite. 0% were male.
I think that allows me to talk about feminized seeds.

What is your excuse? It is great you are unconvinced and want to share that. Maybe back up your opinion with something?

Originally Posted by althor

So for now I remain unconvinced that a Y chromosome cant be passed even if it is very rare.

That is great. Can you come up with anything to back up your opinion? You never bothered to answer my question about who is getting male seeds from "verified feminized seeds."

If we are talking about properly made feminized seeds from stable marijuana varieties then there just isn't a Y chromosome in there. You realize plants do not have brains and do not give birth, right? There is no fetal dna in plants.

marijuana is a diploid (there are some exceptions to this). That means it has two chromosomes. A female will have XX and a male will have XY. If you take a plant that has a set of XX and use its built in mechanism to produce male flowers, where doe the Y chromosome come from? The plant did not have it to begin with. This has been covered. You have me unconvinced that you know what you are talking about.

I am not denying that scientific discoveries are made every day, but until someone can come up with something better, I will stick with Mendel.

If you would like to explain to me how a Y chromosome can appear out of thin air, go for it. You can even call me a jackass while you are trying to explain your odd opinion.

Originally Posted by bmeat

there is male and female in all of us..or males wouldnt have estrogen or a mammary track..

its called balance and when you distrupt it, you distrupt natural life cycle

What are you talking about? What do mean by "distrupt natural life cycle"?
You are just making up more bullshit lies because you can not back up your garbage opinions with anything.

You do not understand hermaphroditism, yet you continue to talk about it. It is natural and normal unlike you.

Originally Posted by bmeat

a hermie is an intersex, which can utilize both seed and carrier. its a male female.

We have covered this you idiot. You still do not understand it.

Originally Posted by bmeat

there are also diseases (that weve created) that create super males and super females.

We are talking about feminized seeds moron. You are a disease.

Originally Posted by bmeat

they grow tall with small heads and dont always do well

That explains a lot. Maybe you should buy a tiny hat.

Originally Posted by bmeat

im not saying youve created the hermie, but youre only feeding it.

what in the wide, wide world of sports are you talking about?
You should try reading your posts out loud before hitting submit. Maybe read them to the other patients in the sun room during recreation time.

Originally Posted by bmeat

most plants have been fucked so hard that they are now asxeual, like tomatos. we in fact did breed that into their dna, which was my first and only point.

You made numerous points and I think you were wrong on 99.99% of them.
This has nothing to do with feminized seeds.
You didn't know what you were talking about then and you still do not. It is sad, but funny.

Originally Posted by bmeat

Disadvantages

Originally Posted by bmeat

• The disadvantages of self-pollination come from a lack of variation that allows no adaptation to the changing environment or potential pathogen attack. Self-pollination can lead to inbreeding depression, or the reduced health of the species, due to the breeding of related specimens. This is why many flowers that could potentially self-pollinate have a built-in mechanism to avoid it, or make it second choice at best.

Read more: Types of Flowers That Self Pollinate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5457479_ty...#ixzz2GPethbyV

Did you actually read that? You post articles that do not back up your point. Hermaphroditism is natural and normal in cannabis.
Do you know what successive means? Do you know what can means? That article does not mention cannabis at all.

You didn't post the part about the advantages of self pollination.

If i make feminized seeds from two different seeds, that is not self pollination.

Keep posting.