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Medical Marijuana forums; Hey all, im HighFlyBy , and im here to give you as much information on this new product I got ...
NEW Herbalaire H2.1 Full Review
Hey all, im HighFlyBy, and im here to give you as much information on this new product I got my hands on the other day.
The item in question is the new Herbalaire h2.1 with new stock pump included (as of 01/01/2010). This item has been out for several years, and in the past has been compared to high end vapo's like the Volcano, despite its $250 price.
Just a little history...In the past I have had a volcano(classic), SSV, a cheap hotbox from ebay, and a Vapir handheld vape. Out of the lot, the volcano was the one that lasted, and it eventually broke after 4 years of amazing service. I have used an herbalaire in the past and was pretty impressed by the efficiency of the device, but I did have two problems with the device.
1. The Stock Pump - Man this thing wasn't my cup of tea on the old herbalaire. It did the job, but filled bags in 3-5 minutes, which frankly was too long for me.
2. Bags - These things are not very big, nor made that well. They seemed to break at the seems after a while, but then again, my storing techniques were poor.
Well, lets get to this new device, and the changes herbalaire ltd have made to it. I noticed this month that they changed the stock pump as of January 2010, so I jumped on this device. At $250, and being compared to the volcano, i just had to buy it and see if it was really worth the cheese, and to see if it had improved over the old one.
Let me say when this thing arrived the box was SMALL! Opening it is quite exciting, despite its incredibly small size, which I quite like. To put it in perspective for you, the entire box this thing came in, with parts and all is about the size of a volcano unit itself
In the box they include the following parts:
1. Herbalaire Unit
2. Teflon mouthpeice and 2 teflon straw attachments for the bags
3. Pump (no fans here guys, just like an aquarium pump)
6. 5 bags and clamps to make your own
7. Little metal spike, they call it a cleaning tool
8. Crucible (bowl)
Well, hooking it up, everything looks cool, you get to use it as a whip style vape, or a bag fill system. When turning the unit on, you will see a tri-colored LED light that will let you know whats going on with the temperature of your device. Green means the device is heating up, and not at the right temp. Red means the unit has gotten too hot, or is at too high of a heat setting. the light will turn amber when the temperature set is reached, and my temp of choice is 375 degrees. The device heated up in about 2 and a half minutes, and I loaded the crucible(bowl) with about .5 of some herbs. I attached the bag and turned the pump on. The first thing out of my mouth was, This pump is fantastic! Immediately after turning on the pump, thick vapor started filling the bag, at a very impressive rate. about 2 minutes later, the bag was completely full of thick vapor.
Taking off the bag, I noticed the mouthpiece to be quite hot, but I gave it 5 seconds, and put my lips on it, and took a big hit, and it wasn't hot enough to bother me, but I think that is going to depend on the user, because it is quite warm.
The hits off this thing are AMAZING! We ended up filling two bags with the .5 grams of herb, and were blazed enough to take a break for quite a while. After emptying the crucible, we discovered the herbs we stuck in came out quite brown, and no burns on it, which is pretty cool. What I did read in the instructions (found out the hard way first) is that with this device, you DO NOT need to break up your herbs before using this device. My unit spit a little of my grinded bud in the first bag, but when we filled the second bag, it wasn't a problem.
Well guys, its sad to report that after the unit had been off for an hour since its last use, we turned it on to start vaping again. After about 10 minutes, i noticed the light on the unit was still green, which means it hasn't heated up yet. Well, long story short, My unit broke. I contacted Herblaire immediately, and reached a rep from their company in Canada. After explaining my problem to the gentleman, he asked me some questions and said hes extremely surprised this happened, and couldn't stop apologizing. after some questions, he determined my unit had in fact broken somehow, and ordered me a new unit immediately. The guy from herbalaire said since the new unit started shipping in January, this is the first reported break, which is pretty good considering they sold 20,000 units in January. he felt really bad the unit died on me the first day, but did everything in his power to make me happy, which did keep me satisfied
This unit does come with a 3 year warranty, just in case anything like this does happen, and if it does, be rest assured the HerbalAire customer service is AMAZING! A++++++++++
I will have to postpone this review until then, but the good news is I ordered the "high output pump" and tri-bag fill system to add to my review. So the next addition to this will be me testing the stock pump vs high output pump on 1 bag, and 3 bags.
I will also show everyone how to make HUGE bags for less than .99 a bag
Also just wanted to mention, Up to this point, I still believe the herbalaire is one of the best vapes Ive used, despite mine breaking so soon, but I will make a full and final decision once my new one arrives
I'm open for comments and requests.
To find out more information on the Herbalaire h2.1 or to order yours, visit http://herbalaire.com/tri.htm
Last edited by highflyby; 02-20-2010 at 08:10 PM.
Reason: poor grammer of course ;)
Update - GREAT NEWS
ALRIGHT, well I called herbalaire today to find out if they had any idea where my unit was, because the unit still hasent arrived. He said he would do some investigating and give me a call back, which he did in about 5 minutes. Apparently there was a mix up and candapost had not seen the express request on the package and sent it regular mail, which put my package at my door around march 2nd, or latest march 8th. Anyway, hebrlaire corrected the problem and upgraded the shipping . I really have to say herbalaire stepped up to the plate, and they have RIDICULOUSLY AMAZING customer service.
I should have the unit tomorrow or Monday....new update coming soon....if anyone has any requests for pictures or tests or comparisons they want me to do on this vaporizer unit, let me know now so I can include it in the initial review.
Last edited by highflyby; 02-26-2010 at 07:26 PM.
Alright guys, well the unit arrived on Saturday, and DAMN this thing has delayed this review for a few days. First off, I'm just going to go over the new Items I got, as well mention a few features and info I wanted to mention. I also wanted to mention this review will be a new style of review, a "perpetual" review if you will. I will constantly update it with new pictures and tests if requested. Lets get to business...
Warm Up Time:
The start up time for my HerbalAire unit is under 2.5 minutes, every time. Cool down time is about 4 minutes. Also, the HerbalAire is equipped with an Automatic Shut-off feature. The unit will shutdown and blink green 30 minutes from the last time the dial is adjusted. This is a great feature for the forgetful folk.
The New Goodies:
(besides the new unit of course)
1. High Output Pump
2. Tri-Bag Teflon bag piece
3. Extra Bags and screens
Pumps - I was really intrigued by this "high output pump" as I opened it. Its all shiny and metal, a nice piece of eye candy compared to the standard pump. The first thing I did, was compare the standard pump VS the high output pump. I use two different bags, one being the standard bag(ill call h.a. bag) they include with the vaporizer. The other bag I made out of Reynolds Oven Turkey Bags. the following tests are a comparison between the two pumps, and how quick they fill single bags, and and second test using the tri-bag setup.
Standard Pump - 1:28 (H.A. Bag)
3:26 (Oven Bag)
High Output Pump - 0:30(H.A. Bag) WOW!
So, the high output pump has cut the times down a lot. Just for those who are disappointed about the extra cost of the high output pump, please keep in mind, the standard pump now included with herbalaires are 3X faster than before.
To be honest, at 3.5 minutes for the big bag, its really fantastic. I get around 8-12 big rips from the oven bag, compared to 2-5 with the herbalaire bags. It all depends on how big a rip you take So even with the small bags, a minute and half fill up time is great.
I was a little skeptical of this at first, but I was definatly interested, and thought it would be put this vaporizer into the category of "party vapes". Im only going to include the times of the tri bag system using the H.A. bags, unless someone really wants to know how long it will take for the turkey bags
Standard Pump - 4:54 SWEET JESUS it took a long time. But you know, come to think of it, I probably would be entertained for 5 minutes since I am partying
High Output Pump - Well, this is mind blowing. This pump filled all 3 bags in 59 SECONDS. Thats right. 00:59. Wow, what an improvement, this pump is simply awesome, and definatly worth every penny.
The skinny - For single bag use, the standard pump is best, it provides the thickest, best vapor possible. When using the tri-bag setup, aka party mode, the high output pump is the only way to go.
This is going to be my shortest chapter. This is a cool function, and in past reviews, I read how people preferred the whip over the bag, and im going to have to disagree. I can see me hardly ever using the whip function. I just don't have a problem waiting a few minutes for a bag to fill up
The warranty is 3years. Now that's on EVERYTHING on the vape, not just the heating element, like on the V-tower extreme.
Also, after speaking with Herbalaire, they told me anyone can order this unit from them, anywhere in the world, and they will ship it to them for FREE. Thats right, everyone in the WORLD gets this unit for $249 hipped to your door. Not trying to sound like a salesman, but that's a damn good deal
This is one of the best vaporizers I have ever used. The efficiency of this unit is mind blowing. I would suggest this unit to anyone I know. For its $250 price tag, it is simply the best thing you can get if your looking for a quality vaporizer. I give this unit a 4.5 out of 5 stars.
Like I said before, this is a Perpetual review, meaning I will constantly update it, and test out new things with the vape, and do any other tests people would like tried out. (Such as hash vaping, nug vs grinded herb, and much more)
If there is anything you would like to see tried out, or any other pictures of the unit you would like, please comment and let me know.
Remember to throw some rep my way, and please comment below if you found this review helpful.
Last edited by highflyby; 03-03-2010 at 09:50 PM.
+rep I can't wait to own one myself!
Just wanted to include some vapor shots. Including a pic of it filling up, and the final results. Let me know what you guys think of these milk white bags.
edit: LEAK! photo 3.....i spy a leak! Damn that bag.....thats what I get for shitty storage :] Time to spend $2 more on 2 more bags.
Last edited by highflyby; 03-03-2010 at 11:30 PM.
Last edited by Dr High; 03-03-2010 at 11:54 PM.
that bag appears to be full of smoke and not vapor. can you show me a picture of your duff (the stuff you pull out of the bowl/chamber after you have used it)
Originally Posted by highflyby
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Originally Posted by Sneezy
Good update to the review HFB.
Agree with above however.. If that's how you're filling your bags then your not optimizing your effeciency, in so much as you won't absorb all of the cannabinoids from that vapour as it is so "thick" and it will be wasted similar to smoking it. Run it through cooler and do twice as many bags.. It may take longer, but it will make your bud go longer, the vapour less harsh, and give you a much fresher flavour. If that was just an abnormal bag then no worries lol
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