Subcool ranting about Jim Fowler....

budwich

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I caught that, Sub sounds pretty pissed about the situation. Seems as the state needs to figure out a way to distribute seeds
 
The state is working on it... I actually wrote prototype language for the rules that's in front of lawyers and legislators. So, here's hoping we get some rules written for 1296 at some point in the very near future.

Otherwise, there's no problem really selling seeds, because they're classified as incidentals and not medicine. You can by law only sell medicine to your own patients but there is nothing stating you can not sell seeds, roots, stalks & stems to any qualifying patient. You would just need to abide by Maine's seed statutes and have a license and follow the labeling guidelines.
 

cerberus

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man that guy is such a tool..

regardless of any of the facts, just watching him fiddle for music, and be all thug, man what a tool..

"this is how he acts when subcool calls him"

talking in third person..

on the flip side;

I would love to see seeds available at canna events, wether its canna expo or harry's farm, or anywhere else. The rules in this state are pretty grey, and grey areas almost never really help honest people.. :/
 

ink the world

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I dont think he's a tool at all. The man was super pissed, as I would have been. If Jim spoke to my wife like that he'd be pulling a size 14 boot out of his ass. I'm no "thug" just a man with a spine. Would you let someone treat your wife like that?

Sub has done more for the community in a week than most of us do in a lifetime.

No offense any time you start a statement w/ "regardless of the facts" it isn't going to be very fruitful
 

cerberus

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no he has not.

first regardless to the fact's is becasue now i have only heard subtool's side, so untill i here jim's side its speculation and one sided crap.

second, that guy hasn't done shit for the community except make money off it, selling seeds for 100 bucks a 10 pack!? you can get SFS, immortal, GGG for half that; giving out a receipe thats not that good, later to SELL it in bags at stores.. selling cloths.. I don't knock the guy for being a business man but a phalanthropist he is not. He does have a nack for pollen chicking, no one denies him that..

sub's just a business guy trying to make money, jim is just a business guy trying to make money.. my BET (not fact) they are both dinks, and it was just two dinks rubbing each other the wrong way.. Maybe this Jim dude said that but i doubt it.. i doubt some promotions guy is going to call a clients wife a "twat".. I would have to hear jim's side..

"This is the morons responce to subcool calling" - thats is a tool talking in third person about how another person should bowd down to him (or subcool as he reffers to himself..)
 

ink the world

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Maybe you should read more about Sub... All procedes from the School of Dank go to a childhood Autism charity.
TGA also gives away seeds for FREE to patients.

Sorry man, you're off base. If you're going to insult the man, be a man about it and be straight. Backhanded insults like "pollen chucker" are a joke and detract from any serious conversation.

You may not like me or what I have to say, but at least I come out and say what I mean. Im too long in
the tooth for playing word games and insinuations.
 

cerberus

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i don't see how what i said is backhanded..

the dude chucks pollen.

the dude sells gear for way over priced (not worked gear f2's and multi pheno breeds)

school of dank is a charity that he can actually right off.. i don't need/want/ or even care about the details but we alll know what a tax shelter is and since mmj has none we all know the need to build a secondary one to insulate profit margins..

the dude talks in third fucking person

The dude was reading all the details off the screen while he was ranting, he didn't even care enought to learn the facts for 5 min's of ranting..

I have argued with him about his soil recepie on line in his forum, if i'll say it in a thread i'll say it in another and if i say it online i'll say it to your face. know this.

look man, i don;t know you and i aint go no beef with you, but your wrong about sub. and my best suggestion is assume anyone in this game is a snake untill they prove otherwise. how has sub done that for you, other than sell you seeds? you ever actually see him do good? or just heard about it from him or his boys (some of which i bet are dupe accounts)

good luck man.
 

ink the world

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i don't see how what i said is backhanded..

the dude chucks pollen.

the dude sells gear for way over priced (not worked gear f2's and multi pheno breeds).

school of dank is a charity that he can actually right off.. i don't need/want/ or even care about the details but we alll know what a tax shelter is and since mmj has none we all know the need to build a secondary one to insulate profit margins..

the dude talks in third fucking person

The dude was reading all the details off the screen while he was ranting, he didn't even care enought to learn the facts for 5 min's of ranting..

I have argued with him about his soil recepie on line in his forum, if i'll say it in a thread i'll say it in another and if i say it online i'll say it to your face. know this.

look man, i don;t know you and i aint go no beef with you, but your wrong about sub. and my best suggestion is assume anyone in this game is a snake untill they prove otherwise. how has sub done that for you, other than sell you seeds? you ever actually see him do good? or just heard about it from him or his boys (some of which i bet are dupe accounts)

good luck man.
Ok brother, let me start w/ one thing that is most important to me. I dont have a problem with you at all, in fact I usually enjoy your posts. If I came off as being insulting or combative to you I apologize, that wasnt my intention.I speak my mind, sometimes that comes off as aggression I guess. Im done debating the whole thing, we both have our opinions. I would like to answer the questions that you asked me.

"the dude sells gear for way over priced"
In an earlier post you said his beans cost $100 a ten pack. I dont know where you got that price man, I paid $84 from Attiitude and I think SOS is cheaper, Ive paid more for 10 packs from other breeders.

"I have argued with him about his soil recepie on line in his forum, if i'll say it in a thread i'll say it in another and if i say it online i'll say it to your face. know this."
Ive never used his recipe either.The recipe originates from Vic High, not Sub. I dont even grow in soil anymore, im a coco guy myself. I dont think he;s the God of dope growing, you seem to think I do. Is that last part supposed to be a threat man? "know this" WTF man?

"and my best suggestion is assume anyone in this game is a snake untill they prove otherwise"
Ive been at this for 2 decades, licensed for the last couple years but underground for 17 or 18 years . I dont need anyone to explain the game to me. Ive did my stint in the Corps, tattooed professionally for a long time. LOL I dont need lessons.

how has sub done that for you, other than sell you seeds?
He's answered every question ive asked him and his beans have produced exactly like they are supposed to. Cant say Ive had a problem w/ any TGA gear. Thats all I care about, being happy with what I paid for, and I am.
 

mdanforth

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John Thiele is the last person that I'd ask for legal advice....I've called him multiple times to point out the advice he has given to caregivers and patients is 100 % wrong.....seeds are in a gray area, get around it by selling a shirt or mug, whatever....throw the seeds in for free.......
 

cerberus

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Ok brother, let me start w/ one thing that is most important to me. I dont have a problem with you at all, in fact I usually enjoy your posts. If I came off as being insulting or combative to you I apologize, that wasnt my intention.I speak my mind, sometimes that comes off as aggression I guess. Im done debating the whole thing, we both have our opinions. I would like to answer the questions that you asked me.
apology excepted, and I will say the same, i did not mean to come off aggressive or "threatening" if i did, i am sorry.

"the dude sells gear for way over priced"
In an earlier post you said his beans cost $100 a ten pack. I dont know where you got that price man, I paid $84 from Attiitude and I think SOS is cheaper, Ive paid more for 10 packs from other breeders.
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=125&sortOrder=
everything on the tude is 55.40 for a 5 pack..

"I have argued with him about his soil recepie on line in his forum, if i'll say it in a thread i'll say it in another and if i say it online i'll say it to your face. know this."
Ive never used his recipe either.The recipe originates from Vic High, not Sub. I dont even grow in soil anymore, im a coco guy myself. I dont think he;s the God of dope growing, you seem to think I do. Is that last part supposed to be a threat man? "know this" WTF man?
you are the one saying i am side stepping, and not saying what i meant. I make no bones about who I am or what I say, and i take offense to the suggestion I operate otherwise. know this. know that what i say to you here i will say to your face, this goes for anyone at anytime. it is not a threat it is a fact.
"and my best suggestion is assume anyone in this game is a snake untill they prove otherwise"
Ive been at this for 2 decades, licensed for the last couple years but underground for 17 or 18 years . I dont need anyone to explain the game to me. Ive did my stint in the Corps, tattooed professionally for a long time. LOL I dont need lessons.
man, i got over 40 hours of grey work in one piece.. i done my time on the street, i did my time in college, and i have done it and will continue to do them listening and learning. If you don't care for a lesson now and then, thats your right man. peace to ya.

how has sub done that for you, other than sell you seeds?
He's answered every question ive asked him and his beans have produced exactly like they are supposed to. Cant say Ive had a problem w/ any TGA gear. Thats all I care about, being happy with what I paid for, and I am.
good for you man. he hasn't done that with me or with many other people i know.


so like you said, beef quelched. we have both said our pieces.

take care brother
 

unohu69

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TGA, FTW, hey sub, thanx for your support for the autistic children.

Just curious which charity you support? I happen to have a child in the family that appreciates it. Thanx again, from one of the little guys....
 

mdanforth

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there are still gonna be seeds available to patients at the show I believe.....bring your rec with ya just in case....
 
but im currently growing a test strain for tga and its not quite what i hoped it would be....hermies and slow budding. i got 10 4 foot plants under 2k and ill be lucky to harvest a 1/2 lb after vegging for 8 weeks....i consitantly yield pound plus plants with the same setuo and veg time with dutch passions mazar..just sayin
 

cerberus

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but im currently growing a test strain for tga and its not quite what i hoped it would be....hermies and slow budding. i got 10 4 foot plants under 2k and ill be lucky to harvest a 1/2 lb after vegging for 8 weeks....i consitantly yield pound plus plants with the same setuo and veg time with dutch passions mazar..just sayin
10 plants under 2 k's and you normally do pounds a plant?! you normally yield 10+ pounds off of 2K?!'s

I call shinanegans!
 

Samwell Seed Well

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maybe he meant a pound plus total off 2k and to that i say

its the grower not the genetics a p of 2k is .3 grams a watt. . . . . .when im pissed at a harvest i get no less then .6

perspective
 
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