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Indoor Growing forums; Well, I was not able to find quality LED lights (with 5w emitters) for less than $410.00 per 165 watts, ...
Well, I was not able to find quality LED lights (with 5w emitters) for less than $410.00 per 165 watts, delivered. So that comes to $1,640.00 for 660 watts. I too will only use quality components. My 600w Quantum digital ballast cost about $180.00, Hortilux bulb about $110.00, Sun Blazer hood about $140.00, so $430.00 for the set up vs. let's say $1,500.00 for 600 watts of comparable LED. The LED's still put off some heat that has to be vented out. Even if they didn't, you will still need an inline fan and a carbon filter to exchange air and control odor, so there really is no escaping the duct work unless you have a situation where you are not concerned about odor or can leave them open to the outside air. I thought I could get by without ducting in an air exchange system, but Just ONE lady under one of those LED's promptly stunk my entire house up.
puffenuff, I truly hope you are correct. Just seems like an awfully expensive way to do it.
5w emitters arn't the key man in fact they loose efficiency at that high of wattage and they cost way too much , 3w (for now) is what people should be looking for, high quality 3w diodes will be more efficient than 5w'ers even with the extra penetration. the panels i use have good quality 3w diodes 60 degree lenses and a good mix of farred, penetration is not an issue in my tent farred penetrates right through the leaves , soon enough they will start making diodes better and more efficient then 5w and even 10w diodes will come into play i seen them out now but like i say there not efficient and heat management on them isnt quite there yet either a distributor on alibaba sells chips that are "1w-100w" ..... ill see if i can find the link
All the info I could gather pointed to higher watt emitters necessary to penetrate the canopy. However, that may or may not be the case. The Solar Flare LED's are driven at 75% capacity or 4 watts per, with the cooling fan accounting for the other 15 watts. I am not an expert on LED wattage vs. efficiency, but did note that the Solar Flare's and the Lumigrow both used 5 watt emmiters and the twin LED arrays on the LumiGrow looked just like two Solar Flare's stuck together. Again, two Solar Flare's were identical in output to the LimiGrow for half the price, plus you can seperate two Solar Flare's to give added coverage. The LimiGrow did offer dials that allowed you to adjust the different LED bands, but that didn't justify twice the cost to me.
Anyway, I very much want to be an LED fan and am only trying to share my experience so far with my lights. I do hope that combining them with HPS or CMH will result in superior returns, but I am not able to report on that just yet.
Will do, thanks.
Originally Posted by curly604
was checking around for new LED models today, and came across this new busy bee "bee fly" line
advertising "new 8W CREE 630nm LED" in the center of it's modular orbs...
Last edited by Psytranceorgy; 06-12-2012 at 01:49 PM.
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Here is a video of unpacking a smaller light with 8w cree.
Led-World keeps delivering new beauties..
Stinger S6 140 watt 3w single chip led grow light
Strange that they run 3W LED's on 1.5W or how else can you get 90 3W LED's to only use 140W
I see 2 on/off switches wonder whats for 2x3 or veg/flower
nt bends towards the LED like crazy
This also have 90 3W LED's and draws 180W and cost 438$ in the UK(Euro zone)
I think that the stinger looks like a good panel properly not run that hard on the LED compared to an Apollo 6
and is making less noise in the process, I would love to see the inside and what kind of heatsinks they are using.
yep... fun new stuff all the time!
...and it looks like Advanced LED is doing the same sort of thing with the new high-power CREE modules. They are advertising 10W CREE 2700K modules in their new models coming out (thanks pufflenuff!!!):
Originally Posted by puffenuff
Last edited by Psytranceorgy; 06-12-2012 at 01:48 PM.
Looks to me as the fan ribs on the sides is turning the wrong way - why blow the hot air down and not up ?
Originally Posted by hölynpöly
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