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curious old fart

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Reefer Sadness: You can smoke it, but you can't buy it



By Faith Mangan, Alicia Acuna
Published August 22, 2013
FoxNews.com



DENVER – Colorado and Washington state have both legalized the use and possession of small amounts of marijuana -- but while a majority of voters supported the change at the polls last year, there is currently no outright legal way to buy non-medical marijuana.




That's because the stores that reefer advocates hope will be the next big thing for the free-smoking movement could be shut out in many communities.

In Colorado, an option was built into constitutional Amendment 64 -- which technically legalized the drug -- for cities and towns to opt out.

So far, at least 51 municipal councils have voted to prohibit marijuana-selling stores. And more than 20 have enacted some kind of moratorium to buy more time, according to the Colorado Municipal League (CML) which is keeping tabs on which way towns are going.

Colorado Springs is the state's second-largest city and has medical marijuana, but the city council recently voted 5-4 to opt out of allowing retail stores as well as facilities for cultivation, manufacturing or testing. Don Knight, a councilman who voted with the majority, explained that potential tax revenue was not enough to justify other likely losses. "The input of $3.9 million that recreational marijuana would have given us, compared to the loss of tens of millions dollars, in either military or tourism, just didn't provide a balance sheet to me," he said.

Colorado Springs has several military assets including Fort Carson, the Air Force Academy, Peterson Air Force Base and North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). Knight believes that as military budgets shrink, it is crucial to remain competitive in retaining bases and units.

He said wide availability of marijuana would not help because "city leaders in other places like Huntsville, Omaha, that we compete against, would use that against us as they walk the halls of the Pentagon, saying, 'keep our unit here, we don't allow recreational marijuana sales.' "

Directly south of Colorado Springs, a 45-mile ride down Interstate 25, Pueblo County commissioners are working on regulations and fees for the business of selling marijuana to adults.

Pueblo County Commissioner Liane "Buffie" McFadyen says they are following the will of the voters and it will provide a revenue stream for the area. McFadyen says they have had success with regulating medical marijuana and "as we transition through these difficult times, with Washington and Colorado leading the way on recreational marijuana, it may set the precedent for the U.S. Congress to finally take up the issue in a safe and public safety driven manner." That's because marijuana is still illegal in eyes of federal government.

McFadyen is hopeful for a lucrative ripple effect -- more than just stores could decide to set up shop. "Maybe we'll be the hub of Colorado where we have the testing labs and have a lot of white-collar, good professional jobs contributing to our economy, testing the product from all over the state to ensure the state law is followed," said McFadyen. The county recently approved a greenhouse operation.

Marijuana grown in Pueblo could be trucked up to Denver. The capital's city council is considering legislation that proposes only allowing existing medical marijuana dispensaries to transition to retail for the first two years. In 2016, it would then open up to new businesses.

Despite the chance first stores may be slow coming or isolated to a few sections, legalization co-author Brian Vicente is confident "almost all four corners of the state will be covered." He says residents can still light up in private. "It's important to note citizens of this state who are 21 and over can possess marijuana in those communities, they simply won't be able to purchase it from a store," he said.

Vicente compares it to buying booze. "The marijuana sales will be just like alcohol with dry counties. If I were to live in a dry county, I can drive across the county line, purchase alcohol and bring it home. We're going to see the same with marijuana," he said.

A study by the Colorado Futures Center indicates the adult recreational marijuana market in Colorado will be worth more than $600 million. September is expected to be a "magic month" with stepped up activity here, according to Colorado Municipal League Deputy Director Kevin Bommer. Municipalities are mandated with either opting out or enacting ordinances by Oct. 1.

Washington state differs from Colorado on an important point. Washington's vote did not have language allowing cities to opt out. The state liquor board is working on regulations and if everything goes according to plan, it expects to start accepting applications in mid-November. It will then be up to businesses to meet local codes and ordinances.

Liquor board spokesman Brian Smith, though, says a few places have passed bans which could be "tested" in court; several others have passed moratoriums to wait for final rules.


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Dr.D81

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I worked on my door unit today and will have it up with 20 cutting on it. I pollinated 2 gdp buds just a minute ago. will cut the branches and collect some for my gdp #2. the rest will get to know (billy) bad ass #1 in 2 or 3 weeks.
 

Dr.D81

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SCRoG pr0n anyone......

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@COF interesting read man! I am a firm believer they should let military smoke weed cause right now the young ins in the military are fucking around with bath salts and SPICE shit which will kill them. They use that cause it cant be detected on piss tests.

Peace
FM
I just smoked any way f@ck them. I am skinny, and resourceful so it made it hard to get me. you are right it is a high stress job and my experience you are a drunk , on dope, or go to the 5th floor. I had very few that would smoke the ganja with me, but I have seen over half a co. fell a piss test for E
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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Sciatica sucks! That's why I eventually had my back surgery for. 3 years of barely being able to move and all the DR. wanted me to do was P.T.. They just figured with my past I was just trying to score scripts. When they finally did a MRI I was scheduled for surgery within the week. Wish you luck.
Thank you Jimmer. yeah im only 28 too... my buddy who is 23-24 i think, just had his second surgery trying to correct sciatica issues. both were unsuccessful.
Wife was just dealing with some sciatica with the pregnancy... didn't seem like very much fun. Hope you start feeling better soon bud.
Thx Jig. Yeah its intense... for me my right leg just hurts insanely bad. I can hardly sit in normal upright position, can hardly drive, cant ride my lawn mower... etc. just wish mine would go away in 9 months! lol. but being pregnant would suck too. hell sometimes i say it feels like im having a baby outta my leg.

It seriiously offends me when docs or nurses guess me to be after pills. If I wanted to get fucked up I'd do some real drugs lol. not a damn pain killer.
Yeah it makes it really really hard for them to trust someone like me: young, white, male, complaining of pain. It depends on who i get how much help i recieve sometimes. they dont understand im in 10/10 pain and NEED something. ends up forcing people to go find those "real drugs" sometimes
People come into the ER all the time trying to score pills though. I did clinicals and saw it all the time. You get people that are in so much debt they don't care, just walk into the ER and have phantom pains. They just keep coming back until the hospital gives them their drugs. Also the insurance companies are reluctant to do back surgeries because they cost a ton of money, and it can make problems worse which means more medical expenses for the insurer down the road.
I'm constantly bombarded with offers for pills from friends & doctors.
Pain pills & anti-depressants.
I hate the fucking things and refuse them unless it's an antibiotic from my doc's script.
With my addictive behaviour, the last thing I need in this life is another thing fucking me up and shifting my attentions.
I have grown to embrace my pains.
Lets me know I'm alive.
Addicted to pain... addicted to Life.
;-)

But don't mistake my hatred of pills for any negative thoughts towards those who need the things to make it to the next sunrise.
We all gotta do what we all gotta do.
My wife is an ER nurse you'd be amazed how many people are only looking for drugs. Or food, or a free ride home. A guy the other day was getting upset they wouldnt give him a sandwich in the waiting room. Then some people who are actually admitted ask for extra food to take home. Some want a free taxi ride home cuz they dont have money for a cab, yet they called 911 to get there. The shitty part isnt that these people are hungry or in need, its that they're fucking assholes about it and feel entitled to whatever they're trying to get. There is almost never a truly needy appreciative person that she deals with.
ER/Trauma personnel are a cut above.
Nothing but love from me to those who help people like my mom when she was in & out of the ER every few weeks for the last few years of her life.
Shame on those who play the system to get a little.
The problem is tho... then whenever someone comes in complaining of pain, the first thing they think is "uh-oh, he/she is just trying to get meds". That makes things so hard for someone like me who has an issue like sciatica, which the dr's cant really see right away. I have an even harder time because of the high crime area i live in too.

In order to keep a very long story a little shorter im gonna try to summarize my story here but i just wanted to point this out to u guys since i read all those posts.

Ive always had back pain issues, even as a teen. Mostly with my lower back, ive been bed-ridden for a week or so a couple times even back then. since ive gotten older ive had other episodes here and there that would flare up my lower back. well about 3 years ago, my leg started to bother me just as bad but wouldnt go away. It continued to get worse, and it still bothers me now. I cant get a job, i cant mow my damn lawn all the way by myself, and i cant garden the way id like to. only thing that helps?? opiate pain medication. exactly what the dr's dont want to give me. i understand im young and blah blah, but dude am i just supposed to suffer when there is something that could really help me have a bit of normal in my life??

so anyways what im getting at... i ended up having to find my own "medicine" in order to keep my job, and function daily in life. that led to me ending up on all sorts of different opiates/opioids and getting addicted. which possibly could have been avoided had the dr's done more in the first place for me. so fast forward to now: im on suboxone again to avoid being addicted to full agonist opiates. i really dont have much of another choice, other than methadone which is harder to get off of, and has all sorts of stigma and side effects. I hate to admit it, but for now im one of the ones who needs pain meds in order to function. the suboxone isnt a mircale cure or anything but at least i have that. when i smoke the right strain/phenotype of weed it really helps too. some kinds seem to increase the effects of the buprenorphine, which really helps me.

and btw i do agree with Doobie... im usually turning down pills. i hate anti-depressants. but with the amount of pain and insomnia i have lately, i cant turn down the meds i take. :(
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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i honestly am going to start keeping a list of strains that give me the most pain relief and/or opiate like effects.
so far ive been able to find a few that stand out:
Venus Flytrap(Nirvana) i got lucky and the only seed ive ever popped of this strain produced a pheno that seems to be much more connoisseur than commercial.
Chemdawg and its offspring. Ive had a random "chemdog" and "dinachem" in my own garden. the dinachem was much better. Ive also smoked many different chemdawgs and some of them where very helpful
OG kush: if its a REAL OG of somesort with that strong high, then it usually does the trick. dinafem OGK was good for me in my garden, there are many others tho.
bubba kush: obviously if its the real deal this one should help
medusa(nirvana) hard to find a keeper ime, but if u get the right one its power is similar to a very good bubba. heavily indica effects.

anyone have a handful of strains that they get this kind of effect im talking about from??
im geussing DOG would be a possible helper for me... too bad it was sold out when i ordered. :(
 

DoobieBrother

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Deep Blue, Extrema, cheese, livers, DOG, Casey Jones, and one that dababydroman is working on (BMF & casey jones) are all good for aches & pains, nausea, sleep, and lifting the spirits.
I've yet to try the newer strains, but they have many of the previous as their base genes, so they would be ones I'd also look into.
 

DoobieBrother

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And, smellslike, honestly: I was only commenting on my own weaknesses, not on others.
I'm rocking PTSD, chronic back & shoulder pain, periodic sciatica, bursitis in my feet, chronic insomnia, and leukemia.
I used to be a borderline super-athlete, and was 10-foot tall & bullet-proof, now I can barely walk around the block.
Haven't been able to hold a job in almost 8 years, and live in a small city where jobs are finite, so don't want to run through the short list of jobs and be known as unreliable because I can't do the work I was hired for because every month or less a problem pops up and I'm bed-ridden for a few weeks.
My docs won't sign off on SSI, and I don't want them to (I want to be healed so I can just get back to work), but they're always more than happy to try and prescribe opiates & their analogs, as well as anti-depressants, which I know I'd become addicted to in short order.
And fuck the VA.
Not going to them for shit.
My dad has been doing the VA thing for a long time, and that's a nightmare I want to avoid.
I do hope you can find some measure of relief, even if it only helps you reduce the amounts of pills you need to make it day by day.
:-(
 

dababydroman

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whats up 600! im still alive! incase anybody was wondering.. and doobs im sending you out some b-day presents tomorrow! sorry for the delay, hope they make it. cheers everybody..
 

DoobieBrother

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Hey, hey, dbd!
Good to hear from you!
Glad to hear you're alright out there!
A number of us out there have been running into bad luck, so we always worry about someone when they aren't around for a while.
And always feel relief when they pop up to say "hi".
:-)
 

DoobieBrother

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This should give me enough headroom for the next few weeks until we're moved out.
Just need to clear off the last bit of stuff and move the computer, then put the plants back in place.
This will give me 54-inches (137cm) of room from the shelf to the light bulb

 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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sry to hear about the list of probs there doobie. thats not fun to deal with.

yeah i can see why one would try and do everything to avoid the pills when they actually know what the consequences can typically be

Ive been considering trying a few southern charm seeds, i just would have to make room for them. i had a beautiful medusa plant that would have been great for what im looking for lately... but the damn thing is showing male pre-flowers. go figure. :(

nice work there with the setup. im so lazy lately... i dont even want to think about moving.
 

DoobieBrother

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Been to the point many times of wishing I wouldn't wake up when falling asleep, and being bummed when I'd open my eyes later in the morning, knowing I made it to another miserable day.
But my back is better than it was, and yesterday I was able to raise my left arm a bit above shoulder height for the first time in 3 months without debilitating, ripping pain.
So it could be worse.
Much worse.
I hope you can find some good herbs to help you out.
If you can get DOG, that should help with the insomnia, as it had me dozing off in my chair after smoking it, and it let me sleep a full 8 hours without waking up every hour like before.
 

DoobieBrother

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Have I mentioned that, after we've moved into the house, The Doob is going to finally work on learning how to slap, snap & pop so I can get my funk nice & stanky?

(Larry Graham from Graham Central Station fame. An innovator in funk bass from way back in the day)

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jimmer6577

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Doob loved the funk this morning with my bowl and coffee.

Well I Finally put my Dog, Black SS, And Casey Jones into flower yesterday. I left my L.H. in the corner to finish, and put the rest of my clones outside in the center of my back yard in a kiddie pool. I couldn't wait any longer. This way I'll have my outside done so I won't be wanting to pull anything early.

My Gf not getting called back to teaching at the same district might be a blessing. She has a master for administration but has never tried to use it but has finally applied to several admin jobs.
 
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