Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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Kite High

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i also admit i've been a lil put off recently on this forum. it seems like to every post i make older growers chime in and attempt to poop all over my thoughts and ideas and spout off about plant knowledge and tomatoes and scold me for not starting growing before, for not using the right nutrients, honestly i got the idea to start growing from watching "weeds". and the nutrient i saw advertised was what i bought, how was i to know it was the "devil". i feel their are other ways to educate than to get upset at someone for not knowing as much as you do.... that being said i have noticed my self getting a lil more snippy since joining this thread..... i just took my testosterone gel ( the 1.6 baby!!!) so I should man back up the morning. LOL
 

ASMALLVOICE

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i also admit i've been a lil put off recently on this forum. it seems like to every post i make older growers chime in and attempt to poop all over my thoughts and ideas and spout off about plant knowledge and tomatoes and scold me for not starting growing before, for not using the right nutrients, honestly i got the idea to start growing from watching "weeds". and the nutrient i saw advertised was what i bought, how was i to know it was the "devil". i feel their are other ways to educate than to get upset at someone for not knowing as much as you do.... that being said i have noticed my self getting a lil more snippy since joining this thread..... i just took my testosterone gel ( the 1.6 baby!!!) so I should man back up the morning. LOL
Hiya M8,
I know your pain. I am only on the 5th week of flowering my first grow. You have to take a step back from time to time and do a bit of research. Not just on here, as there are many sources to obtain knowledge from. After reading countless articles and going back and forth in my head about what I wanted to do, I realized that this is all about me and my desire to grow, just as yours is about you and your desire to grow.

Never sell yourself short, ever, as there is a never ending supply of people that are chomping at the bit to do it for you. Even when someone is climbing your ass because of a question or responce, it still is all about you and your plants. Let them have thier moment and move on, most of the time I don't respond ( unless I am in the political section, then its gloves off and lets dance...lol)

There is always something to be learned, sometimes what to do and sometimes what not to do. So do your thing and those that are going to hate are going to hate, no matter the subject. Steady as she grows captain.

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice
 

Kite High

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Hiya M8,
I know your pain. I am only on the 5th week of flowering my first grow. You have to take a step back from time to time and do a bit of research. Not just on here, as there are many sources to obtain knowledge from. After reading countless articles and going back and forth in my head about what I wanted to do, I realized that this is all about me and my desire to grow, just as yours is about you and your desire to grow.

Never sell yourself short, ever, as there is a never ending supply of people that are chomping at the bit to do it for you. Even when someone is climbing your ass because of a question or responce, it still is all about you and your plants. Let them have thier moment and move on, most of the time I don't respond ( unless I am in the political section, then its gloves off and lets dance...lol)

There is always something to be learned, sometimes what to do and sometimes what not to do. So do your thing and those that are going to hate are going to hate, no matter the subject. Steady as she grows captain.

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice
And I must admit that I really enjoy your words there...am a bit of the same ilk as you...your years as mine must be many
 

elkukupanda

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looks good!! is there some way you could adjust your white balance so the plant color shows through instaed of that hps yellow? I mean I could but it is not mine so?
Let me see if the cam have that option... its my ipad... if not tomorrow for sure bro, ill take pics before the hps heats up...
 

Bud Brewer

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I grew my first 3 plants in 1984 outside I got caught with wet weed I was drying by my mom before I actually smoke any at all I was just a kid.
A few years later me and a friend had a grow in his garage then when I moved out I grew organically for ten years Then was in a relationship with kids and didn't grow for years except one outside grow.

I just started up again with this crop a buddy had two left over clones outside he put them out in september he didn't want to kill them and they weren't going to produce much so I dug them up with a gallon of heavy garden soil.
I've always made my own soil mix this is 6o% coco 10% perlite 10% peat based soil 20% earth worm compost I added hair, eggshells, lime, coffee, blended fruit leftovers and sardines and let it cook it came out with excellent texture and they really took off after I put them in 18 gallon totes, they were in four gallon pots with a gallon of heavy garden soil on top it was a problem.

I bought a bag of alfalfa from a pet store and a bag of worm casings and fermented my own fertilizer I used the alfalfa mostly in veg the casings more in flower along with oats, coffee, milk and blended bone meal even sea salt and blended garlic along with molasses my leaves are all green losing only some buried in the canopy plants are 4 feet high 3 feet wide.

I know defoliation is a very valid pruning/training method I used to do it some when things got to thick now I have read tons on it and have done it heavily from veg and have seen the branching and density it creates.

I don't appreciate people coming into this defoliation thread and clogging it up with solar panel logic or just plan insults for pages on end without any real experience on this topic.

The leaves grow back from the branches making them take on a more dominant role then if you just let the top grow.

These plants had minimal branching until I striped the large leaves off











now after two defoliations you can see the branching and density of it from nothing previously.
 

donmagicjuan

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those plants look so shitty dude im sorry

by the time i have 3 nodes i got braches coming out the ass and branches coming out of those im sorry dude really
 

Bud Brewer

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those plants look so shitty dude im sorry

by the time i have 3 nodes i got braches coming out the ass and branches coming out of those im sorry dude really
It is strain dependent on the amount of branching these don't like to make branches as you can see from the pic.

This is one of them four weeks flowering a week after removing a half bag of leaf from each plant.

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elkukupanda

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I have a question... why not remove fan leaves before they even develop? you guys know the anatomy and shape you are looking for... why wait until it has collected and used valuable energy.. even tho i still think... leaf and roots together.. more is merrier.. just my question for leaf molesters
 
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