3 1/2 Month old plants.. Starting to give up?

[RetiredMatthebrute]

they have gone through alot of stress man and may just not have the will to survive.

if these ones dont make it what i think would be your best bet. germinate more seeds and fill both them containers right up to the top. once the seeds have germinated throw them into them containers and you woint have to transplant.

can always jutst pull the plug on the older plants and start fresh. new seedlings will outgrow the older plants anyways in a matter of 2-3 weeks.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Your plant makes me want to cry.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

i only suggest this because i hate to keep telling you to try and recover the 2 plants and have them die on you anyways which there is a chance they will. starting fresh you will have nice healthy seedlings to tend to and you will be able to watch them grow at a much more rapid rate than the 2 older plants are going to. up to you ultimatly but cant say i didnt warn ya

 

[alpha don]

reality is fatality. sigh.
right plant looks happy though, hopefully she makes it and i can clone her. that'll be my last option before germinating my main seeds.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Don't feel too bad. Shit happens. Learn and move on to better things =)

 

[Clonex]

You need to do some pretty serious mistakes to kill a weed,
Come spend an hour in my back yard cause i can't kill the fucks

 

[alpha don]

If I do decide to germinate, Could I start my plants in the larger pots?
starting 24/0 for sprout, 20/4 once they sprout, 18/6 for vegetation and then end it with a 12/12?
would it be okay to feed 10-15-10 NPK during germination and sprout? cut it off during vegetation, and introduce nitrogen when i start flowering??

 

[alpha don]

keyword:learn
lock:better
door:grow

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

If I do decide to germinate, Could I start my plants in the larger pots?
starting 24/0 for sprout, 20/4 once they sprout, 18/6 for vegetation and then end it with a 12/12?
would it be okay to feed 10-15-10 NPK during germination and sprout? cut it off during vegetation, and introduce nitrogen when i start flowering??

yes you can start them off in the big containers.

you can go 18.6 from the get go, if i rmemeber correctly you were concerned about electricity usage.

that fertilized should be fine but you wont need it till 2 weeks after you switch to 12/12 i would pretty much bet on that.

 

[alpha don]

Alright, wheres the honor button? I cant find it on your page.

 

[Flaming Pie]

If I do decide to germinate, Could I start my plants in the larger pots?
starting 24/0 for sprout, 20/4 once they sprout, 18/6 for vegetation and then end it with a 12/12?
would it be okay to feed 10-15-10 NPK during germination and sprout? cut it off during vegetation, and introduce nitrogen when i start flowering??

You can start your plants in the pots they will flower in, but most like to transplant 2-3 times.

In the general and newbie section of the forums they have detailed guides on each stage of growth =)

No nutes for first 2 weeks of growth. If before the first two weeks are over (say a week and a few days in) the bottom true leaves start to fade to yellow, it is safe to provide a 1/4 dose of nutes.

Let's focus on one step at a time. =)

 

[alpha don]

May I ask why they like to be transplanted? jc

recommended is 7 drops/L, by 1/4 dose you mean 2 drops/L should be enough?
And feed them every other watering all the way to harvest?

 

[jessica d]

white spots can be powdery mildew and it gets worse when heavy feeding. aphids "fruit fly looking" come from wet over fert soil but so small u gotta use a fork to till the soil to see them i find.

Precisely. This is one of the factors i've embedded into my head now. This will defs be avoided next grow.

Not much white spots now, there was plenty when i was feeding but not no more.

fruit fly babies? hmm.. I dont have fruit flies in my house to begin with. The only arachnids in my house are spiders. But that's only cos I like em.

Thanks for looking out, appreciate it

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

Alright, wheres the honor button? I cant find it on your page.

not sure what you mean by honor button

May I ask why they like to be transplanted? jc

recommended is 7 drops/L, by 1/4 dose you mean 2 drops/L should be enough?
And feed them every other watering all the way to harvest?

its not the plants that like to be transplanted its people that like transplanting. i suggested to just put them in thier final container to cut down on any avoidable risks or shock.

yes you are correct on the dosage but like i said before the soil should have plenty of nutrients in it where you shouldnt need any fertilizer for a while, the little cyteldoyon (spellin sucks) leaves will always turn yellow and fall off as they are just a small food source for the plant to get going enough to make its own food.

 

[alpha don]

Much better. Well, if it comes down to that I will make a new thread and call it redemption.
Ive still got 2 more weeks until final results.
Will keep you guys posted.

 

[Flaming Pie]

May I ask why they like to be transplanted? jc

recommended is 7 drops/L, by 1/4 dose you mean 2 drops/L should be enough?
And feed them every other watering all the way to harvest?

It causes the roots to try to grow latarally instead of down mainly.

No the first couple doses are 1/4 dose. Then after a week or so you slowly increase dosage. As the plant becomes bigger, it needs more nutrients.

 

[ThirstyRoss]

alpha don, another tip for you on local shops, and no offense to Thundercat, but THC on Yonge is way too expensive...I expect they have to cover their rent in that prime location.

Better bet is the smaller shops, there is one called Grow It All near dufferin/dupont which is reasonably convenient to get to and has generally better prices than THC.

Cheers!

 

[alpha don]

I'm confused now.
I dont choose sides, so your both right.
Whether adding or not adding nutes is the best decision in my case, that's entirely up to you guys.
What you said makes complete sense though. Almost common logical.
But Matt sounds like he's only mentioning what's best in my case.
I can get moist soil with 6 months plant food provided in it, Or I can get plain organic soil and feed.
Your the teachers.

 

[alpha don]

alpha don, another tip for you on local shops, and no offense to Thundercat, but THC on Yonge is way too expensive...I expect they have to cover their rent in that prime location.

Better bet is the smaller shops, there is one called Grow It All near dufferin/dupont which is reasonably convenient to get to and has generally better prices than THC.

Cheers!

growitall.ca

I'll stop by this place tomorrow and pick up some cloning equipment.
Dank you

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

i dont recomend feeding anything for a while. if the pant is nice and green then it dosent need any suplimented food.