where do i sign up for my free stuff?

[Harrekin]

I was born not far from where you are at.....A hop skip and a jump.......Is the log cabin reference something I missed?.....maybe you can fill me in.........nitro..

It's a reference to the fact Barack "The Ears" Obama reckons "you didn't build that".

 

[fdd2blk]

this forum is free.

 

[a mongo frog]

Great video, I love the end where he is all jazzed up and stoked.
So fucking funny. Haaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa........

 

[UncleBuck]

I was born not far from where you are at.....A hop skip and a jump.......Is the log cabin reference something I missed?.....maybe you can fill me in.........nitro..

i would imagine that anyone who quotes dick morris like you did is missing a hell of a lot more than a log cabin reference

 

[nitro harley]

this forum is free.

Not really.....The last time I looked I was paying for the internet....then you can use this forum as long as you pay........nitro...

 

[UncleBuck]

Not really.....The last time I looked I was paying for the internet....then you can use this forum as long as you pay........nitro...

those socialist libraries be damned.

 

[nitro harley]

i would imagine that anyone who quotes dick morris like you did is missing a hell of a lot more than a log cabin reference

You must be talking about the land slide prediction.....If you go back and look at the first post on that topic, I think it starts off as..... this is not my opinion......did you miss that?.........nitro...

 

[UncleBuck]

You must be talking about the land slide prediction.....If you go back and look at the first post on that topic, I think it starts off as..... this is not my opinion......did you miss that?.........nitro...

all i remember was your inability to spell a first grader word and your belief in dick morris. i laughed heartily.

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/579203-i-am-starting-here-romney.html

maybe you never did take advantage of a public education after all.

 

[fdd2blk]

Not really.....The last time I looked I was paying for the internet....then you can use this forum as long as you pay........nitro...

just go to starbucks. or tap into your neighbors wifi. there are numerous ways to obtain free internet. you just have to look for them.

 

[UncleBuck]

or tap into your neighbors wifi.

 

[fdd2blk]

my neighbor looks over the fence the other day "hey, is your network named XXXX". i tell him "yes". he says "cool, i've been tapping into your internets". he kinda just smiles and wanders away.

 

[nitro harley]

just go to starbucks. or tap into your neighbors wifi. there are numerous ways to obtain free internet. you just have to look for them.

Starbucks....went out of business where I live......and I don't know my neighbors pass word.......But I am sure some people get free internet I agree.......just not me.......nitro..

 

[nitro harley]

all i remember was your inability to spell a first grader word and your belief in dick morris. i laughed heartily.

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/579203-i-am-starting-here-romney.html

maybe you never did take advantage of a public education after all.

I am better at math then I am spelling......You seem angry?......I don't think your man lost the election....cheer up a little bit......or get rid of the Romney sign for a avitar......It might be keeping the hate going............nitro..

 

[UncleBuck]

I am better at math then I am spelling......You seem angry?......I don't think your man lost the election....cheer up a little bit......or get rid of the Romney sign for a avitar......It might be keeping the hate going............nitro..

you may be confusing gloat with anger.

this guy doesn't get free shit either, not even $77,731.00 for his dancing horse.

 

[nitro harley]

you may be confusing gloat with anger.

this guy doesn't get free shit either, not even $77,731.00 for his dancing horse.

Thats kinda like beating a dead horse......What does this guy have to do with you anymore......My guess is you probably wont even here much about him anymore......and I don't think many people will.....Time to focus on the winner don't you think?................nitro..

 

[Fungus Gnat]

Sounds like a good program. If he is able to land a better job from getting a higher education, then it will payoff for taxpayers in the long run.

Also in alot of states people that get assistance payback what they got from their estates when they die.

 

[HeartlandHank]

Sadly, government "management" of entitlement funds costs us a large percentage. Some costs are unavoidable, but the government's cut is too large. Government does poorly at job creation and training programs, too. A CETA program operated near my place of employment was only able to employ 5% of the trainees they produced. Of the 5%, only 10% were employed a year later. The trainees were welfare recipients who were required to undergo job training or face reduction/loss of benefits. They were paid extra to attend the training. Since they could return to the welfare system without penalty, most did. The recent "green jobs" program cost us, what $250,000 a job? And those jobs have largely disappeared. I would feel a lot better about paying taxes if they were used more efficiently.

A lot of those green jobs are still going.The windopower industry is making GREAT jobs in a town I used to live in. Enough jobs that if it disappeared it could be very bad for the local economy.
But, the companies go broke often,, and then sell to another who think they can do better.. Repeat, repeat, repeat...
This city is producing more wind power turbines than anyone in the US.. I still have friends working for them though... Engineers as well as people in manufacturing. They both make very good money, the companies are slowly continuing to hire.
. Manufacturing is a cozy job and you can stay in one place... The engineering jobs in this industry pay VERY well. But forget about settling down somewhere. You have to move around a bit if you want to increase your income. My friend is doing very well in Denver now. He was in Wyoming just a few years ago.

I think the government spending on the green energy industry is just a smart investment. My guess..... No private industry wants a piece of that because they will not make the money that they will make just exhausting our currently usable non sustainable resources. Is it exon that was investing in the algea energy....? that is an exception i guess.

I do agree that most of the time a private company can fulfill a need in a more cost effective way than the government can... However, there are some things that are just not meant to turn a profit...
The best example for that is prisons... Private prisons are TERRIBLE... Look at what Gary Johnson did in NM as Governor. That is terrible... Contract with the state were signed to assure that prisons are always kept at least 90% capacity... Whether that will be naturally filled or not, the idea that the state is in contract to imprison a set number of its population is a fucking horrible thing.There are a number of lawsuits from inmates with mental health issues. Some thrown in to solitary, no trial, fed sedatives. One guy was in solitary for 2 years for a DWI charge, no trial, never saw a mental health pro, fed sedatives.... He sued the state for 22 million just a few years ago.

While USPS could definitely be ran more efficiently by the govt contracting it out to be privately ran... the number of employees who could be layed off makes it a dangerous move.

 

[Red1966]

One company is not "A lot". Besides, aren't most of the wind turbines being installed manufacture overseas? A "smart investment" pays you a dividend, not loses billions. Your wish for "green Energy" is not relevant to its value as an investment. Thanks to new technology, we have enough "non sustainable" fuel resources to last hundreds of years, even more if you count the vast amount of coal we have. I agree that privately run prisons are a bad idea. The USPS's problems are not lack of efficiency, but enormous pension and healthcare payments being made to the federal government, claimed by the government to be just "making up" past underpayments. I don't know which, if either party is correct. Just eliminating Saturday deliveries would supposedly put them back in the black. Postal service is a luxury I have become accustomed to. They do a great job. I would be willing to pay more for a stamp, tho many may not.

 

[Hemlock]

There was a lengthy discussion about government assistance recently. Lots of it was about welfare.
Whenever I have a long discussion with a conservative I usually walk away with seeing at least one thing their way.
I think eliminating some of the abusers of the system would be a good thing. Assuming that there would not be unexpected consequences leading to people who are really in need not getting the help. I would rather see that saved money go to offer even more to those in need.... not cutting taxes. That is where myself and the conservative would disagree.

I never understand why demos don't wanna cut taxes.

Fact if the Bush tax cut expire and every loop hole in the tax code was cut out. the federal Government would have enough money to Run
for 91 days......

 

[HeartlandHank]

One company is not "A lot". Besides, aren't most of the wind turbines being installed manufacture overseas? A "smart investment" pays you a dividend, not loses billions. Your wish for "green Energy" is not relevant to its value as an investment. Thanks to new technology, we have enough "non sustainable" fuel resources to last hundreds of years, even more if you count the vast amount of coal we have. I agree that privately run prisons are a bad idea. The USPS's problems are not lack of efficiency, but enormous pension and healthcare payments being made to the federal government, claimed by the government to be just "making up" past underpayments. I don't know which, if either party is correct. Just eliminating Saturday deliveries would supposedly put them back in the black. Postal service is a luxury I have become accustomed to. They do a great job. I would be willing to pay more for a stamp, tho many may not.

A quick wiki gives you a rundown of windmill turbine manufacturers. It looks like the company I spoke of is no longer making the most in the US. GE now holds that spot as #1 in the US, #5 in the world.

Hundreds of years is great and all.. I wonder how the prices will be effected as we deplete just 10%, then 20%, then 30% etc, etc.... Energy, climate and such, that is something you and I will never agree on. I don't even want to open that can with you and NoDrama.

Yep. 45 cents to send a piece of paper from Maine to Southern California is quite a bargain. Even at that price, I do nearly all of my invoicing through email. Very few people actually want a hard copy. I think we all know that there was a time when USPS was much needed at low cost.
I grew up with a friend who had two postal worker parents. I did notice that they were retired much earlier than most others parents. Doing quite well too, financially.