President Obama Falsely Claims Fast and Furious Program “Begun Under the Previous Adm

SSHZ

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This administration will go down as one of the 2 worse ever......right along side with Jimmy Carter. Let's hope there's enough left of the nation when O leaves to be rebuilt. Funny, every single thing Glen Beck used to rant about has come to pass- makes you wonder what's next????
 

Carne Seca

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The ATF began Project Gunrunner as a pilot project in Laredo, Texas, in 2005 and expanded it as a national initiative in 2006. Project Gunrunner is also part of the Department of Justice’s broader Southwest Border Initiative, which seeks to reduce cross-border drug and firearms trafficking and the high level of violence associated with these activities on both sides of the border.[SUP][4][/SUP]
ATF had determined that the Mexican cartels had become the leading gun trafficking organizations operating in the southwest U.S. and is working in collaboration with other agencies and the Government of Mexico to expand the eTrace firearm tracing software system.[SUP][5][/SUP] eTrace provides web based access to ATF’s Firearms Tracing System to allow law enforcement both domestically and internationally the ability to trace firearms encountered in connection with a criminal investigation to the first recorded purchaser[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] (who may have innocently sold the gun years ago). eTrace allows law enforcement to access their trace results directly (name and address of first purchaser) and offers the ability to generate statistical reports to analyze their trace data to estimate firearms trafficking trends or patterns.
ATF announced a goal to deploy eTrace software to all thirty-one states within the Republic of Mexico. As part of eTrace expansion, ATF continues to provide training to Mexican and Central American countries to ensure that the technology is utilized to a greater extent.[SUP][5][/SUP] Colombia and Mexico were provided with their own in-country tracing centers with full access to ATF firearm registration records. In Colombia, a joint ATF-CNP Center for Anti-Explosives Information and Firearms Tracing (CIARA) opened on December 6, 2006.[SUP][9][/SUP] In Mexico, The National Center for Information, Analysis and Planning in order to Fight Crime (CENAPI) was established in 2003. ATF states these are models for planned future tracing centers throughout Central and South America and the Caribbean Basin.[SUP][10][/SUP] In December, 2009, ATF announced deployment of a Spanish version of eTrace to Mexico, Guatemala and Costa Rica. A planned second phase will release the software to all Spanish-speaking countries with agreements with ATF. In June 2011 Congress opened an investigation into Project Gunrunner against the ATF, as some ATF agents have come forward stating that top heads in ATF and the Department of Justice instructed the agents to encourage gun stores in the U.S. to sell assault-style weapons to Mexican firearm traffickers.
In 2009, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009[SUP][11][/SUP] provided $40 million to state and local law enforcement agencies. This money was primarily slated for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the southern border; and, in high-intensity drug trafficking areas, to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the southern border. $10 million of the money was to be transferred to the BATF for Project Gunrunner to hire personnel and open facilities in 6 new locations. The use of "stimulus" money to fund Project Gunrunner is controversial, given the ATF Phoenix Field Division's reported initiative of allowing known criminals to purchase guns in an effort to gain intelligence on the cartels (Operation Fast and Furious).

Taken from Wikipedia.

::sigh:: stupid on top of stupid.
 

jpill

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It doesn't matter which party you represent , our political system as a whole is corrupt. The United State political system pledge allegiance to fiat currency and corporations and thats it.
 

poplars

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lol I always find it hilarious when you guys can quote ONE or TWO things obama has said falsely, when it comes to romney the list of lies are so long we'd be here all night!!!

keep bsing, the majority of americans will see who's really the entitled fucks.
 

ink the world

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It doesn't matter which party you represent , our political system as a whole is corrupt. The United State political system pledge allegiance to fiat currency and corporations and thats it.
While I agree with you on some level, it doesnt address the subject at hand.

Which is how Rollinbud has committed another act of buffoonery. I will give him credit for just posting a link instead of his usual mess of a 845,794 word CP job in one long assed paragraph
 

Mr Neutron

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For those that will not read the ABC article:

President Obama Falsely Claims Fast and Furious Program “Begun Under the Previous Administration”

That's right, it's a copy/paste from the article. Own it.
 

Mr Neutron

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While I agree with you on some level, it doesnt address the subject at hand.

Which is how Rollinbud has committed another act of buffoonery. I will give him credit for just posting a link instead of his usual mess of a 845,794 word CP job in one long assed paragraph
Yeah, it would be better to hide those kind of articles, huh? Or better yet, just destroy them, make them as though they never existed.
Winston, is that you?
 

Mr Neutron

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lol I always find it hilarious when you guys can quote ONE or TWO things obama has said falsely, when it comes to romney the list of lies are so long we'd be here all night!!!

keep bsing, the majority of americans will see who's really the entitled fucks.
Go ahead and list them. I'd like to see them, too. It makes no difference to me. Obama's administration has been just an extension of W's regime and you want him to win.... why? Hope and change? Really? I got a bridge in Arizona I'd like to sell you.
 

thehole

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Project Gunrunner(Fast and Furious) began in Laredo, Texas, in 2005 and was expanded in 2006. Operation Fast and Furious(originally Gunrunner) was operational from 2009 to 2011. The operations were committed by Justice and ATF. Not only did Obama not institute this policy(that happened under Bush) but Obama did not have first hand knowledge of the current operations.

You conservatives are trying to grab at anything just to create and promote propaganda in hopes enough people believe it so it has some effect. But it won't. It's both pleasing and sad to see this movement and the republican party slowly and surely dying. It's a weird thing to witness, but it definitely puts a smile on my face.

Obama by 9% in popular. Obama by 128 in electorals.

Accept facts, right-wing conservatism is dead. There are almost as many democrat conservatives as there are republican conservatives, so the fact 50% of the country identifies themselves as a conservative is meaningless. Almost half of those vote dem, about half a percent of the conservative dems vote republican.
Dems have the gays, women, the youth and the elderly.
The Obama re-election and the republican losses in congress will not be a fluke, it will be a new direction. Fucking just accept it, you lost.
 

poplars

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Go ahead and list them. I'd like to see them, too. It makes no difference to me. Obama's administration has been just an extension of W's regime and you want him to win.... why? Hope and change? Really? I got a bridge in Arizona I'd like to sell you.
I'd rather pick that over a millionaire who thinks 47% of this country are mindless mooches not worth even convincing otherwise. keep on spatterin on, god knows people like yourself have plenty of bullshit to pick from.
 

Winter Woman

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Gun walking, like the war in Iraq, started on Dubya's watch and ended on Obama's.

Argue semantics more.
No, Wide Receiver ended during Bush's admin and Wide Receiver did track their guns. Fast and Furious was completely made during Obama's admin and did not track the guns.

I suggest you argue with facts.
 

Mr Neutron

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I'd rather pick that over a millionaire who thinks 47% of this country are mindless mooches not worth even convincing otherwise. keep on spatterin on, god knows people like yourself have plenty of bullshit to pick from.
Epic! Oh yeah, you're gonna fit in around here real good. You say there is a list of Romney's lies so long, it would take all night to go over them, I reply with a serious response of encouragement to post some of them because I don't like Romney, either and you do what?... make insulting remarks and ...

[video=youtube_share;KAp9sFVdERQ]http://youtu.be/KAp9sFVdERQ[/video]
 

Mr Neutron

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No, Wide Receiver ended during Bush's admin and Wide Receiver did track their guns. Fast and Furious was completely made during Obama's admin and did not track the guns.

I suggest you argue with facts.
The only facts they are concerned with are the ones they manufacture.
 
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