Oregon man jailed for collecting rainwater

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ChesusRice

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this guy was not following the law, he was caught, and now he has to own up to his decisions.

as much as you want to get all political this is pretty simple: dude doesn't think he needs a permit... well he does... just because he doesn't agree with it doesn't mean he gets to do what he wants....

i thought neo-cons were all about personal responsibility... guy's personally responsible for his actions... time to man up...
This has been going on since 2002
he knows his actions are outside of the law
and he got a minimal punishment for breaking said law
 

beenthere

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this guy was not following the law, he was caught, and now he has to own up to his decisions.

as much as you want to get all political this is pretty simple: dude doesn't think he needs a permit... well he does... just because he doesn't agree with it doesn't mean he gets to do what he wants....

i thought neo-cons were all about personal responsibility... guy's personally responsible for his actions... time to man up...
Well, if you paid any attention, you would know he is disputing the law and after looking at his property and the 1925 law, I think he has a good case!

Why do people like you love stand up for government so much, and could give a shit about property owners rights?

BTW, I have no clue what ideals "neocons" adhere to, ask a neocon!
 

beenthere

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i guess this buy was just damming an invisible creek right
dumbfuck?
No mush brain, he's damming diffused runoff, do you see a fucking creek on his property?
You already claimed Big Butte Creek which is year round ran through it, so WTF Skippy, did it disappear? LOL
 

WyoGrow

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But it's not "navigable water" is it, shit for brains!
Do you ever think before you open that big mouth of yours?
Quit adding that nitrogen to mature flowering plants and you just might end up with top shelf taste, NEWB!

You should maybe know what you are talking about.... like before you start telling people they are stupid and stuff
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Well, if you paid any attention, you would know he is disputing the law and after looking at his property and the 1925 law, I think he has a good case!

Why do people like you love stand up for government so much, and could give a shit about property owners rights?

BTW, I have no clue what ideals "neocons" adhere to, ask a neocon!
so your acknowledging that he intentionally broke the law and is justified . . ?

and what about this case and the 1925 law do you feel will be changed or revised in order to allow him to do whatever it is you think he is doing, i cant assume my premise is correct . . .?

and i thought the issue is not navigable water but water, part of a watershed that is designated for a different purpose, and there is no legal right to steal water/runoff thats already owned

where i live its illegal to pollute the watershed, im assuming it is similar laws protecting the use/storage and diversion of any water within specific amounts in that water shed, where you from beenthere, somewhere without abundant water im assuming?
 

redivider

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Well, if you paid any attention, you would know he is disputing the law and after looking at his property and the 1925 law, I think he has a good case!

Why do people like you love stand up for government so much, and could give a shit about property owners rights?

BTW, I have no clue what ideals "neocons" adhere to, ask a neocon!
well that's your opinion... judges have already convicted him once...

water flow isn't a property owner's rights so I don't know what you are talking about..

if he's damming a creek, holding all the water to himself, and a guy who owns property downstream doesn't get enough water... what then?? same creek, two different property owners two different properties... what then? think about it...
 

beenthere

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You should maybe know what you are talking about.... like before you start telling people they are stupid and stuff
I do know what I'm talking about, it's not even close to being navigable water. Anyone with half a brain could figure this out.
 

UncleBuck

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I do know what I'm talking about, it's not even close to being navigable water. Anyone with half a brain could figure this out.
doesn't have to be navigable water, braniac.

and show me the tributary that feeds the actual reservoir just northwest of his property.

just because it doesn't show up on google earth doesn't mean it doesn't exist, smart guy.

and if he is so innocent, why did he plead guilty to this same charge in 2008 and wait until he was off probation to do it all again?

i just watered my plants, and i added nitrogen. i plan on keeping nitrogen at full levels until preflowering shows up in late august, at which point i will gradually cut down.

where are all those pics of your awesome grows? seems like you just try to bait people into showing their grows to collect evidence, like a narc would.
 

cannabineer

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Easy on that nitrogen, UB. It has been conclusively linked to emerging conservatism and a sudden admiration of "Hee Haw" reruns. cn
 

Samwell Seed Well

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come on now i can just repost it agian, flex that brain of yours and educate me as i do not know anyting about the law
Well, if you paid any attention, you would know he is disputing the law and after looking at his property and the 1925 law, I think he has a good case!

Why do people like you love stand up for government so much, and could give a shit about property owners rights?

BTW, I have no clue what ideals "neocons" adhere to, ask a neocon!
so your acknowledging that he intentionally broke the law and is justified . . ?

and what about this case and the 1925 law do you feel will be changed or revised in order to allow him to do whatever it is you think he is doing, i cant assume my premise is correct . . .?

and i thought the issue is not navigable water but water, part of a watershed that is designated for a different purpose, and there is no legal right to steal water/runoff thats already owned

where i live its illegal to pollute the watershed, im assuming it is similar laws protecting the use/storage and diversion of any water within specific amounts in that water shed, where you from beenthere, somewhere without abundant water im assuming?
 

beenthere

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so your acknowledging that he intentionally broke the law and is justified . . ?
To the contrary, I don't believe he broke the 1925 law, is there anything wrong in your book for someone standing up for their rights when they feel they've been wronged?

and what about this case and the 1925 law do you feel will be changed or revised in order to allow him to do whatever it is you think he is doing, i cant assume my premise is correct . . .?
I believe the law was written very specific in saying private land owners cannot restrict, divert or dam up watersfrom Big Butte Creek or the springs at the head that form the creek, obviously he is doing neither.
If he was literally damming Big Butte Creek or any of it's tributaries, I would wholeheartedly agree that he was breaking the law.


and i thought the issue is not navigable water but water, part of a watershed that is designated for a different purpose, and there is no legal right to steal water/runoff thats already owned
You are right, the issue isn't about navigable waters because the water this guy is damming isn't close to being navigable, but some on here think it makes a stronger case for their argument.


where i live its illegal to pollute the watershed, im assuming it is similar laws protecting the use/storage and diversion of any water within specific amounts in that water shed, where you from beenthere, somewhere without abundant water im assuming?
Nah, there's plenty of water here in Nor Cal.
 

beenthere

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doesn't have to be navigable water, braniac.
I agree, but your the one that made that argument, and lost I might add!

and show me the tributary that feeds the actual reservoir just northwest of his property.

just because it doesn't show up on google earth doesn't mean it doesn't exist, smart guy.
There is no tributary moron, that's the whole fucking point and the property owners contention, do you comprehend what you read shit for brains?

“The withdrawal said the stream and its tributaries. It didn’t mention anything about rainwater and it didn’t mention anything about snow melt and it didn’t mention anything about diffused water, but yet now, they’re trying to expand that to include that rain water and they’re using me as the goat to do it,” Harrington




and if he is so innocent, why did he plead guilty to this same charge in 2008 and wait until he was off probation to do it all again?
That's a question only he can answer for sure but my guess is, he didn't want or couldn't afford the money it would take to fight them in court!

i just watered my plants, and i added nitrogen. i plan on keeping nitrogen at full levels until preflowering shows up in late august, at which point i will gradually cut down.
Excellent, you're learning something at least. Maybe later in your endeavors you'll find out that many equatorial strains have less chlorophyll (green) and more yellow pigments to protect the plant from intense light.
Stay off that nitrogen fetish of yours midway through the flowering stage and give them a good flush, you'll be surprised with the superior smell and taste.

where are all those pics of your awesome grows? seems like you just try to bait people into showing their grows to collect evidence, like a narc would.
I've never baited one person on this forum to show their pics and that's a fact, for you to even insinuate it, tells me you are one frustrated little worm of a man.
I couldn't really give a flying fuck about seeing cannabis pics punkass, that's about as exciting as looking at pictures of my wife.

The next time you feel the need to call anyone a narc, have the balls to do it to their face, don't be a little punkass hiding behind a computer, Oregon's not that far away from Nor Cal.
 

Murfy

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uncle betty-

did you go and read one of the real UB's threads. or rm3's.

they told me they think you're a duke.
 
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