What Is The Nature Of?

[Landmark]

What is the nature of division?

 

[sworth]

Is that long division? Or with a calculator?

 

[sworth]

Because I know the nature of long division...

 

[Landmark]

Thought in its right place, certainly. Mathematics.There is no problem there. Now what happens when that is applied to human beings, psychologically? What occurs?

 

[cannabineer]

Thought in its right place, certainly. Mathematics.There is no problem there. Now what happens when that is applied to human beings, psychologically? What occurs?

In order to treat that question with any sort of meaning, we need to define our terms. If we do not, then we're only tossing questionably evocative vaguenesses about, and that is a bankrupt method. Landmark, what do you mean by division in this context? cn

 

[sworth]

In order to treat that question with any sort of meaning, we need to define our terms. If we do not, then we're only tossing questionably evocative vaguenesses about, and that is a bankrupt method. Landmark, what do you mean by division in this context? cn

Yeh, what he said.....this could be an original thread!!..much better than usual the religion/atheism endless ego wanking...
(Edit) "Evocative Vagueness"....like it. Putting it in my sketch book. +rep (that were easy! lol)

 

[Landmark]

In order to treat that question with any sort of meaning, we need to define our terms. If we do not, then we're only tossing questionably evocative vaguenesses about, and that is a bankrupt method. Landmark, what do you mean by division in this context? cn

May we begin here, is there 'one who thinks or there is thought?

 

[cannabineer]

May we begin here, is there 'one who thinks or there is thought?

I would like to answer that, but I cannot penetrate the sentence. Since I have no clue what you're asking, might I ask you to rephrase, elaborate?

Take the last three words, " ... there is thought?"
It depends on if the final word is a noun or a participle.
If noun, it seems you are asking "does thought exist?" with the implication that it might exist independent of an identifiable thinker.
If participle, and allowing for unconventional syntax, the connotation becomes "do our identities have meaning because someone/something at a higher order of existence is imagining us?"
The two possibilities are so different that there is no way to hazard an answer that could cover both deduced clarifications.

Please, Landmark ... define, specify, show the boundaries. Channel your inner engineer or contract lawyer. cn

 

[Landmark]

I would like to answer that, but I cannot penetrate the sentence. Since I have no clue what you're asking, might I ask you to rephrase, elaborate?

Take the last three words, " ... there is thought?"
It depends on if the final word is a noun or a participle.
If noun, it seems you are asking "does thought exist?" with the implication that it might exist independent of an identifiable thinker.
If participle, and allowing for unconventional syntax, the connotation becomes "do our identities have meaning because someone/something at a higher order of existence is imagining us?"
The two possibilities are so different that there is no way to hazard an answer that could cover both deduced clarifications.

Please, Landmark ... define, specify, show the boundaries. Channel your inner engineer or contract lawyer. cn

Sir, a rephrase... does it occur for you as 'i think', which is a thinker, or does it occur for you as 'there is thought, there is no thinker'?

 

[cannabineer]

If you're asking me whether or not identity is a real thing, I am tempted to answer glibly, but I cannot do so, not honestly. The hurdle for me is that the nature of identity is not philosophically certain. At a more mundane level -
while the truth of "I" as a basic component of reality is, imo, not an easy question, in daily mundane fact it's more than useful; it's elementary. One of the first things a human newborn learns over its first six months or so, is boundedness of self. I v. not-I. So while division, compartmentation, identification are imo basic features of the human mind, I can't really say much about the nature of division.

I do not know if that is to your point andor satisfactory. cn

 

[Landmark]

If you're asking me whether or not identity is a real thing, I am tempted to answer glibly, but I cannot do so, not honestly. The hurdle for me is that the nature of identity is not philosophically certain. At a more mundane level -
while the truth of "I" as a basic component of reality is, imo, not an easy question, in daily mundane fact it's more than useful; it's elementary. One of the first things a human newborn learns over its first six months or so, is boundedness of self. I v. not-I. So while division, compartmentation, identification are imo basic features of the human mind, I can't really say much about the nature of division.

I do not know if that is to your point andor satisfactory. cn

Sir the question is not, "whether or not identity is a real thing" that was not what was asked

 

[cannabineer]

Sir the question is not, "whether or not identity is a real thing" that was not what was asked

"Sir." ~giggle~
How is my perception of the question different from yours? cn

 

[sso]

you are asking, is anything real.

is there a thinker at all, or is there just thought.

does it all exist in the mind or is there even a thinker to begin with?

why do you ask about division?

 

[Landmark]

"Sir." ~giggle~
How is my perception of the question different from yours? cn

Sir or Maam, as it is not personal, there was a meaning made of the question, there is nothing wrong with that, however the question was not met fully, so to speak.

 

[Landmark]

you are asking, is anything real.
is there a thinker at all, or is there just thought.
does it all exist in the mind or is there even a thinker to begin with?
why do you ask about division?

No, i have not asked that in this thread.

How does it occur for you? that there is a thinker? eg...'you have thoughts.' Or 'thoughts occur, there is no thinker of thought's'?

Both great questions, one of which is being inquired into

I find the question worthy of my life (it is not really mine) as the impact of it is everywhere

 

[olylifter420]

I think its synthetic division

 

[olylifter420]

I think the thinker here has no idea what the OP is thinking about.

Great responses to the ops questions, yet they are not valid,

Does anyone smell troll?

 

[Landmark]

I think the thinker here has no idea what the OP is thinking about.

Great responses to the ops questions, yet they are not valid,

Does anyone smell troll?

So it occurs for you as "I think", if that is so then one could stop thinking, which would be a controller, and more of thought in operation, you see there is no way out of this, you are caught in a trap and you will do everything to escape, much like a chinese thumb lock, the more you try to escape the tighter the confines become. Welcome to your life. And you will hate that this is being pointed out, here comes thought infuriated...

 

[olylifter420]

i really dont get what you are trying to say and im glad for that. what i am thinking of when you say things like those, i think you are wondering why we cannot stop thinking and how everything we do involves thinking no matter what, be conscious thought or unconscious involuntary thoughts, it is always happening and that is what you do not understand.

I think it has everything to do with how we have evolved into what we are today. Without that capability, i think we would have died along time ago cause our species would be too dumb to survive against other stronger, more adapted species of the time.

and, no, the was no "infuriated thought" whatever that meant.

So it occurs for you as "I think", if that is so then one could stop thinking, which would be a controller, and more of thought in operation, you see there is no way out of this, you are caught in a trap and you will do everything to escape, much like a chinese thumb lock, the more you try to escape the tighter the confines become. Welcome to your life. And you will hate that this is being pointed out, here comes thought infuriated...

 

[Landmark]

As per the title of the thread, "what is the nature of division" it is here plainly for everyone to see.