Occupy Mainstreet, HOLY SHIT!

[Meraxes]

good for the 99ers. keep it goin i say. show that hillbilly tea party how its done!

 

[Winter Woman]

It isn't the banks they should be mad at, it's the politicians they should be mad at. The banks can only do what the fools we voted in let them do. They gave them the ability to create this mess, but it was only possible because the senate and congress approved it. Vote ALL of them out of office! Don't riot, please, it doesn't work and it only will make things much worse. It will give the government an opening to be jack booted thugs. Which, of course, Geo. Soros wants.

It shouldn't of been Jobs that died, it should have been Soros.

 

[fdd2blk]

LOL thanks for the laugh Winterwoman.
Fade, I'm not sure how things are in Cali right now, but in Michigan things haven't been good for people, even if employed I imagine that many aren't earning a very good living wage or at least not as good as they've grown accustom to. A couple of my friends moved out to Cali a few years back and even staying with relatives they couldn't make a good go at it, just not the jobs? I'm not saying people couldn't do more for themselves. Are there some lazy people who are reaping what they sow, sure but when you have college grads working 3 shitty part time jobs and struggle to make ends it's a little disparaging.

i don't think you are understanding my point.

 

[420God]

It isn't the banks they should be mad at, it's the politicians they should be mad at. The banks can only do what the fools we voted in let them do. They gave them the ability to create this mess, but it was only possible because the senate and congress approved it. Vote ALL of them out of office! Don't riot, please, it doesn't work and it only will make things much worse. It will give the government an opening to be jack booted thugs. Which, of course, Geo. Soros wants.

It shouldn't of been Jobs that died, it should have been Soros.

Takes too long to get results. Vote one out and another idiot will replace them.

 

[OLDTOM]

This should be global everyone in the world are being treated like slaves by these rich bastards ,time to fight back

 

[Winter Woman]

That's the horrible part is everyone gives up, instead we should just keep the pressure on. It's amazing to see them hustle when 'they' think they're next up.

Takes too long to get results. Vote one out and another idiot will replace them.

 

[420God]

That's the horrible part is everyone gives up, instead we should just keep the pressure on. It's amazing to see them hustle when 'they' think they're next up.

The people feel like their voice isn't being heard and nothing's being done about it.

The system is fucked and it isn't getting any better.

History repeats itself.

 

[Winter Woman]

Please don't confuse the self-made rich man with the sleaze of the big corporate banks and the politicians that are in bed with them.

The self-made man creates jobs and gives other small guys a chance, instead of being locked out of the system. Locked out like the way the senate and congress approve the new 'Invent America' they did give big business the leg up on the small guy here. We should be marching every weekend in DC.

This should be global everyone in the world are being treated like slaves by these rich bastards ,time to fight back

 

[Meraxes]

It isn't the banks they should be mad at, it's the politicians they should be mad at. The banks can only do what the fools we voted in let them do. They gave them the ability to create this mess, but it was only possible because the senate and congress approved it. Vote ALL of them out of office! Don't riot, please, it doesn't work and it only will make things much worse. It will give the government an opening to be jack booted thugs. Which, of course, Geo. Soros wants.

It shouldn't of been Jobs that died, it should have been Soros.

george soros? sounds like glenn beck nonsense to me, and even the self made rich man should have a patriotic duty to the country that gave him those opportunities in the first place. they still thrived under the clinton rates.....

 

[Winter Woman]

The hillbilly tea party never attacked the police. They carried the flag and their children. They protested peacefully. They did it right. imho.

good for the 99ers. keep it goin i say. show that hillbilly tea party how its done!

 

[Winter Woman]

I don't like GB. But, Soros is all over this one and I don't like him either. Your statement sounds just like a factory worker with no education and you're pissed off, because you have 'you didn't get yours' syndrome.

Let me explain why I feel the way I do. I've worked hard all my life starting at the age of 14 cleaning funeral homes (yeah, cleaning around dead people). Then right out of high school I opened up my own cleaning business and worked nights for 10 to 15 hours a night for many years for a better life and extra money for my savings/IRA account.

After that I paid (cash) for my college education. I paid that from the money I earned cleaning at night.

I'm now an inventor. I spent 100k on my first patent and prototype. I risked everything to do it. Did you ever risk anything to make a big break for yourself, I'd say NO, you didn't.

First off, opportunities are earned not given. The opportunities I've had are ones I created for myself using just my brain. The opportunities that you speak of are available to everyone that wants to work for it and take some added risk. I deserve everything I get because I was, as is the American non-socialist way, willing to take that risk because of the payoff at the end. I didn't expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter. The end result was I licensed that patent and an American company is now making that product in the great state of Virginia and 50 people now have jobs because of it.

The government and YOU gave me nothing and now you want more and more. My patriotic duty is to take care of myself and my family and paying my taxes, all of them. I donate $1,000 every Christmas to Goodfellows so every child will have a Christmas and I match that to my church, every fall I donate $500 to the coat fund (run by my church) so children won't be cold in the depths of winter, I pay for my elderly neighbor across the streets snow removal and grass cutting (only adds about $50 more a month). I've paid into the fund for the youth of my church to go to South Africa. I donated materials for Katrina, Charlie and Andrew hurricanes, I could go on. And now you want even more? My patriotic duty is to not be a burden on my country.

I think I've paid my dues.

Edit: I'm not upset, just tired of people thinking that I didn't earn what I have and I should just give it to the government for others to have.

george soros? sounds like glenn beck nonsense to me, and even the self made rich man should have a patriotic duty to the country that gave him those opportunities in the first place. they still thrived under the clinton rates.....

 

[Winter Woman]

Now, if you were speaking about the banks and Senator Dodd and his cohorts. Then yes, I do believe they need to pay for what they did. The politicians and the big banks, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac need to pay. Hold the liars and the cheats feet to the fire.

The protests need to be in DC were the real trouble makers are.

 

[Meraxes]

The hillbilly tea party never attacked the police. They carried the flag and their children. They protested peacefully. They did it right. imho.

yeah peacefully by spitting on any black congressman that walked by and holding up signs with the prez with a bone through his nose, please

 

[Winter Woman]

Not any worse than what I saw on tv today.

Edit: I've been to 'Meet the Candidate' for my state senator and congressman and I didn't see anything even close.

yeah peacefully by spitting on any black congressman that walked by and holding up signs with the prez with a bone through his nose, please

 

[Meraxes]

I don't like GB. But, Soros is all over this one and I don't like him either. Your statement sounds just like a factory worker with no education and you're pissed off, because you have 'you didn't get yours' syndrome.

Let me explain why I feel the way I do. I've worked hard all my life starting at the age of 14 cleaning funeral homes (yeah, cleaning around dead people). Then right out of high school I opened up my own cleaning business and worked nights for 10 to 15 hours a night for many years for a better life and extra money for my savings/IRA account.

After that I paid (cash) for my college education. I paid that from the money I earned cleaning at night.

I'm now an inventor. I spent 100k on my first patent and prototype. I risked everything to do it. Did you ever risk anything to make a big break for yourself, I'd say NO, you didn't.

First off, opportunities are earned not given. The opportunities I've had are ones I created for myself using just my brain. The opportunities that you speak of are available to everyone that wants to work for it and take some added risk. I deserve everything I get because I was, as is the American non-socialist way, willing to take that risk because of the payoff at the end. I didn't expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter. The end result was I licensed that patent and an American company is now making that product in the great state of Virginia and 50 people now have jobs because of it.

The government and YOU gave me nothing and now you want more and more. My patriotic duty is to take care of myself and my family and paying my taxes, all of them. I donate $1,000 every Christmas to Goodfellows so every child will have a Christmas and I match that to my church, every fall I donate $500 to the coat fund (run by my church) so children won't be cold in the depths of winter, I pay for my elderly neighbor across the streets snow removal and grass cutting (only adds about $50 more a month). I've paid into the fund for the youth of my church to go to South Africa. I donated materials for Katrina, Charlie and Andrew hurricanes, I could go on. And now you want even more? My patriotic duty is to not be a burden on my country.

I think I've paid my dues.

Edit: I'm not upset, just tired of people thinking that I didn't earn what I have and I should just give it to the government for others to have.

congrats on your success and you sound like a smart, self made woman. however i would like to see you be as successful in any other country. this "build a fence around yourself" mentality the Fixed News crowd has is a deadly pathogen thats spreading, and frankly i'm afraid for my kids. nice assumption on me being some lowely factory worker though, you just crystalized everything i just said

 

[stumpjumper]

I don't like GB. But, Soros is all over this one and I don't like him either. Your statement sounds just like a factory worker with no education and you're pissed off, because you have 'you didn't get yours' syndrome.

Let me explain why I feel the way I do. I've worked hard all my life starting at the age of 14 cleaning funeral homes (yeah, cleaning around dead people). Then right out of high school I opened up my own cleaning business and worked nights for 10 to 15 hours a night for many years for a better life and extra money for my savings/IRA account.

After that I paid (cash) for my college education. I paid that from the money I earned cleaning at night.

I'm now an inventor. I spent 100k on my first patent and prototype. I risked everything to do it. Did you ever risk anything to make a big break for yourself, I'd say NO, you didn't.

First off, opportunities are earned not given. The opportunities I've had are ones I created for myself using just my brain. The opportunities that you speak of are available to everyone that wants to work for it and take some added risk. I deserve everything I get because I was, as is the American non-socialist way, willing to take that risk because of the payoff at the end. I didn't expect it to be handed to me on a silver platter. The end result was I licensed that patent and an American company is now making that product in the great state of Virginia and 50 people now have jobs because of it.

The government and YOU gave me nothing and now you want more and more. My patriotic duty is to take care of myself and my family and paying my taxes, all of them. I donate $1,000 every Christmas to Goodfellows so every child will have a Christmas and I match that to my church, every fall I donate $500 to the coat fund (run by my church) so children won't be cold in the depths of winter, I pay for my elderly neighbor across the streets snow removal and grass cutting (only adds about $50 more a month). I've paid into the fund for the youth of my church to go to South Africa. I donated materials for Katrina, Charlie and Andrew hurricanes, I could go on. And now you want even more? My patriotic duty is to not be a burden on my country.

I think I've paid my dues.

Edit: I'm not upset, just tired of people thinking that I didn't earn what I have and I should just give it to the government for others to have.

These "opportunities" you speak of, are once was. People can't work and pay their bills and have enough left over to get ahead with anything. Corporations downsize, layoff half the workforce and make the remaining workers do 3x's the amount of work for less pay.

College graduates who once held good jobs are now working 3 part time jobs and struggling, losing their homes etc.

Don't even preach that just because you are "well off" doesn't mean that there isn't a serious problem with our economy. There are no jobs, people are losing their homes, they have no insurance and families are suffering.

But yeah, we're glad you worked hard for what you have. I know a lot of hard working people that lost all they had and it was not any fault of theirs.

 

[Meraxes]

would you have been as successful growing up say, in detroit?, rather than a nice, rural virginia town probably surrounded by all sorts of support? thats the question

 

[Meraxes]

i really hope you keep up with your christmas donations to the poor tho, they certainly need all the help they can get just to get their kids into college at all

 

[Winter Woman]

Stump. I never preached that there wasn't something wrong with our economy-read my post. And I do feel that I have earned what I have.

Those opportunities still exist, you just have to want it badly enough. I know a man who runs a small cleaning company here in Michigan. He took his van loaded with equipment to the east coast and contracted with a city to clean up after the floods. He came home with $250K profit for 4 weeks work. It can be done. You just have to be creative.

Yes, you too, can clean a funeral home or scrap the remains off the walls of a crematory oven for money. Most people won't do it even if it saved their homes. Where did it say that life was fair.

Yes, the economy sucks and I, also, know people who have lost their homes. I do have sympathy for them, I sit next them every Sunday. But these times will not last.

I feel that economic change is in the air and the bankers and their buddies will pay but they will not pay enough. Someone needs to go to jail and the bailouts need to stop.

I'm not rich, I'm just comfortable.

These "opportunities" you speak of, are once was. People can't work and pay their bills and have enough left over to get ahead with anything. Corporations downsize, layoff half the workforce and make the remaining workers do 3x's the amount of work for less pay.

College graduates who once held good jobs are now working 3 part time jobs and struggling, losing their homes etc.

Don't even preach that just because you are "well off" doesn't mean that there isn't a serious problem with our economy. There are no jobs, people are losing their homes, they have no insurance and families are suffering.

But yeah, we're glad you worked hard for what you have. I know a lot of hard working people that lost all they had and it was not any fault of theirs.

 

[Winter Woman]

I have lived my whole life in Michigan. Right here in metro Detroit. You assume way too much.

would you have been as successful growing up say, in detroit?, rather than a nice, rural virginia town probably surrounded by all sorts of support? thats the question