Small Pots to Big. Why not Start Big?

ikeathesofa

ikeathesofa

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A thought I just had about all of the transplanting going on around here.

If transplanting causes stress to the plant and stress is bad. Why not pot the plant in the final container from the start or after it gets into vegetative growth?

Excuse my ignorance, I just can't think of a reason except maybe for the growers piece of mind or laziness.

Ha, I know. Someone will probably post with an intelligent answer and make me look like an ass. Thought I'd ask anyway.
 
thexception

thexception

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u cannot just plant in one pot from the start because such a small seedling cannot be watered properly in a large pot; u cannot guage this, period. now i only transplant once, from party cup to final 3 gallon pots.
 
BBYY

BBYY

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Well if it is a clone, and guaranteed female, then yes start em in large pots.

But soil is expensive, especially premium soil.

If starting from seed, and each seed getting large amounts of soil, and turn out to be nothing but a pile pf pollen and seeded bud, would kinda piss the grower off.

So we start little, pick the best, transplant the best , flower the females....unless of course your dealing with cuttings.
 
billy4479

billy4479

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Well if you pull your a pot bond plant out and look at the roots you well see the roots look heathly and whitle normaly somtimes you cant even see the soil if you break into that root you well find that very little root is in the middle most of them have been collected around the edge of your pot ...im not sure im putting that right so ill some it up your roots take more advantge or the avliable space if you transplant from smaller to bigger pot ..
 
jesco51

jesco51

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I can't post with an intelligent answer but IMO it has to do with your soil retaining moisture.
 
BBYY

BBYY

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billy4479 said:
Well if you pull your a pot bond plant out and look at the roots you well see the roots look heathly and whitle normaly somtimes you cant even see the soil if you break into that root you well find that very little root is in the middle most of them have been collected around the edge of your pot ...im not sure im putting that right so ill some it up your roots take more advantge or the avliable space if you transplant from smaller to bigger pot ..
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This would be blame on a improper mix of soil. Add some additives to keep the soil penetrable all around by the plants roots..
 
ikeathesofa

ikeathesofa

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thexception said:
u cannot just plant in one pot from the start because such a small seedling cannot be watered properly in a large pot; u cannot guage this, period. now i only transplant once, from party cup to final 3 gallon pots.
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Showing my ignorance here, but why can't they be watered properly?

I think your method sounds good to me. I've been planning on only transplanting once, into my three gallon bucket.
 
ikeathesofa

ikeathesofa

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billy4479 said:
Well if you pull your a pot bond plant out and look at the roots you well see the roots look heathly and whitle normaly somtimes you cant even see the soil if you break into that root you well find that very little root is in the middle most of them have been collected around the edge of your pot ...im not sure im putting that right so ill some it up your roots take more advantge or the avliable space if you transplant from smaller to bigger pot ..
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Sounds somewhat reasonable. I wonder if there is another way to make the roots use the space better.
 
ikeathesofa

ikeathesofa

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jesco51 said:
I can't post with an intelligent answer but IMO it has to do with your soil retaining moisture.
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As in it retains too much or too little? How does that relate to the size of the container? The more soil the more moisture retained, I'd imagine, but how does that effect the seedling?
 
ikeathesofa

ikeathesofa

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jesco51 said:
You water your seedling in a party cup till water runs off.. Say you have a seedling in a bucket your guna water it till water runs off?
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So are you saying that it's too much work, or that it hurts the seedling?

I'm kinda leaning towards working more if my seedling has less stress and produces better.
 
Gmz

Gmz

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I did this last grow it did fine.. But this grow i totally fucked up putting my seeds in 5 gallon buckets, will never do it again.
 
jesco51

jesco51

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A seedlings tap root goes down until it hits the bottom of the small container where it then wraps around inside the cup so when you water it the roots get a good amount of water. How can you do that when you have a seedling in a 3 gallon bucket.
 
billy4479

billy4479

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jesco51 said:
A seedlings tap root goes down until it hits the bottom of the small container where it then wraps around inside the cup so when you water it the roots get a good amount of water. How can you do that when you have a seedling in a 3 gallon bucket.
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you should look up monocot vs dicot ganja is a dicot it has a fibrous root system .........NOT A TAP ROOT
 
billy4479

billy4479

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The soil structure goes to shit when you put a small plant in a big pot the whole time you water and there no root yet you compact the soil wear down large particls you end up having to fluff the top with a for hoping that it well bring oxygen back ....Go look at a commercial green house you think if they could cut the labor caost of transplanting and grow a big plant in a big pot with a switch between one or two pots the would ?
 
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