yeah dude! thats perfect, and it has 2 way audio... you can speak thru the camera!! lol
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friendlyfarmer
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Man I don't think anyone on here is planning on stealing anything. But even if they were, you seem to be wishing a little extra evil on them. It seems pretty intuitively obvious that torturing someone would be a bit worse of a wrongdoing than stealing some plants. Don't get me wrong, I fucking hate thieves and think the punishment for theft should be severe, but torture? For a few years? Let's be real here man. Not only is that incredibly fucked up, it's also pretty far-fetched. Also, there is no legitimate heritable trait that governs desire/ability to torture much less one that would be desirable for a long enough period of time to become en-grained in human behavior, MUCH LESS be spread out through all ethnic groups to be applied to people who decide to farm, whether being close descendants of farmers or not. That is just not at all how evolution works, and is completely fucking ridiculous. So please, don't lump all of us in with foundation-less sadists, and if you are this type of person let us know, so we can potentially save someone from being tortured. Otherwise, please keep the evil bullshit out of this forum.
friendlyfarmer
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haha now that is the shit, and changes everything!
Timmy22
Member
I think most people get way too paranoid when they start cultivating. Im not saying you shouldnt take precautions but geez! If your doing it right then NOONE knows about it other than you, the wife and MAYBE the family dog. The best theft prevention is still not letting ANYONE know what your doing, bottomline.
wyteberrywidow
Global
exactly....
tardis
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Is what I described evil? Hell yes. Know what else is evil, stealing from someone something they put their heart and soul into for months. That is much more evil in my opinion. Worse than stealing someones cash.
Am I the type to do this to someone? No, very few people are. However, if someone breaks into my house the best way to ensure my personal saftey would be a bullet in their head as quickly as possible. If someone is willing to break into my house, given the rampant meth problem in my community, I sure as hell am not going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they would be willing to break one law but not cause me or people here personal harm. I'm not saying all farmers are sadists, what I am saying is stealing from a farmer in my mind is as evil as torturing someone. I don't wish harm on anybody, but if someone wants to cause me harm and I did nothing to deserve it, then I absolutly wish the worst evil possible on them.
The same parts of the brain that would justify breaking into someones property to steal from them for personal gain at someone elses expense is the same parts of the brain that justify the worst evils on a man. I personally don't cross anyone unless I have to defend myself. I have respect for other peoples property and I expect the same.
Basically all i'm saying is Be good to your fellow man, or else don't complain when he's worse to you.
meezy4tw
Active Member
I have a terrier thats debarked, but the semi auto 12 gauge paired up with some 12 gauge hollow tip slugs I got back in louisiana are probably good enough. lol
Just imagine shooting a deer with one of those babies. "deer? what deer."
Because if any of you guys out there are like me, then the most frustrating part of hunting is when a deer simply falls down after being shot, and doesn't go flying backwards into the forest. I'm telling you anything I hit with this better pack a lunch, because its going for a ride.
Just imagine shooting a deer with one of those babies. "deer? what deer."
Because if any of you guys out there are like me, then the most frustrating part of hunting is when a deer simply falls down after being shot, and doesn't go flying backwards into the forest. I'm telling you anything I hit with this better pack a lunch, because its going for a ride.
mindphuk
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Anything that can push someone backwards after being shot would push you back just as hard. This guy Newton told me to tell you.
meezy4tw
Active Member
LOL yeah, I don't really know what I was trying to do with that post... truth betold I did my wake n bake about 10 minutes before I wrote that. I try to wake up each day with a good sense of humor
Newton didn't know about gas recharged automatic shotguns.
zem
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make your room self destructing, whenever someone steps in when your not around it detonates and collapses on him. the cops would not know that you were growing and you will be safe hahahaha seriously weed and weapons dont match. keep it secret is rule #1
mindphuk
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Newton didn't have to know about those or anything yet invented when he came up with universal laws of motion, the key here being 'universal.'
Certainly recoil can be redirected but the amount of force that would knock a grown man 3 feet backward is still going to have a major effect on the shooter, even if a small amount of that force can be directed into loading another shell. Stop getting your physics from Hollywood.
friendlyfarmer
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Actually you did lump all farmers in, gave them sadist tendencies, and called it "evolutionary". The quote was, "I don't care what state or country you are in, if you plan on stealing any farmers crop no matter what they grow, do not be at all surprised if you or your children are tortured and butchered at some point along the way in retaliation. By evolunary nature farmers are adapted to torturing and murdering people who go near their stuff."
That does not sound like, "In my mind stealing from a farmer is as evil as torturing someone." It doesn't sound like that b/c that isn't what you said. More importantly, my point about you introducing a great amount of negativity to this forum stands. No one was saying anything about robbing anyone. Your torture comment was irrelevant, and hateful. Stealing anything is low-down, and stealing from farmers is absolutely despicable. But to say that stealing crops and torturing another human being are equal? That is just stupid. No, it's not just "you have your opinion i have mine, we're both right simultaneously." It's just plain absurd; without a bit of support. I'm a farmer. My whole family has farmed for more than a century, but if you asked any of us which we'd rather have done to us, theft of torture, I don't think there would be half of a second of hesitation before we answer theft.
In fact, ask any human being on the planet. Save unstable and dishonest answers, it's pretty obvious what the answer would be.
"Putting a bullet in their head as quickly as possible," while dramatic and probably an imitation of cinimatics, is hardly the safest thing for you, since you will rightfully be thrown in jail. I can think of, oh, at least 100 better ways off the top of my head as long as you don't blow it off for disagreeing with you. Now a couple to the chest if they are facing you and you've identified them as a threat, then yes. But come on man, be real.
"Not going to give them the benefit of the doubt that if they would be willing to break one law but not cause me personal harm".....really? Coming from a marijuana user I'd think you wouldn't say something so ignorant. If I drive over to Nevada, and spark up a joint in violation of state law, does that means you have something to fear from me? No. Granted, breaking into a house is a little different, but still, I know that you would expect that courtesy from others, which means that was just another lame attempt to justify saying you would kill someone without hesitation. I don't think you would actually be able to do that, but if you would, you have no business possessing a firearm. First most important rule to shooting, "every gun is always loaded, always." Second most important, "Know what you are shooting at before you shoot."
Furthermore, there are no parts in the brain that do that. You just keep making generalized pseudo-scientific statements that most people probably don't dispute because they dont care/know any better. At any rate, you are pulling bullshit out of nowhere to say some pretty harsh things that I doubt very many people enjoy reading. You aren't saying anything helpful, and most of it is either false, or overly dramatic. Please stop. It does not help anyone, it's extremely negative and very senselessly violent. God-forbid someone actually take what you are saying to heart. Seriously.
friendlyfarmer
Active Member
i say you get a dozen or so killer rabid baboons and starve them for a couple of weeks before you head out of town. you would still want to get the cameras for inside though. with the 2-way, you could give the killer apes commands! oh the possibilities are...well not endless, but something like that.
smokey2117
Member
Have you ever even fired a shotgun? Your logic leads me to think that you have not. A hollow point slug in a 12 gauge would definitely knock a grown man off his feet... and no, a 12 gauge will not put you on your ass unless you're in an unbalanced stance and you're not very heavy.
mindphuk
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Yes, I've fired many weapons. Define what you mean by "knock off his feet" because yes, it certainly can cause someone to lose his balance, stumble and fall back on his ass but it will not be enough to lift him off the ground, let alone knock him a few feet backwards a la Hollywood. The shape of the slug, hollow tip or not, has no added effect, it only affects the wound track.
KronDonSmoker
Active Member
I plan on getting something like this not really for if im not home but when Im home and if someone comes to the door since i live On the 2nd floor of a 3 family home. Pop the camera outside of my window facing the door and know wheather its my cousin or the po po breaking down my door