Roots Above Ground

Uncle Ben

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Having used this technique for the last 6 years, and having not read high times since the second issue, I believe calling this technique a bad idea is - well, a bad idea. I originally started to step transplanted root balls to give the tap roots more room to stretch. The result is a solid bud ball that fills the second pot. The plants grow well and the harvest weight is acceptable, so I would call it a success - not a bad idea.
Apples and oranges. Your issue is one of using too small a pot. Simple - use a larger pot.

Setting the rootball high when upcanning aint gonna do a thing but harden off and dessicate the exposed roots. Your goal (should be) to increase the root mass, not decrease it. One method is root tip termination via chemical or air pruning means, such as this: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/9114-spin-out-chemical-root-pruning.html Give me a scientific explanation regarding the botanical benefits of raising the rootball and I may buy into it. I won't buy into forum anecodotal evidence, member parroting, popular opinion, personal feelings, etc.

There are varying degrees of success. One's wonderful yeild of popcorn buds may be another's huge disappointment.

UB
 

Magnificient

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I worked at a nursery when I was a kid. We had a saying, plant it high, it won't die, plant it low and it won't grow. That's true for most nursery plants, but not especially true for plants like marijuana and tomatoes. It's usually better to plant the roots and a little bit of the stem.
 

Uncle Ben

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I worked at a nursery when I was a kid. We had a saying, plant it high, it won't die, plant it low and it won't grow. That's true for most nursery plants, but not especially true for plants like marijuana and tomatoes. It's usually better to plant the roots and a little bit of the stem.
Perenials versus annuals, reason why I made that distinction.
 

anomolies

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I think it really doesn't matter. I have plants that naturally do this. If the roots are exposed they harden and thicken. If stems are partially buried they start growing roots.

I wish people would spend more time doing controlled experiments to test things like this and come back with the results (aka pictures, proof)
rather than starting pointless threads that go no where.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I think it really doesn't matter. I have plants that naturally do this. If the roots are exposed they harden and thicken. If stems are partially buried they start growing roots.

I wish people would spend more time doing controlled experiments to test things like this and come back with the results (aka pictures, proof)
rather than starting pointless threads that go no where.
It doesnt go nowhere....
You take every jerk-offs opinion for what its worth, evaluate all the little opinions and answers to your question or thread, and you decide what you believe.
You know what they say about opinions and assholes..

Now im just gonna go down to my spare laboratory and start my controlled experiments.. that I have..
 

anomolies

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It doesnt go nowhere....
You take every jerk-offs opinion for what its worth, evaluate all the little opinions and answers to your question or thread, and you decide what you believe.
You know what they say about opinions and assholes..

Now im just gonna go down to my spare laboratory and start my controlled experiments.. that I have..
all you need to do is do this method on a couple plants, and compare it with the ones which you didn't do anything with the roots... jerkoff... just kiddin :p
 

Uncle Ben

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I think it really doesn't matter. I have plants that naturally do this. If the roots are exposed they harden and thicken. If stems are partially buried they start growing roots.
You made my point. In general, higher amounts of root mass (and leaves) = higher yields. I don't know why folks get all worked up about bud production when they should be focused ONLY on good root and foliage production/maintenance. Time to think outside of the box folks!

I think some may get confused because of popular tree planting guides where it is believed that planting a little too high will not be harmful but planting deep will not only reduce vigor but may kill it. Your call.....

I'm beginning to think there are no tomato growers here. I have taken a tall tomato seedling, dug a 2" deep trench, laid about 8" of the trunk in the trench with the little rootball, covered with soil and later inspected the root system come frost. Needless to say, there is a huge flush of roots along the buried stem. As an aside, my caged tomato plants are now a wimpy 7' tall and 6' wide. ;)

Stay rooted in common sense,
UB
 

jewgrow

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My most successful transplant: Dads castings have tomato seeds. So next to the sunflowers a nice 9" tomato plant went about unseen until I decided to rip it out. I ripped it out quite perfectly and felt bad so i decided to just plant the thing in the ground. Those are gonna be my late tomatoes 8)
 

genisis

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You know, this is one of the reasons I hesitate to respond to posts here. When you do respond - with real life cannabis growing experience - to try to help someone out, you get lessons in technical speak about growing tomatoes. You also tend to get snarky comments like, "One's wonderful yeild of popcorn buds may be another's huge disappointment."
Although I do not know what a yeild is, I sure can recognize an attempted put down when I read one. So I feel all chastised now, and am on my way to my garden, to tell my plants how stupid they are - for not being tomatoes.
 

Uncle Ben

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You know, this is one of the reasons I hesitate to respond to posts here. When you do respond - with real life cannabis growing experience - to try to help someone out, you get lessons in technical speak about growing tomatoes. You also tend to get snarky comments like, "One's wonderful yeild of popcorn buds may be another's huge disappointment."
Although I do not know what a yeild is, I sure can recognize an attempted put down when I read one. So I feel all chastised now, and am on my way to my garden, to tell my plants how stupid they are - for not being tomatoes.
Sounds like someone has a bean up his butt hehe.
 

jewgrow

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You know, this is one of the reasons I hesitate to respond to posts here. When you do respond - with real life cannabis growing experience - to try to help someone out, you get lessons in technical speak about growing tomatoes. You also tend to get snarky comments like, "One's wonderful yeild of popcorn buds may be another's huge disappointment."
Although I do not know what a yeild is, I sure can recognize an attempted put down when I read one. So I feel all chastised now, and am on my way to my garden, to tell my plants how stupid they are - for not being tomatoes.

I'm sorry...did you say you don't know what a yield is...?
 

littleflavio

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my cheese is doing these by itself...theres nothing i can do but to pile soil on top of it, but whenever i water eventually the soil will run-off...i guess its just normal if you ask me, cant fight mother nature. anyways my cheese use to look lame, now it kinda gets bushy. for some reason i dont know if that helps or its just maturing into flowering...other than that it doesnt really damage ur plant. oh btw im planting on the ground
 

rsharp

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You know, this is one of the reasons I hesitate to respond to posts here. When you do respond - with real life cannabis growing experience - to try to help someone out, you get lessons in technical speak about growing tomatoes. You also tend to get snarky comments like, "One's wonderful yeild of popcorn buds may be another's huge disappointment."
Although I do not know what a yeild is, I sure can recognize an attempted put down when I read one. So I feel all chastised now, and am on my way to my garden, to tell my plants how stupid they are - for not being tomatoes.

WOW, i dont post i would much rather read. ive done a lot of reading on this site and 90% of it is ignorance. ignorance comming from ignorant growers. I am no fanboy i just like the facts. One person that knows their facts is Uncle Ben. if u take someones info over Uncle Bens then you just need to stop growing b/cyour not gonna get anywhere. i finally got tired of hearing non-sence posts. come on now. you dont make any sence. if you dont know what a yield is then your behind me. you deff. dont need to post anything. read up buddy! read up!
 

Magnificient

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You know, this is one of the reasons I hesitate to respond to posts here. When you do respond - with real life cannabis growing experience - to try to help someone out, you get lessons in technical speak about growing tomatoes. You also tend to get snarky comments like, "One's wonderful yeild of popcorn buds may be another's huge disappointment."
Although I do not know what a yeild is, I sure can recognize an attempted put down when I read one. So I feel all chastised now, and am on my way to my garden, to tell my plants how stupid they are - for not being tomatoes.
If you can grow a tomato, you can grow marijuana. Don't know what your problem is man, but it's all about growing.
 

Kevdogg5555

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interesting because i have a topped plant right now and when i transplanted i messed up and had the main top roots sticking out. Its been over two months roots have been exposed to sun and have turned a greenish tint. They dont look like the healthiest roots by this sucker has the massive buds with lots of weight and the plant over it doing good
 

Noobmeister

Active Member
If anybody has a bean up their ass it's Uncle Ben. I guess he didn't fry his rice right. Buddy is asking for help and you come out all high and mighty right away with blockhead comments and pretty insulting at that. This form RIU, is for people to learn and for people to practice new techniques or other ideas that other people have suggested or even that one has considered or discovered on their own. It's not for cutting people up, telling them how stupid they are, or making ignorant ass remarks. Yes, it's not logical that pulling the roots out would help the plant in any way, and frankly I agree with you, Uncle Ben, but this is a pot form, not a heroin addiction form, so there is no need for snap comments and rude remarks.

Stay happy - learn to grow, teach to grow, and just fucking grow!
 

ghb

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Your intelligence and lack of ignorance astounds me! Take that STFU out of your ass and stick it up your nose!
you got them the wrong way round i think, but i agree, always with the high and mighty i know everything, you are wrong bullsh*t
 

Rollbluntz

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This kind of is happening to me. Whats weird though is a sprout of some kind is coming from exposed roots. It looks just like a seedling but this is just a main stalk. When I lst'd this plant it pulled it up a little bit because I was stoned and didn't tie the countertie right. Anyone ever seen this shit before?
 

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