** mythbusters **

[jberry]

Purely BS..."flushing" a plant is botanically impossible...just washing salts out of the soil...Is a make me feel better because "I dont want to smoke chemicals as they are bad for you"

WELL I WANNA SMOKE CHEMICALS...IT IS THE CHEMICALS THAT GET ME HIGH!!

Seriously though, trim really well, dry slowly, and it will taste great. Only flush if you wanna smoke your soil...then it may help

Namaste'

"A state licensed personal medical grow...Thank you"

Impressive stuff...

Based on all your genius posts, it is obvious that you must really know your botany and have decades of experience along with some credentials of some sort!

Tell us more about yourself, I'm here to learn.... Teach me!

Namaste'

 

[jberry]

Super Leb, the only reason I am on a thread like this is because you asked me to come weigh in, but I've never come accross soo many idiots in one thread... Sorry bro but I'm done here... Too many kids playing with their keyboards and cfl lights.

I make a living doing this... When all these fools are getting paid and praised then they can come talk to me...

 

[Illumination]

Super Leb, the only reason I am on a thread like this is because you asked me to come weigh in, but I've never come accross soo many idiots in one thread... Sorry bro but I'm done here... Too many kids playing with their keyboards and cfl lights.

I make a living doing this... When all these fools are getting paid and praised then they can come talk to me...

I am so sorry that your perception of my lack of intelligence is bothersome to you...Apologies and sorry to have wasted your precious time by pointing out how intelligent you are which was not reflected by your words.

As for me I am retired and used to do this for a living:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRB_DhKQUdQ

I was the bass player, so money I have plenty. Also have a bachelor's degree in chemistry as well. I can synthesize thc delta 9 in a laboratory from essentially no more than carbon manipulation. I say I can because I have and it is how I truly know how psychedelic "weed" can be. Been around the world and never have smoked anything as intense as the synthetic. I chose to grow this wonderful plant to enjoy the process of growing and to grow myself as well in the process, not to milk it for financial gain kind sir. So again apologies for having offended you with my lack of intelligence. You cannot be trying to learn anything as your words express your belief that you know everything.

And as for my grow with cfl's. I am quite proud of my efforts and again I apologize for being inferior to you and not having spent thousands of dollars to do so. I hope that I have not offended you by the compliment on how intelligent you are. I apologize to you for not being as awesome as you are and hope you can accept it as it troubles me that I offended you.

And please smoke some of that best weed in the world that you grow so you can chill out and not be so offended when an idiot such as myself comments on your words.

Namaste'

"A state licensed personal medical grow...Thank you"

 

[jberry]

Nice link, I am impressed... Serioiusly though, you must be rich !

I saw your plants and your posts and you're right... you are wasting everyone's time by even having a opinion about anything concerning growing cannabis...

I am learning everyday, but not from you or other people that have just recently jumped on the bandwagon... You have strong opinions and yet you have no experience.

Just as you have no experience with growing or botany, I have no experience or knowledge of the Bass and that's why I have the respect and common sense not to go on the 'Bass Player Forums' just to put my foot in my mouth and start telling you how to correctly play the Bass...

Do yourself a favor and don't try to regurgitate the garbage you think you have learned.

 

[Illumination]

Nice link, I am impressed... Serioiusly though, you must be rich !

I saw your plants and your posts and you're right... you are wasting everyone's time by even having a opinion about anything concerning growing cannabis...

I am learning everyday, but not from you or other people that have just recently jumped on the bandwagon... You have strong opinions and yet you have no experience.

Just as you have no experience with growing or botany, I have no experience or knowledge of the Bass and that's why I have the respect and common sense not to go on the 'Bass Player Forums' just to put my foot in my mouth and start telling you how to correctly play the Bass...

Do yourself a favor and don't try to regurgitate the garbage you think you have learned.

Do yourself a favor and try to realize that you are not perfect and in fact are wrong and do not know everything. If I am wrong as you assert then you give scientific proof that flushing the soil removes anything from the plant and I will concede. You will not because it isn't true. Now go on and sit on your high horse and judge me some more. Thusfar your perception of me I have proved you wrong on. Now your turn. Prove I am wrong Ganja Grower God....

Have an awesome existence friend


Still waiting.....

Namaste'

 

[jberry]

It's really simple... since you have never grown, you know nothing... I have nothing to prove to you, do your own research.

 

[Illumination]

It's really simple... since you have never grown, you know nothing... I have nothing to prove to you, do your own research.

I have sir and that is how I know you are wrong about flushing. You assume way too much. Just because I am growing in this small and cost efficient manner does not mean I have not grown before. As as you said I have nothing to prove to you as I realize it is impossible to prove anything to one who thinks he knows everything. You are running from my request for proof out of fear that you are incorrect and that can not be as you know everything and have nothing left to receive. And with that mentality nothing to give. So you are correct and no longer do I want to waste time with someone who is a legend in their own mind. And only there.

Have an awesome existence my friend,
I hope one day you will grow yourself and not just some weeds...

Namaste'

 

[jberry]

Cry me a fuckin river buddy... I've helped soo many people on this site and I am usually nice and helpful and many will back me on that... You came in here talking shit when you have no skills and are obviously still learning the basics.

 

[mouthmeetsoap]

I'm with jberry. Illumination lost me when he was talking about his band and having money from that band, then "Also", and "as well" in the same sentence. Decision goes to jberry.

Illumination, I can duplicate your bass lines after a listen through. How many albums did your band sell?

 

[jberry]

oh my, i am seriously laughing my ass off... mouth holds no punches!
not a lot of people want to get involved in this sorta thing lol... Now i almost feel bad for the guy...

Namaste

 

[gobbly]

I'm not saying it isn't a popular myth! I've heard everyone repeat this as if it had actually happened to somebody at some point. What i'm saying is, I've never heard of these "Hotspots" actually happening to anybody's grow-op - have you?

I may not be the last word in explaining scientific phenomina, but it seems to me that a great deal of crinkled foil would be required and most of the "crinkles" would have to be focused on the exact same point (and that's with no air circulation waving things around). I'm saying that it is so highly unlikely that it would be hard to do if you wanted to do it on purpose. I may be wrong, but I still say "It's never happened to anybody - ever!".

There are lots of good reasons not to use aluminum foil as a reflective surface ( I just don't believe "Hotspots" is a legitimate one!) - and on top of that "Why take the chance - who needs hot spots?"

We kinda went over this in another myth thread. the consensus was pretty much that it is 'possible' under very specific situations, but you might as well spend your time building tinfoil hats to keep the government out of your thoughts, as the odds are going to be pretty slim. It sucks as a reflector, so you would need a very high powered light; and the chances of creating the perfect shape, lets just say you have a better chance of winning the powerball... anyway, whether you call it a myth or not is more a matter of semantics. wouldn't be surprised if it happened once, but the other day huge bags of pot fell out of the sky onto some homes in texas, I still wouldn't count on any free pot from the heavens myself

 

[Illumination]

I'm with jberry. Illumination lost me when he was talking about his band and having money from that band, then "Also", and "as well" in the same sentence. Decision goes to jberry.

Illumination, I can duplicate your bass lines after a listen through. How many albums did your band sell?

600,000 copies on Shake your soul

350,000 copies Lights out on the playground

And how many have you sold?

Excuse me, I did not know that you are the bass god. And jberry the grow god. I humbly offer my apologies to you both for my offenses.

Apologies if my simple bass lines offend you.

All I said was flushing does nothing and he became arrogant talking as though he is superior but never backed up his flushing with anything but mentioning how he gets paid. I do not care what anyone thinks of my carrer. I am happy and enjoy my life. Was just showing how I earned mine since he alleges he gets paid for what he does. Also I apologize for the grammar mistakes. Chemistry degree not language. With that said I bid you farewell and hope all is well in your existence.

Namaste'

 

[gobbly]

California veterinarian Joseph Humble tells L.A. Times reporter Andrew Strickler that “Some people may enjoy pot, but I assure you dogs do not.” According to Strickler:

The plant’s effect on canines is considerably less benign. Even a few grams can cause staggering, vomiting, urinary incontinence and, in severe cases, seizures and coma. ​

For those who want to learn more about the dangers, a toxicology study published in Veterinary Medicine (June 2002) details the clinical signs, toxicity, and potential treatment of dogs who ingest marijuana. At the time the study was written by Caroline W. Donaldson, DVM, out of some 250 marijuana ingestion cases reported to the ASPCA, two animals had died.

You sure this wasn't uncooked? Anyone eating uncooked marijuana runs a very high risk of staggering, vomiting, and urinary incontinence (though I'm not aware of coma type issues). Uncooked it contains large cellular structures (think silicate based, not sure the name) which will cause major digestion issues. It is common for vets to get animals who ate n owners stash, usually common enough that they can tell. My sister-in-law is a vet tech and said it happens all the time, and all they can do is wait for it to pass and make the animal comfortable. I have seen a multitude of dogs steal cookies, brownies, and other things we have baked pot into and I have never seen any negative reactions. I suspect it runs the gamut from animals who like it, and those who don't...

 

[jberry]

im sure it was uncooked

 

[gobbly]

im sure it was uncooked

cool, figured that was the case. Good article couldn't quite tell because it sounded like half was accidental dosages, and the other half talked about giving what sounded like more concentrated or possibly synthetic compounds. 3.6g/kg of pure thc sounds like a lot! hehe

 

[BL0TT0]

There's a myth I hear a long time ago about dunking your freshly uprooted plants roots in boiling hot water to "force the THC to the buds".
I am not too sure about this one.

Also, have heard that snorting Kif will get you rally messed up?

Anyone else heard of these? Anyone debunked, or proven these?

 

[jberry]

SuperLebs the man!

Just to clear things up for everyone else.... The reason I flush is really simple... By flushing the medium and removing the minerals you have cut off the plants food supply which forces the plant to use up it's stored nutrients and it becomes mineral deficient and faded. The reason you want the plant to become deficient of minerals is because you are going to be smoking it, not eating it. The THC and Terpenes are the only ingredients you really want to be smoking, everything else is just the junk going into your lungs for no reason. With a food crop of vegetables it would be the exact opposite, because your eating it the minerals are desirable for human consumption... Thats why flushing is not common in other types of crops.

A side by side test of one flushed plant and one unflushed plant will quickly show how the flushed plant fades in color and shows deficiencies while the unflushed plant stays green. Some growers will argue that the flush will effect yield or even oil production which is probably true for soil grows since you have to flush soil for much longer then other mediums... Thats why I and many other modern growers prefere hydro/coco/soiless mediums for our grows because they flush very quickly and you can wait until the last minute to flush without effecting yield. The stress from the last minute flush actually increases oil production and helps with any final ripining if needed.

Yes it is for some reason semi controversial but most have done their own tests and can be their own judge of what is working or not... I can find known respected professionals and bussinesses that all back the flushing method, from the seedbanks over seas, to the breeders, to the medical collectives, to the best selling books, ect ect ect, all agree that you should flush if you plan on smoking the end product.

If you dont agree, then fine, post your info about why you think it doesnt work or whatever, but im not going to respond anymore and I'm not arguing with anyone about it anymore... I've stated my reasons and have nothing else to say unless your a friend and want to contact me through PM.

Dont be afraid of the fade.

 

[gobbly]

SuperLebs the man!

Just to clear things up for everyone else.... The reason I flush is really simple... By flushing the medium and removing the minerals you have cut off the plants food supply which forces the plant to use up it's stored nutrients and it becomes mineral deficient and faded. The reason you want the plant to become deficient of minerals is because you are going to be smoking it, not eating it. The THC and Terpenes are the only ingredients you really want to be smoking, everything else is just the junk going into your lungs for no reason. With a food crop of vegetables it would be the exact opposite, because your eating it the minerals are desirable for human consumption... Thats why flushing is not common in other types of crops.

A side by side test of one flushed plant and one unflushed plant will quickly show how the flushed plant fades in color and shows deficiencies while the unflushed plant stays green. Some growers will argue that the flush will effect yield or even oil production which is probably true for soil grows since you have to flush soil for much longer then other mediums... Thats why I and many other modern growers prefere hydro/coco/soiless mediums for our grows because they flush very quickly and you can wait until the last minute to flush without effecting yield. The stress from the last minute flush actually increases oil production and helps with any final ripining if needed.

Yes it is for some reason semi controversial but most have done their own tests and can be their own judge of what is working or not... I can find known respected professionals and bussinesses that all back the flushing method, from the seedbanks over seas, to the breeders, to the medical collectives, to the best selling books, ect ect ect, all agree that you should flush if you plan on smoking the end product.

If you dont agree, then fine, post your info about why you think it doesnt work or whatever, but im not going to respond anymore and I'm not arguing with anyone about it anymore... I've stated my reasons and have nothing else to say unless your a friend and want to contact me through PM.

Dont be afraid of the fade.

+1

the plant has plenty of reserves to make it through. If you just happen to like the taste of the fertz, then more power too you, but most people's experience is that you flush and cure it to minimize the carbon/fert taste.

 

[SuperLeb]

I embrace the FADE !!!

Anyways - Im back with a new Myth that needs busting!

SUGAR and PK ?

Ive just read that Jorge reckons if you want big buds give your plants eight weeks of PK and 3 Tablespoons of Sugar... its a bit late for me to try this now..

Has anyone had experience of this? Does it Work ?

If it works I might put the Canna Boost to bed as its costing me an arm and leg!

SuperLeb....

 

[Spanishfly]

One of my "favorite" myths is "Aluminum Foil causes hotspots", what a load of crap! I've said it before and I'll say it again - "Nobody has ever suffered from hotspots caused by using aluminum foil as a reflective material!".

It's a virtual impossibility - it would have to be like a ten billion-to-one, odds, coincidence. Besides, foil sucks as a reflective material anyway - it only has an index of something like 40%.

I keep trying to debunk that Old Wives´Tale myself.