Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

RockstarEnergy

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Many things will kill caterpillars. But they can also kill any beneficials, as well.

Bt is preferable because it attacks ONLY caterpillars and is almost 100% effective.
ok thanks veggie! do you know any good brands to buy? i was looking a Safer Brand caterpiller. it says it has BT in it but i dont really know what to look for.
 

Cali chronic

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Here this may help it is like a Hormone as mentioned before---not a hormone---Like a Hormone---Safe to use---and does burn off with sunshine
Ughhhh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_thuringiensis
There you will find on that a page a link for bacterium. I was referencing the Bible and I may have read someones reference to safety of the bacteria like a yeast. But all in all with out Nit picking --- but expect nothing less veggie--- true it is not a hormone. Like a Hormone because it interrupts breeding too. I think it will help those trying to battle infestation currently. Pyrythium is more like a flash bang it disorientates knocks em down but older stuff will get back up. so to knock em down shake em off and then B.T em I guess would be the order to use it.

Now if 7thtoker would elaborate on the theory or why worm castings in his soil for life will or how much ??
 

Shredder111

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How can you guys use those nasty ass chemicals on your plants? If I used shit like that, I wouldn't even smoke them! It's just not worth the health risk. Why not try some organic methods u big silly gooses!? :D
 

ChemoBoy

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Including gasoline?
Yeah, I'm getting great results with gasoline. :weed: Just spray that shit on and I have NO plant problems after that...well, after they die anyway.

How can you guys use those nasty ass chemicals on your plants? If I used shit like that, I wouldn't even smoke them! It's just not worth the health risk. Why not try some organic methods u big silly gooses!? :D
BT is bacteria. How is that less "organic" than, say, AzaMax or even coriander oil?
 

veggiegardener

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Yeah, I'm getting great results with gasoline. :weed: Just spray that shit on and I have NO plant problems after that...well, after they die anyway.



BT is bacteria. How is that less "organic" than, say, AzaMax or even coriander oil?
Sorry, once in a while I can't resist. I'm figuring there was an "n't" missing.

Regarding Bt, agreed, it doesn't get any more organic unless you enjoy smoking mold! (There's nothing more "organic" than fungi.)
 

JoeCa1i

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Yeh would'nt spray anything on them.The only thing I spray is a low dose neem spray,until the 10th day of 12/12,then I hit them with my homemade bloom spray(organic)a couple times.Then I spray them with water on week 3 1/2,after that no more sprays.Might be different for hazes,or strains with longer flowering times.
 

veggiegardener

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I saw my first Skipper butterfly this morning. I put together a foliar spray that included Bt, soluble NPK, epsom salts, Superthrive, Cytozyme foliar, and Seaweed emulsion. The ingredients vary, depending on what I have at the moment. I take care not to make the foliar solution too strong. On two occasions I've burned leaves with it. Nothing disastrous, but unsightly for a couple weeks.

I used to add a lot of fish emulsion to that mix, but my wife complained that it made the weed take on a strong menthol flavor. I didn't see the down side, but she didn't like it.
 

ChemoBoy

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VG, I know you must have mentioned this before but I can't find it. Did you say you spray BT right up to 2 days before harvest?

Thanks!
 

pabloesqobar

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Not surprisingly, I woke up the other day and upon inspection found several little moth eggs on one of my plants. I removed all of them and sprayed with BT. The plants I sprayed have about 2 weeks until harvest.

Since I grow autos (which the exception of 1 Kandy Kush) I looked for a lightweight material to use as a screen. The "pest screen" material at Lowe's wouldn't have worked because the holes were too big. So I wandered around and found this sheer material that should work great. It's some kind of curtain. Cost $10.00 at Lowe's, but I bet you could find the same type of thing at Target/Walmart/Drugstore for less.

I lashed some skewers together to make them longer, stuck them in the dirt on each side of the plant, cut a square of the material and draped it over. I think this should work. I'll drape these over the plants in the evening, and remove in the morning. There was plenty of material in that one package to make one for each plant.
 

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veggiegardener

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Not surprisingly, I woke up the other day and upon inspection found several little moth eggs on one of my plants. I removed all of them and sprayed with BT. The plants I sprayed have about 2 weeks until harvest.

Since I grow autos (which the exception of 1 Kandy Kush) I looked for a lightweight material to use as a screen. The "pest screen" material at Lowe's wouldn't have worked because the holes were too big. So I wandered around and found this sheer material that should work great. It's some kind of curtain. Cost $10.00 at Lowe's, but I bet you could find the same type of thing at Target/Walmart/Drugstore for less.

I lashed some skewers together to make them longer, stuck them in the dirt on each side of the plant, cut a square of the material and draped it over. I think this should work. I'll drape these over the plants in the evening, and remove in the morning. There was plenty of material in that one package to make one for each plant.
I like your idea!
 

Wordz

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So i went to the spot yesterday and I noticed on 3 plants the little bastards have bored into some stems. FUCK FUCK FUCk. All i had to spray with is neem. do i need to take the stalk off that's been invaded? will the bt kill them up inside the stem? there are little white moths on the plants and they just jump off when they get sprayed with neem and then jump right back on. also should I sevin dust the area?
 

veggiegardener

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We don't get borers locally. I'd leave the stem but apply Bt to the holes and the entire plant.

The tiny white moths are white flies. Ladybugs will eat their eggs, but if you have a lot of them, try neem oil or insecticidal soap to knock down their numbers.
 

ChemoBoy

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No.

My last application is usually about two or three weeks before harvest. After that, I wash the girls down a couple times on warm sunny mornings to allow time for the buds to dry out.
Thanks. Is the washing down to get rid of the BT or to wash away eggs or worms or what?
 
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