Spider Mite Control

captiankush

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azatrol works like a charm, on my outdoor girls get mites every summer and I win the war before they start flowering, how...Azatrol.

CK
 

olscratchy

Active Member
I Just found mites in my garden, I run a perpetual harvest dwc system, so I have many stages of flowering, How do I get Rid of Them, I dont want to Have to start all over!! How late in the cycle can I spray the plants and still be safe to smoke? I have ORGANICIDE it's sesame oil,edible fish oil,& water, If I have to sacrifice a few girls I will but I'd rather not. Thanks In advance for any help
 

NewGrowth

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I Just found mites in my garden, I run a perpetual harvest dwc system, so I have many stages of flowering, How do I get Rid of Them, I dont want to Have to start all over!! How late in the cycle can I spray the plants and still be safe to smoke? I have ORGANICIDE it's sesame oil,edible fish oil,& water, If I have to sacrifice a few girls I will but I'd rather not. Thanks In advance for any help
Best bet is to try and eliminate them in your veg area and use organic controls in your flower room. I would get rid of any plants that are heavily infested ASAP.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Spider mites SUCK! If you have them on one plant chances are they are on all of them. So very small and difficult to see unless you use a loupe or magnifier(at least for me anyways). I had one harvest *almost* get ruined by the critters and then I fought back with technology...and won! I did not want to use and chemicals on my ladies so close to harvest, and ended up using...STEAM!:fire:

Bought a Rowenta steamer from Bed Bath &Way Beyond and it worked like a charm! Best way is to do this somewhat *safely* is to water your plants, wait an hour and then hit the plants EVERYWHERE with the steam. You cannot concentrate the steam in any one area for too long or you'll cook the poor plant!:leaf: The neat thing about this is the temperature. The mites simply crumble and die as soon as the hot steam hits them! Again you HAVE to be careful or you'll cause more harm than good, but if you pay attention to what your doing, you can do this! After you have hit all areas thoroughly, let your ladies rest for 1-2 days then hit em again. The live mites die easily but the eggs may still hatch (nasty things). If you cannot control the mites after 3 steam treatments, you should abandon ship and chop em down, sorry.:-( Good luck and let us know how you faired in this time of crisis. ;)
 

bluetick

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Wow, never heard of steam before but seems like a brilliant idea. The one time I got them it was a bitch! I first used a vacuum hose and sucked all of the leaves of the plant first before spraying them down with some sprays, which worked temporarily. They came back shortly there after ( 1 week) and then got an organic bomb to spray in there after clipping off the tab so I could just manually spray. That worked, temporarily. Next time they came back I chopped the fuckers down even though they wern't ready. I spent 2 hours each time I went in there to try and get rid of them in that heat and won't do it again. If there is ever a problem again with those fuckers I will no doubt get some predatory mites to put in there. I don't have the names of them in front of me but there are two types that work well. One will die after it eats all of the mites and eggs and the other type will stick around for a while even if there are no mites. They will eventually begin to eat themselves.

Save yourself some trouble and time and get some predatory mites. They are expensive but a small price to pay considering.
 

olscratchy

Active Member
Alright, I appreciate all the help & I am going to start my assault with all of your ideas, I ordered predator mites (Phytoseiulus persimilis), & I am going to buy a steamer this afternoon, I also ordered Floramite for the veg room ( I havent seen them in there but I want to be sure !) I see that you should release the predators over a period of a few weeks, can they be stored? or do you have to keep buyin more every week?,Thanks Again, will keep you posted with results
 

bluetick

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You'll have to ask the company about storage of those things. I didn't use them before but if I ever grow again and get them I'm for sure using them instead of the alternative. The best prevention from my understanding is to make sure that you and everything you take into the room is clean. If you have been in the yard working or outside a lot that day then you probably brought them in there in the first place. They have to get in there somehow.
 

po'thead

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after about 2 weeks of using neem oil concentrate, I have severely cut back or eliminated the mites. I'm not sure which, but I haven't seen any at all. I'm gonna keep spraying them every week though just to be sure.
 

skoobie dew

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Does anyone know if pyrethrum will harm cats? I'm planning on trying the pyrethrum bomb next.
Pyrethrum is HIGHLY TOXIC TO CATS!

Regarding the rest of this very good thread:

I didn't hear anything about Stirrup M. Stirrup M is an excellent product. It will get the mites to move around and eat on different parts of a plant/grow room. If you can't get 100% coverage with either avid or florimite, and have mites all over your room, then try it.

I don't believe avid is systemic, I think it is translinear (will affect both sides of a leaf if sprayed on only one side.) I have seen spider mites that are resistant to avid. Avid is for use on ornamentals only. Growers usually ignore this.

IMHO Florimite sc works at least as well as avid. It's expensive but 3 mil per gallon gives you a solid 21 days protection on treated tisue.(new growth is not treated tissue).

For complete eradication you have to treat your plants every 7 days with something new, or treat everything that comes into your grow room twice, or both.

I grow indoors. If you are growing outdoors then the following doesn't apply:

When I have a new mother come into my space I isolate it for over a month. First I dip the entire plant into florimite. Seven days later I use azatrol. Then seven days later florimite again(at this time I sometimes have to spray the plant). Seven days later azatrol again. Another week and I use pylon. Then again with the florimite. At this point I am certain that I have no mites and take the new happy mother to my mother room.

Spider mites are a bitch to get rid of. I don't want to ever have them again. I take clones to clubs in California. If I get mites then I can't take clones to clubs.

That being said, if you get a batch of clones from a club, expect them to have mites even if you don't see any. Isolate them for a couple of weeks, or at least dip them in florimite at least once.

Oh yeah... don't spray anything on your plants except for plain water with the lights on. Don't turn your lights back on until your spray is dry. Allways spray when the temps have been under 75 degrees for a while.

Hope this was some help.
Skoob
 

NewGrowth

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Pyrethrum is HIGHLY TOXIC TO CATS!

Regarding the rest of this very good thread:

I didn't hear anything about Stirrup M. Stirrup M is an excellent product. It will get the mites to move around and eat on different parts of a plant/grow room. If you can't get 100% coverage with either avid or florimite, and have mites all over your room, then try it.

I don't believe avid is systemic, I think it is translinear (will affect both sides of a leaf if sprayed on only one side.) I have seen spider mites that are resistant to avid. Avid is for use on ornamentals only. Growers usually ignore this.

IMHO Florimite sc works at least as well as avid. It's expensive but 3 mil per gallon gives you a solid 21 days protection on treated tisue.(new growth is not treated tissue).

For complete eradication you have to treat your plants every 7 days with something new, or treat everything that comes into your grow room twice, or both.

I grow indoors. If you are growing outdoors then the following doesn't apply:

When I have a new mother come into my space I isolate it for over a month. First I dip the entire plant into florimite. Seven days later I use azatrol. Then seven days later florimite again(at this time I sometimes have to spray the plant). Seven days later azatrol again. Another week and I use pylon. Then again with the florimite. At this point I am certain that I have no mites and take the new happy mother to my mother room.

Spider mites are a bitch to get rid of. I don't want to ever have them again. I take clones to clubs in California. If I get mites then I can't take clones to clubs.

That being said, if you get a batch of clones from a club, expect them to have mites even if you don't see any. Isolate them for a couple of weeks, or at least dip them in florimite at least once.

Oh yeah... don't spray anything on your plants except for plain water with the lights on. Don't turn your lights back on until your spray is dry. Allways spray when the temps have been under 75 degrees for a while.

Hope this was some help.
Skoob
All very good info, thanks man. Floramite is definitely a good product and it is what I use in rotation with Avid to control mites. Thanks for the good info on Stirrup M too! :peace:
 

danube

Member
I caught the nasty little f-ers almost exactly 7 weeks in. I mixed a 50/50 spray of rubbing alcohol (90%) and water. Sprayed down the plants thoroughly. Shook off excess.

Next day I hit them with Azamax and mixed it according to directions. In the next 48 hours they were almost completely gone. the one or two I still saw were motionless or barely moving.

I also sprayed down my garden area walls, table, etc. with the rubbing alcohol mix. Seems, for now, to have been successful.
 

skoobie dew

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I caught the nasty little f-ers almost exactly 7 weeks in. I mixed a 50/50 spray of rubbing alcohol (90%) and water. Sprayed down the plants thoroughly. Shook off excess.

Next day I hit them with Azamax and mixed it according to directions. In the next 48 hours they were almost completely gone. the one or two I still saw were motionless or barely moving.

I also sprayed down my garden area walls, table, etc. with the rubbing alcohol mix. Seems, for now, to have been successful.
azamax and azatrol have the same amount of the same active ingredient.
 

JN811

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i pruned my plants today and found a big spidermite!! Does anyone know where i can get some azatrol for cheap?? Please Help!!
 

skoobie dew

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i pruned my plants today and found a big spidermite!! Does anyone know where i can get some azatrol for cheap?? Please Help!!
There's no such thing as a BIG spidermite. There are small spiders. Spidermites are tiny. like the size of a pin head, but a little smaller.
 

JN811

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ok well ive found a total of four diffrent bugs in my garden.. White flies, a small black looking fly, some wierd tick looking creature and definetly spider mites...! I have already killed a plant 2 weeks in flowering because of them and now they have spread to my other girl snow white. Ive tried soap + water and alcohol +water and niether worked... I need to kill these fuckers before they kill another plant... They are multiplying at very fast rates and the plant i killed was covered with literally hundreds! I ordered some neem oil and a no pest strip. Will this work or should I buy something better? What can I do to slow them down till I get this stuff?! Btw Im on a buget so I cant afford Avil or Floramite.
 

JN811

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btw I think I got all these damn buggers from Miracle Grow Organic Soil I used before transplanting! NEVER AGAIN!! My avatars the girl I killed last night :( ak48 rest in peace
 

skoobie dew

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btw I think I got all these damn buggers from Miracle Grow Organic Soil I used before transplanting! NEVER AGAIN!! My avatars the girl I killed last night :( ak48 rest in peace
You can get soil mites from soil not spider mites. If you don't have any powdery mildew/ mold issues you can boil water in your room. I know this sounds nuts, but if you get the temp up to about 90 and your humidity above 80 % it will kill all of the adult mites in less than an hour. More than likely it will f-up your whole grow, but there it is.
 

mr.smileyface

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Hey i just sprayed mine with neem oil. There has been a bad infestation and They have formed a few cobwebs. They are on their 4 week of flower. When should i use the floramite? Three days after soaking in neem?
 
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