Greenhouse Seed Co. So much negativity

Nastydroaste

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if McDonalds were to make seeds it would be through GHseeds,
they come accross as a bit of a macho industrial hard man seed machine company to me
having said that they do have nice strains that do the job but theres nothin better than a home made 1/4 pounder
in future id spend my money elsewhere, give it to the better breeders
Why are other breeders so much better. I have seen some of the videos on Attitude of some breaders describing their strains, and it doesn't sound like they are doing rocket science or something, just natural selection. If they don't supposedly have half the resources green house has, how can they do it better?

Anyway... Well how is the cheese?
 

Big Perm

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A lot of it, if not most of it, is the grower. You can take ditch weed and with a good grower it'll hit as hard as the big dogs.
You can also take the best known seeds to mankind and give them to a dumbass, and can get something that is equal to smoking dried dandelions.
However,
To get badass weed, use badass seeds. This is something you'll hear over and over, for the most part this is true, given an equal playing field of all seeds.
 

Nastydroaste

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A lot of it, if not most of it, is the grower. You can take ditch weed and with a good grower it'll hit as hard as the big dogs.
You can also take the best known seeds to mankind and give them to a dumbass, and can get something that is equal to smoking dried dandelions.

HAha pretty funny, but true...
 

speedyseedz

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Why are other breeders so much better. I have seen some of the videos on Attitude of some breaders describing their strains, and it doesn't sound like they are doing rocket science or something, just natural selection. If they don't supposedly have half the resources green house has, how can they do it better?

Anyway... Well how is the cheese?
Although greenhouse may have a good stock of plants to breed from, they haven't spent the time refining a strain and making it stable, pheno variation is wild.

I've never said on this entire thread that I don't like greenhouse because their strains are shitty, and neither has anyone else who has expressed their dislike for greenhouse, what people dislike is getting a pack of seeds, having some that finish in 8 weeks and then some that have a lot of the haze pheno in that take 14 weeks, give an uneven canopy, get the odd mutant, it's these factors for me that count against greenhouse, they have just become to commercial and its all just bang bang bang get the stock out, get the rare clone only varieties out because people will buy a shit load of it.

Heres one of my white russian from serious i have going at the moment, just to clear up any issues about how well or how badly i grow plants
 

NewGrowth

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See... that's what I don't understand, are they really that bad.... I mean, if I grow out a these two femed seeds, take plenty of clones each of them, then grow them out, will my end result be hermed or shit that is not worth a penny??? I know this could not be answered as there is no way to tell... But I just wonder, what puts them behind the other seed companies, besides the "dont have original, they stole it" which all the other companies do as well... Are my chances of getting a good crop just no there because greenhouse is really that bad... There is just so much propoganda out their on both sides, but I would like to here what people grew from them and what the result was.
It's not just the plants which are something else I believe. For example the Greenhouse Trainwreck and the Arcata cut Trainwreck I've had are COMPLETELY different. Whatever Greenhouse is claiming to be "Trainwreck" is different than the real stuff. I've ordered from Greenhouse for a while and have seen a steady decline in their product quality over the years. They used to have strains with amazing highs, now they have stuff like "trainwreck" that grows a very cool plant but has a rather "unrefined" high.

So I guess I don't discount Greenhouse completely but as of late their product has been poor in comparison to what so many of these new, and old school breeders are doing.

For comparison grow some Mandala Genetics (TGA too!) along side some Greenhouse strains. I can promise you that you will be more impressed by what these new Spanish breeders are doing with land-race genetics.

To me it is about constantly improving and working with cannabis genetics to produce the highest quality plant AND smoke. While at the same time providing reasonably priced quality seeds. Some feminized seeds are well done but I think a good breeder should also provide improved genetics with regular seeds as well.

Good luck to you all in your search for the best seeds:leaf:
 

Mr.Therapy Man

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Im growing TGA now and Ive grown five of Mandala Mikes strains.My pheno of TW is great smoke,I dont know or care where in the fuck it came from.Im not a fan of Arjans either but Ive got me a good pheno out of a ten pack...peace
 

Nastydroaste

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It's not just the plants which are something else I believe. For example the Greenhouse Trainwreck and the Arcata cut Trainwreck I've had are COMPLETELY different. Whatever Greenhouse is claiming to be "Trainwreck" is different than the real stuff. I've ordered from Greenhouse for a while and have seen a steady decline in their product quality over the years. They used to have strains with amazing highs, now they have stuff like "trainwreck" that grows a very cool plant but has a rather "unrefined" high.

So I guess I don't discount Greenhouse completely but as of late their product has been poor in comparison to what so many of these new, and old school breeders are doing.

For comparison grow some Mandala Genetics (TGA too!) along side some Greenhouse strains. I can promise you that you will be more impressed by what these new Spanish breeders are doing with land-race genetics.

To me it is about constantly improving and working with cannabis genetics to produce the highest quality plant AND smoke. While at the same time providing reasonably priced quality seeds. Some feminized seeds are well done but I think a good breeder should also provide improved genetics with regular seeds as well.

Good luck to you all in your search for the best seeds:leaf:
You would think they had some kind of quality control for being such a big company and what not.. The thing is, I ordered these seeds last year 2008 Feb. I thought they were really good genetics I guess because of all the shit I see on youtube and even on some forums. But now that i'm growing them out, I research and research trying to find something, anything, that says these are good seeds.. I see nothing but negative comments, which is quite discouraging. I really don't want to order seeds anymore as it is a bit risky. So what it comes down to, is I got to pray these are a good batch. Really dont wanna waste my time.
 

speedyseedz

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.Im not a fan of Arjans either but Ive got me a good pheno out of a ten pack...peace

You've hit exactly my point right there, you think you buy a pack of ten seeds and get 1 good pheno, thats not really fantastic, now it may be fine for someone who can grow out the whole pack of ten and look for the pheno, but for someone growing 2 or 4 at a time at home for personal, its not really ideal.

For the original poster though, you've got some plants and your going to get some nice smoke, you will get white widow and a kind of cheese and you'll really enjoy both of them
 

chris/85

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greenhouse seed company cheap seeds but the seeds r not always up to scratch i buy them ive hade males in feminized seeds, ive bought feminized seeds that only 2 in 5 germinated ive also bought feminized seeds that the buds where full off seeds and am not even sure was the strain i wanted, am not impressed with this company and will be switchin to another
 

jar87

Active Member
I got a pack of 5 fem seeds and had one "church" germ but not grow after that ? the hawaiian snow, cheese, arjans haze #1, and great white shark are doing good but any info on the snow, haze and gws would be appricated. also what are the odds of getting a hermie or male ?
 

Nastydroaste

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I got a pack of 5 fem seeds and had one "church" germ but not grow after that ? the hawaiian snow, cheese, arjans haze #1, and great white shark are doing good but any info on the snow, haze and gws would be appricated. also what are the odds of getting a hermie or male ?
I also had a one big bang not germinate, and one big bang germinate and die on me hehe But they were a year old so I don't mind. I dont know why, but usually the ones who hate and have the worst things to say about greenhouse usually have like one or two posts.. I just wonder if they are trolls, or so disgusted with them that they decide to join the forum and make it their first apearance and hate
 

speedyseedz

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I also had a one big bang not germinate, and one big bang germinate and die on me hehe But they were a year old so I don't mind. I dont know why, but usually the ones who hate and have the worst things to say about greenhouse usually have like one or two posts.. I just wonder if they are trolls, or so disgusted with them that they decide to join the forum and make it their first apearance and hate
Yeah it couldn't possibily be for a real reason could it
 

123petey999

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Yeah it couldn't possibily be for a real reason could it
sorry to hijack but are ghs realy that bad cuz iv got a mate that grows 10 great white shark and gets 44 oz every 8 an half weeks garanteed i was guna grow ten my next grow but if ur sayin there tghat bad i wont bover!:wall:
 

shrigpiece

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iv never had a prob with greenhouse, 8 out of 10 germ random phenos but natures not perfect. most seed companys are the same
 

Nastydroaste

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sorry to hijack but are ghs realy that bad cuz iv got a mate that grows 10 great white shark and gets 44 oz every 8 an half weeks garanteed i was guna grow ten my next grow but if ur sayin there tghat bad i wont bover!:wall:
Bro, from all the searching ive done, and ive done ALOT, on a couple forums, even the main GHS forum on ICmag, there are alot of haters, and some lovers. The haters outweigh the lovers it seems. But not for the reasons you would think. Sure there seem to be some genuine people that have the credentials, and don't like them, but the ones who do grow them and love them, swear by them and usually have pics to back it up. I hardly see any people that hate on them with some kinda proof, like pictures. But they sure do have a very deep hatred for Arjan, and how he stole MNS product, which makes me wonder. Then there are the ones who don't really even know how to grow and have bad experiences with them. I too was very discouraged as I read so much about them being shitty, but as I look at these peoples profiles and posts, I am starting to gain my confidence back. I also realize that they do sell a shit load of seeds, more than anyone so there is bound to be some bad experiences.
 

shrigpiece

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Bro, from all the searching ive done, and ive done ALOT, on a couple forums, even the main GHS forum on ICmag, there are alot of haters, and some lovers. The haters outweigh the lovers it seems. But not for the reasons you would think. Sure there seem to be some genuine people that have the credentials, and don't like them, but the ones who do grow them and love them, swear by them and usually have pics to back it up. I hardly see any people that hate on them with some kinda proof, like pictures. But they sure do have a very deep hatred for Arjan, and how he stole MNS product, which makes me wonder. Then there are the ones who don't really even know how to grow and have bad experiences with them. I too was very discouraged as I read so much about them being shitty, but as I look at these peoples profiles and posts, I am starting to gain my confidence back. I also realize that they do sell a shit load of seeds, more than anyone so there is bound to be some bad experiences.
greenhouse seeds are not bad at all. considering the price of there seeds you get a very good deal and decent plants. iv always ended up trippin balls smoking there stuff. isnt that what weed is about?;-)
 

Nastydroaste

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greenhouse seeds are not bad at all. considering the price of there seeds you get a very good deal and decent plants. iv always ended up trippin balls smoking there stuff. isnt that what weed is about?;-)
Yea that's all I care about :bigjoint: Not who stole what and this and that.. I just want something potent, tasty, and overall a good plant... Don't really care how they are doing it, as long as its quality.
 
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