PVS
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funny because since the dawn of minimum wage every time it was raised, chicken littles kept hollering that it was the doom of our job market. then by some unforeseen miracle by baby jesus it stabilized and flourished. every time.
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funny because since the dawn of minimum wage every time it was raised, chicken littles kept hollering that it was the doom of our job market. then by some unforeseen miracle by baby jesus it stabilized and flourished. every time.
Operation 420
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PVS
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yes i will agree that the timing is downright awful, but i still believe its not going to be our ruin. you have to admit though that every time minimum wage was been raised or the idea was even suggested, the economic doomsday card was pulled.
Operation 420
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hanimmal
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How many people do you really know that make less than $8 an hour? Would you do that when you could have been making more than that at McDonalds?
And low and behold McDonalds is still very strong and one of the hotter stocks still. The whole min. wage thing is a weak thing because it did not change anything really.
PVS
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CrackerJax
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PVS
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i'm just going to start ignoring you until you learn to stop belittling people who disagree with you. kthx
CrackerJax
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Ok. And I'll just ignore your sweeping disconnected generalizations. 
Asking you where you get ur ideas is a fair question. Too difficult?
Asking you where you get ur ideas is a fair question. Too difficult?
hanimmal
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PVS no reason to get upset. Just persevere. The simple answer is that minimum wage laws are not good if they affect the equilibrium by raising the bar above it.
W is wages. So if you place the minimum wage just below the equilibrium it really does not affect anything. If you raise the minimum wage above that it does raise unemployment since people won't be willing to pay people to do those jobs.
The easy solution for politicians is to say they are increasing the wages, but they know enough (thankfully) to not bring it above the equilibrium to actually hurt the economy.
Will some people lose jobs? Yes but they would have been jobs that they would have a very hard time getting anyone to work in the first place.
Just like the reason you don't answer me when I ask you that question I am guessing it is the same.
W is wages. So if you place the minimum wage just below the equilibrium it really does not affect anything. If you raise the minimum wage above that it does raise unemployment since people won't be willing to pay people to do those jobs.
The easy solution for politicians is to say they are increasing the wages, but they know enough (thankfully) to not bring it above the equilibrium to actually hurt the economy.
Will some people lose jobs? Yes but they would have been jobs that they would have a very hard time getting anyone to work in the first place.
Ok. And I'll just ignore your sweeping disconnected generalizations.
Asking you where you get ur ideas is a fair question. Too difficult?
Just like the reason you don't answer me when I ask you that question I am guessing it is the same.
Operation 420
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You're comparing a huge established company to small businesses. /fail
CrackerJax
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As you can see, the MW DUPE works on folks just like PVS.........gets his vote.
CrackerJax
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See any parallels to health care???? 
hanimmal
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Yes I do. The changes being made is a wash. The costs will end up being below what we are (people that actually get healthcare) paying. So because it is below the equilibrium it won't really change anything. That is what I was trying to tell you all that were freaking out.
Operation 420
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CJ. I'm convinced these people are all on board with the "plan". I think they picture a one world government as a utopia, where people will dance around singing and holding hands.
CrackerJax
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Yes, i think so too.
han, that's just a laugh. You need to read the history of medicare and medicaid. ALL the same promises were made then. Look at them now.
Han, you don't have a SINGLE successful template to prove the Govt. can run a business, let alone be in charge of something as important and personal as our bodies.
Why do you think this is any different. All the warning signs are there. The entire premise is based on the lie that somehow we are in a health care crisis....NONSENSE!!
The country is slowly waking up to this charade. Obama senses it now. His honeymoon is over......thankfully. If it went on much longer our misery would be set in stone.
han, that's just a laugh. You need to read the history of medicare and medicaid. ALL the same promises were made then. Look at them now.
Han, you don't have a SINGLE successful template to prove the Govt. can run a business, let alone be in charge of something as important and personal as our bodies.
Why do you think this is any different. All the warning signs are there. The entire premise is based on the lie that somehow we are in a health care crisis....NONSENSE!!
The country is slowly waking up to this charade. Obama senses it now. His honeymoon is over......thankfully. If it went on much longer our misery would be set in stone.
hanimmal
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Wow I am so happy that you found me out peace and flowers.
This is the hand we are dealt at the moment. Either we can scrap the entire system go into a complete chaos and develop a new system (not going to happen until the American empire collapses) or we can try to improve upon the one we have. Like move the wasted money here over to there that the money is better spent.
