Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!

tipsgnob

New Member
So you cant read very good either.Its like talking to a 12 year old. Lets go slow so you can folow even though its very clearly put up several times.....Sadddam who was the leader of Iraq right? He was under attack and on the run right? He had no money and needed cash to flee..with me so far I know its hard..He had the nuclear heads and equiptment IRAN wanted and they had the cash he needed..had to be liquid assets so he could use it freely...He sold the stuff to Iran who hates the US just as much and they took cash they had and gave it to Saddam...Ok Im trying to go slow now..Saddam then had cash assets which ..keep up now..we caught him in possession with in the hole in the ground...see we stopped his money already but he did a thing called selling and got new cash for his nuclear technology....if you can not follow this then you need to get back in school. This was stated several time very clearly in this thread pl,ease read before commenting saves us time and saves you some face..
there is no proof saddam had nuclear technology...that's something you pulled out of your ass...your are sooo full of shit...do you just make this shit up? did you dream it? what? your saying in that damn spider hole where we caught saddam...was loaded full of cash?
if your going to make this shit up as you go along you need to keep better track of what you have already said bubba....
 

CrackerJax

New Member
It was the first thing I pulled up...want the NYT? Can do, just ask. This is no secret except to those who haven't bothered to keep up. Where you been...:lol:
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Tips i have no idea what you are ven saying. yes his hole had cases of cash in there. the hole wasnt just a tiny hole it had ventalation, a bed,electricity cash, food and books.So not sure what you are saying as I have stated the exact same things over and over you obviously just can not read for shit so until you learn to read you have no reason to speak.PLEASE LEARN TO READ LIKE AT LEAST A 5TH GRADER.My god I never debated with such a moron who can not even read
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Ok as for Dafur. Can you show me where they have a large terrorist traing camp program, posses a world threat, and are run by a goivernment capable of nuclear possibilties due to them breaking war treaty agreements or is that a country in flux with a civil war based upon thier political own unrest. There is a huge difference. We are not going to stop every internal affair at every country. As dafur bropken a US war treat document? Do they have a large world military capable of world disruption? No Dafur is a smaller threat to no one but themselves. World disruption and threats tend to be a little more important to a small countries political unrest. dafur in the greater picture has no world importance. This would be like saying why dont we go to africa and stop all tribal squabbles.Its not even the same thing. Did we get involved when germany was just fighting the smaller republics around it..Nope that was not enough for us to jump in. Once Hitler bagan mass gencide and threatened world take over domination as was succeeding against our allies we reluctantly stepped in.Those for oil war yelles are retarded again you guys know we get the majority of our oil from Canada in the US right and then a small amount from the Saudi fields right. We do not get or use Iraqi oil lol so to say we went for something we do not use have not used and currently do not use is just crazy...Natrone23 yeah he had money he was forced to leave as he was in a hurry and on the mobile run. he had to regroup. We have sattalite images of missle trucks moving into Iran at this time. Your assuming saddam was a regular sane humane which he was not. his mind would be more on revenge and going out against the US with some bang and he knew he had no way to use his nuclear program but he also knew Iran was the next US enemy who could do so and could offer help on his way out.You guys act as if criminals do not create alliances in bad situation and use the others to get what they need.Now I have been answering and proving my statements from my point. can one of you war for oil yellers show me one fact that shows the US has imported Iraqi oil and that we are using and by all means show me something that shows Saddam was sane and that Iran had a full working nuclear buyild up program prior t the war.You simpley do not have a full functioning nuclear program from nothing in 5 years you just do not so I need you guys to show me some proof to back what your saying. A simmple report showing Iran was a nuclear power back in the 90's. If you can not then your arguements are moot
 

tipsgnob

New Member
Tips i have no idea what you are ven saying. yes his hole had cases of cash in there. the hole wasnt just a tiny hole it had ventalation, a bed,electricity cash, food and books.So not sure what you are saying as I have stated the exact same things over and over you obviously just can not read for shit so until you learn to read you have no reason to speak.PLEASE LEARN TO READ LIKE AT LEAST A 5TH GRADER.My god I never debated with such a moron who can not even read
A closer look at the "spider hole" where Saddam is found hiding. The spider hole is about six to eight feet deep, and allows enough space for a person to lie down inside of it. Saddam is captured without resistance, and at about 2115 hours he is moved to a secure area. A further search of the hole and surrounding area is conducted. Results from the raid include confiscation of two AK-47s, a pistol, 750,000 U.S. dollars in 100-dollar denominations, and a white and orange taxi. Two other Iraqis affiliated with Saddam Hussein are also detained. Saddam Hussein is currently under Coalition custody and at an undisclosed location. wow...you can buy nuclear "secrets" for $750k....
 

tipsgnob

New Member
Ok as for Dafur. Can you show me where they have a large terrorist traing camp program, posses a world threat, and are run by a goivernment capable of nuclear possibilties due to them breaking war treaty agreements or is that a country in flux with a civil war based upon thier political own unrest. There is a huge difference. We are not going to stop every internal affair at every country. As dafur bropken a US war treat document? Do they have a large world military capable of world disruption? No Dafur is a smaller threat to no one but themselves. World disruption and threats tend to be a little more important to a small countries political unrest. dafur in the greater picture has no world importance. This would be like saying why dont we go to africa and stop all tribal squabbles.Its not even the same thing. Did we get involved when germany was just fighting the smaller republics around it..Nope that was not enough for us to jump in. Once Hitler bagan mass gencide and threatened world take over domination as was succeeding against our allies we reluctantly stepped in.Those for oil war yelles are retarded again you guys know we get the majority of our oil from Canada in the US right and then a small amount from the Saudi fields right. We do not get or use Iraqi oil lol so to say we went for something we do not use have not used and currently do not use is just crazy...Natrone23 yeah he had money he was forced to leave as he was in a hurry and on the mobile run. he had to regroup. We have sattalite images of missle trucks moving into Iran at this time. Your assuming saddam was a regular sane humane which he was not. his mind would be more on revenge and going out against the US with some bang and he knew he had no way to use his nuclear program but he also knew Iran was the next US enemy who could do so and could offer help on his way out.You guys act as if criminals do not create alliances in bad situation and use the others to get what they need.Now I have been answering and proving my statements from my point. can one of you war for oil yellers show me one fact that shows the US has imported Iraqi oil and that we are using and by all means show me something that shows Saddam was sane and that Iran had a full working nuclear buyild up program prior t the war.You simpley do not have a full functioning nuclear program from nothing in 5 years you just do not so I need you guys to show me some proof to back what your saying. A simmple report showing Iran was a nuclear power back in the 90's. If you can not then your arguements are moot
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/facility/osiraq.htm

the US was also helping to train terrorist...if I remember right we taught them how to fly commercial jets...
 

CrackerJax

New Member
A closer look at the "spider hole" where Saddam is found hiding. The spider hole is about six to eight feet deep, and allows enough space for a person to lie down inside of it. Saddam is captured without resistance, and at about 2115 hours he is moved to a secure area. A further search of the hole and surrounding area is conducted. Results from the raid include confiscation of two AK-47s, a pistol, 750,000 U.S. dollars in 100-dollar denominations, and a white and orange taxi. Two other Iraqis affiliated with Saddam Hussein are also detained. Saddam Hussein is currently under Coalition custody and at an undisclosed location. wow...you can buy nuclear "secrets" for $750k....
Are you serious? Or just .......
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
lol nice diagram where is the house that was right next to it where over $4 million was found within 15 feet of the hole with the radio and his 3 look outs? Forgot that money also. And hiow much cash would you think a single man on the run could carry at one time? You think some of the millions in $100 cash domination found at scattrered Saddam supporters home was just thier money since Iraq economy was so great and the average person was a millionaire? You would be the woirst criminal on earth. They find you they find everything you have all in one spot. Hope you never sell weed or you wouldnt even be smart enough to havwe you assests diverified for your own protection. Yup we openly trained those declared terrosit to fly commercial planes. They signed up said we are a terrorist group that hates the United States and we would like to learn to fly commercial jets and how to smuggle explosives onto your plane and we said sure no problem we will pay for it lol you want anyone to believe that therory of yous really? And you know who let them into the US even know half showed on potential threat list uh ohhh buddy boy Billy Clinton allowed them in. I can beleiev you can sit there and try to convince people you believe those terrorist told us who they were what they were doing and we opened a traing camp and funded terrorist that wanted to attack us openingly.. come on now
 

bicycle racer

Well-Known Member
so what mistake i must ask has america made ever or are we always absolutely right come on guys really. there are high level respected people who were in that admin who say there were lies after lies to get the us into iraq. some of you have almost a religious devotion to defending any actions the us takes thats not patriotism that is delusion.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
US mader alot of mistakes..Vietnam was a mistake,Not finishing Desert Storm was a mistake, Putting foot soldiers in Iraq the second time before carpet bombing the entire known hostiles was a mistake,Somilioa was a mistake, Greneda was a mistake, Open trade in NAFTA was a mistake, Not enforcing our borders tough from illegal aliens is a mistake,Allowing Obama to spend at will is a mistake, the US makes many mistakes. Trusting Afghanastan as an ally against russia back in the 70s and arming them was a mistake. Continuing aide to those countries who would not help us in the war still is a mistake. We make mistakes all the time.
 

Puna Bud

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US mader alot of mistakes..Vietnam was a mistake,Not finishing Desert Storm was a mistake, Putting foot soldiers in Iraq the second time before carpet bombing the entire known hostiles was a mistake,Somilioa was a mistake, Greneda was a mistake, Open trade in NAFTA was a mistake, Not enforcing our borders tough from illegal aliens is a mistake,Allowing Obama to spend at will is a mistake, the US makes many mistakes. Trusting Afghanastan as an ally against russia back in the 70s and arming them was a mistake. Continuing aide to those countries who would not help us in the war still is a mistake. We make mistakes all the time.
You're damn right America has made it's fair share of mistakes. But hasn't every country on the face of this earth made mistakes before? We just got through living the past 8 years of the biggest mistake in American history(GW BUSH presidency). More worse, after the first four years of this mistake. America decided this mistake was okay!?!? We gave the "Dirt Farmer from Crawford",another four years, and in doing so we turned our beloved country into one of the world's biggest jokes!!!
Now the 'right' has decided to go after Obama for trying to right the ship that has been floundering for 8 year under Bush's cowboy regime!!! Then you have this "anal retentive jerk off"(Dickless Cheney) spewing basic treason at every possible chance he gets. Abortion doctors being murdered in cold blood, but where is the right now with their fear about terrorism? Or does domestic terrorism not count for anything? The GOP and more importantly the 'white right' is really looking stupid these days. I'd be here all day if I had to list all the blunders this party,and movement have committed recently in the media.
Basically the GOP is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off! This party is in such turmoil it's beyond funny. When they turn to Palin, to Steele, or to non elected officials like Limbaugh you know they are desperate!!!
Yet, my party with a mandate can't drive home a few progressive bills? Where is the audacity you talked about Mr. President? You had my vote because I though change was a coming? Don't offer your backside to corporate America Mr. President. You won the election,drive home a new progressive medical plan sir! Yesterday's speech at the AMA fell way short of our objectives sir!! Why?
 

medicineman

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You're damn right America has made it's fair share of mistakes. But hasn't every country on the face of this earth made mistakes before? We just got through living the past 8 years of the biggest mistake in American history(GW BUSH presidency). More worse, after the first four years of this mistake. America decided this mistake was okay!?!? We gave the "Dirt Farmer from Crawford",another four years, and in doing so we turned our beloved country into one of the world's biggest jokes!!!
Now the 'right' has decided to go after Obama for trying to right the ship that has been floundering for 8 year under Bush's cowboy regime!!! Then you have this "anal retentive jerk off"(Dickless Cheney) spewing basic treason at every possible chance he gets. Abortion doctors being murdered in cold blood, but where is the right now with their fear about terrorism? Or does domestic terrorism not count for anything? The GOP and more importantly the 'white right' is really looking stupid these days. I'd be here all day if I had to list all the blunders this party,and movement have committed recently in the media.
Basically the GOP is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off! This party is in such turmoil it's beyond funny. When they turn to Palin, to Steele, or to non elected officials like Limbaugh you know they are desperate!!!
Yet, my party with a mandate can't drive home a few progressive bills? Where is the audacity you talked about Mr. President? You had my vote because I though change was a coming? Don't offer your backside to corporate America Mr. President. You won the election,drive home a new progressive medical plan sir! Yesterday's speech at the AMA fell way short of our objectives sir!! Why?
+++Reps to you, well said. Hey Puna, be aware that this is basically a libertarian site so you will have lots of opposition. I've got your Back.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
yup all countries make mistakes and I was answering the question asking if everything america did was right. The Bush years were not the mistake years though. Those belong to Clinton and well now Obama who some how tricked all those simple fouls who he got to vote for him. He has already went against everything he said, increased the jobless rate,put into motion the most taxes in decades, killed small business, wasted money with no plan, implemented the begings of socialism, wants to get a Trillion dollar health plan passed that covers only less then half those who would need it, broken presidential protocal, used more air time in his first 6 months on his helicopters then any other president (real green guy there) and has turned his back on long time allies. We are screwed veryu very bad with him as our president and the longer he is in the weaker our country will be until a point of self implosion or revolt by the people.....I still don't get where most democrates think Rush is backed by our party as its future. He usually has alot to say but never has been endorsed to lead the republican party not sure who started that rumor or why?Which "spewings" do you refer to exactly? just want to know what your caling treason as I know its not his constant talking of how bad Obama has weakened us or humiliated us since being in office as thats all true and known opinion. Domestic violence has to take a back seat until we can stop the massive hemoraging Obama has unleashed and if allowed to continue forceing socialism down our throats it won't matter has the US will cease to exist within a decade.You ask Obama to stand by his promises and think he had any plan to actually do those things then you my friend are screwed as he will do exactly non of what he campaigned on as it was then and still is those things are impossible and were so far from being able to be done only a fool would have believed a word from his mouth as economic situations and world clkash prevent all of his vocal lies to even be considered during his terms...fools follow fools and he went way down in the intelligence barrel and talked non voters into voting just because he wasnt Bush. More then half his voters could not even tell you his platform stats and had never voted before citing thier votes do not matter
 
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PadawanBater

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Filthy, Obama is doing a terrible job as president, but if you think Bush didn't fuck anything up, your own analysis on Obama is pointless as you clearly only see what you want to see. President Bush was the worst president in the United States in the last century, hands down.
 
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