A Call to All Ohio Members

[IndooorGardnerOhio]

i chatted with a couple of dispo employees today. their management is estimating that rec will be full operational no earlier than next october. and if you want to make sure you have access to dispo weed, keep or obtain a med card. if it's anything like what happened in missouri, when rec goes online next year there will likely be an inventory issue. ohio is bordered by states that don't even have medical yet, so that will compound the demand issue. the thinking is that med card holders will have priority for inventory over rec, and the taxes on medical are about 7-8%, whereas rec will be at least 15%, possibly more. and med thc % will be higher than rec, potentially.

ORRRRR just grow your own. haha!

They "Say" that if the bill going through now passes rec sales can start in 90 days from the date th gov signs it.

 

[wakeNbaker46]

They "Say" that if the bill going through now passes rec sales can start in 90 days from the date th gov signs it.

right - i think the 90 days is what the state constitution outlines in general for laws/statutes. the dispo folks were only speaking to the logistics of getting everything set up on their end. the supply chain needs to grease the skids and get cultivators in position to grow for the demand that is expected. and then of course there will be regulations and certifications and labeling and blahblahblah.

again, this is pertinent to folks who aren't going to grow their own but still want rec access.

 

[IndooorGardnerOhio]

right - i think the 90 days is what the state constitution outlines in general for laws/statutes. the dispo folks were only speaking to the logistics of getting everything set up on their end. the supply chain needs to grease the skids and get cultivators in position to grow for the demand that is expected. and then of course there will be regulations and certifications and labeling and blahblahblah.

again, this is pertinent to folks who aren't going to grow their own but still want rec access.

Right on, and currently there is only one commercial Grower In the state of Ohio, so NO WAY they can handle demand for the whole state off the jump without other growers popping up, and with the time taken to grow, unless the new grower starts with a shit load of Auto Flower plants, they wont even have product to sell for like 8 or 9 months.

 

[Moistvonlipwig]

Right on, and currently there is only one commercial Grower In the state of Ohio, so NO WAY they can handle demand for the whole state off the jump without other growers popping up, and with the time taken to grow, unless the new grower starts with a shit load of Auto Flower plants, they wont even have product to sell for like 8 or 9 months.

Umm , there's something like 35-40 licensed commercial growers in Ohio right now .
Is that any where near enough to supply recreational use , absolutely not . But those people are all about making money so it'll be 100% certain that everyone of those growers started ramping up the very second they learned of even a remote possibility they could go recreational from the dispensary's So they can cash in on what will be sky high prices till the rest of the market can catch up

 

[IndooorGardnerOhio]

Umm , there's something like 35-40 licensed commercial growers in Ohio right now .
Is that any where near enough to supply recreational use , absolutely not . But those people are all about making money so it'll be 100% certain that everyone of those growers started ramping up the very second they learned of even a remote possibility they could go recreational from the dispensary's So they can cash in on what will be sky high prices till the rest of the market can catch up

33 cultivator provisional licenses, including 19 Level I cultivators and 14 Level II cultivators. I was wrong, last I knew there was only one oustide Dayton lol guess im a lil behind. Oh ya I expect 200 1/8 bags and 35 dollar 1 gram pre rolls.

 

[Moistvonlipwig]

We can hope they aren't so stupid to try that nonsense , sure they will have plenty of suckers short term , but people will remember the price gouging when the market is up and running.
Not to mention all those who will just drive to Michigan.

 

[emepher]

We can hope they aren't so stupid to try that nonsense , sure they will have plenty of suckers short term , but people will remember the price gouging when the market is up and running.
Not to mention all those who will just drive to Michigan.

Yeah, Michigan is already the answer for a lot of people. If you aren't too far and can make the drive, the prices, variety, and quality are pretty enticing. I'd be quite satisfied if we ended up with something like what I've seen at the dispensaries in Morenci, MI.

Outrageous prices would be a mistake for multiple reasons. Silly pricing would turn people off of course, diminishing demand and thereby minimizing tax revenue. That would also feed the black market, while the governor has made killing it a priority. Of course he sounds naive about it, as if he doesn't know there isn't already a strong black market in Ohio (there must be, since anyone who wants weed can already find it . Some small time dealers buy $60 ounces legally in MI and dish it out for $10/gram). No one seems to know what he was talking about when he mentioned wanting to prevent people from getting fentanyl-laced weed, which is something that basically never happens because it doesn't make sense to take something people already want as-is, add something that adds cost (which no one will knowingly accept or pay more for) and could potentially keep them from coming back for more. I'm sure that has happened somewhere, but it has to be incredibly rare and I've never heard of it. Our ridiculous medical pricing and hoops to jump through have definitely not helped shut down the black market.

 

[Goldbergstein]

Yeah, Michigan is already the answer for a lot of people. If you aren't too far and can make the drive, the prices, variety, and quality are pretty enticing. I'd be quite satisfied if we ended up with something like what I've seen at the dispensaries in Morenci, MI.

Outrageous prices would be a mistake for multiple reasons. Silly pricing would turn people off of course, diminishing demand and thereby minimizing tax revenue. That would also feed the black market, while the governor has made killing it a priority. Of course he sounds naive about it, as if he doesn't know there isn't already a strong black market in Ohio (there must be, since anyone who wants weed can already find it . Some small time dealers buy $60 ounces legally in MI and dish it out for $10/gram). No one seems to know what he was talking about when he mentioned wanting to prevent people from getting fentanyl-laced weed, which is something that basically never happens because it doesn't make sense to take something people already want as-is, add something that adds cost (which no one will knowingly accept or pay more for) and could potentially keep them from coming back for more. I'm sure that has happened somewhere, but it has to be incredibly rare and I've never heard of it. Our ridiculous medical pricing and hoops to jump through have definitely not helped shut down the black market.

Ok, here's the thing about fentanyl-laced weed. It does happen, it is a thing, and it kills unsuspecting people. I've been witness. BUT it's not so much intentionally laced with fentanyl, it's contaminated, because the same guy that is selling fetty to dopeheads also sells weed. Gets in the scale, on the bags, whatever. And it doesn't take much, exorcism considering pothead don't necessarily have any tolerance to that shit. He's not wrong on that.

 

[MtRainDog]

Yahoo News: Ohio health expert challenges governor’s warning on fentanyl-laced marijuana

Following the recent vote that legalized recreational marijuana in Ohio, Governor Mike DeWine urged the state senate to pass a bill to make changes to the law. He cited concerns over the dangers of fentanyl-laced marijuana. In a story posted by Yahoo News, Tasha Turner-Bicknell of the UC College...

www.uc.edu

 

[MtRainDog]

Sorry, but that is just fear-mongering. These state legislatures aren't naive, they're just trying to figure out how to make money. Of course they want to scare consumers away from the black market and into their crappy overpriced dispensaries.

 

[Goldbergstein]

I mean I guess I'm a liar. I don't even care what that article says. You are underestimating how terrible people are. I mean, maybe you have better options for street weed. I feel like i might get shot when i try to cop on the street. And been robed twice in the last year. It's not always a nice happy peace-and-love powwow. But, the ignorant fuckbag who's selling fentanyl gives 0 fucks about your safety and cross contamination. I've seen people bugspray shit before they sell it, because "man, fuck this guy." People talking about intentionally overdosing customers to spread the word about their good dope.

Maybe stay out the hood if you think this is unfathomable. It's far from the worst shit you'll see. So, yeah being able to get weed without having to deal with these kinda scumbags is great news.

 

[MtRainDog]

I mean I guess I'm a liar. I don't even care what that article says. You are underestimating how terrible people are. I mean, maybe you have better options for street weed. I feel like i might get shot when i try to cop on the street. And been robed twice in the last year. It's not always a nice happy peace-and-love powwow. But, the ignorant fuckbag who's selling fentanyl gives 0 fucks about your safety and cross contamination. I've seen people bugspray shit before they sell it, because "man, fuck this guy." People talking about intentionally overdosing customers to spread the word about their good dope.

Maybe stay out the hood if you think this is unfathomable. It's far from the worst shit you'll see. So, yeah being able to get weed without having to deal with these kinda scumbags is great news.

You're so hard up for weed you gotta deal with people that shady that you don't trust?

 

[MtRainDog]

I really don't mean to come off as a dick. But we put our "trust" in other people's lives like crazy cosmically better odds some drunk scumbag or just some kid not paying attention will kill you in a car accident. By in large, yes, laced-weed has been blown way out of proportion by people against legalization/decriminalization/etc. They pushed that idea on everyone hard in the 80's and 90's while they simultaneously locked-up the most amount of brown people they could in record numbers. Trust is a fickle thing.

 

[Blue_Focus]

Yahoo News: Ohio health expert challenges governor’s warning on fentanyl-laced marijuana

Following the recent vote that legalized recreational marijuana in Ohio, Governor Mike DeWine urged the state senate to pass a bill to make changes to the law. He cited concerns over the dangers of fentanyl-laced marijuana. In a story posted by Yahoo News, Tasha Turner-Bicknell of the UC College...

www.uc.edu

Why didn't he worry about it before the bill passed?

You can always buy weed in Ohio for years.

 

[MtRainDog]

Why didn't he worry about it before the bill passed?

You can always buy weed in Ohio for years.

The problem is politicians don't understand cannabis. They see it as a comodity, tax revenue, something they can profit from. Their rhetoric is always devoid of any respect toward the plant and the individuals who contributed to its survival and cultivation. They will never understand it, but they probably drink fancy scotch and bourbon while they give each other handies in the mens club sauna.