Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
As you just found out, the whole 'curing' trip is a bit silly and unnecessary for cannabis. Curing may be a useful procedure for tobacco leaf but we're not growing tobacco.
Quick Drying - The Other Side Of The Coin
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Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Be careful with prototypes. They can wind up being the working unit if you're not careful. My 1st proto of the bud dryer ran for 7 years until I rebuilt it even close to right. 
The prototype- no thermostat, wrong size resistors, no motor speed control,
original (wrong) fan locations covered with masking tape. Ran it for 7 years
anyway because it worked great
The working unit with all that crap fixed
The prototype- no thermostat, wrong size resistors, no motor speed control,
original (wrong) fan locations covered with masking tape. Ran it for 7 years
anyway because it worked great
The working unit with all that crap fixed
tonydash
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hey guys, my bud has been drying for about 3 days now. (the first batch). They shrunk down quite a bit and the outsides are starting to get "crispy". The bud is still bendy though and the stems are still green and very bendy.
The stems I am hanging the bud from are rather thick, is this why they are not drying out so quickly? Will the bud be overdry by the time the stems are "snappy"?
When I put the bud into mason jars will they get soft and plump again?
The stems I am hanging the bud from are rather thick, is this why they are not drying out so quickly? Will the bud be overdry by the time the stems are "snappy"?
When I put the bud into mason jars will they get soft and plump again?
hom36rown
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dry it till the stem is dry, not the branch; the buds shouldnt be overdry if you do it right, I would suggest at this point, or maybe in another day or so, that you clip the buds off the branch and throw em in brown paper bags and let them finish completely drying in them in the bag.
heres a good article by dj short on how to dry/cure properly CC10: Cure Your Medicine
heres a good article by dj short on how to dry/cure properly CC10: Cure Your Medicine
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Dry them until the stem within the bud is still a bit bendy but the outer part of the bud is quite stiff. Then you can put them in an airtight container, where moisture from inside the bud will wick to the outside, takes a day or so.
tonydash
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thanks Al B. Fuct, i am going to move a lot of the smaller branches into mason jars now.
Should I take each individual bud off the main stem by it's own stem or leave multiple buds on the larger branch?
I'm guessing I will take them off of the larger branch so its only the stem inside the bud where it attaches to the larger branch correct?
Should I take each individual bud off the main stem by it's own stem or leave multiple buds on the larger branch?
I'm guessing I will take them off of the larger branch so its only the stem inside the bud where it attaches to the larger branch correct?
Greymattertripp
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Delta-9 THC changes from its acidic state into a neutral ph state during the curing process thus making not only taste better but more potent.fdd2blk, I feel very confident that none of the authors you cite had a low-temp dryer like mine.
Moreover, have you ever noticed how incestuous many grow books are? They frequently and liberally thieve unproven information from one another- and don't bother to add anything to the proof before printing it. When they do come up with something novel, it's not usually proven with any logical or scientific method.
Let's look at your quotes:
RELAX THC "particles"?
What, do they put their little feet up and click on the teev?
Hey, there's some science...
Compared to... what? You've taken this out of the context it was written in. What 'quick dry' methods does the author cite as being bad?
I'll be the first to admit that attempting to dry buds with a microwave or conventional oven will yield harsh and nasty smoking buds. This is most likely what the author is warning against.
If 'curing' simply means "waiting for 'x' period of time," with the expectation that chlorophyll will break down into simpler organic components (mainly into simple sugars), I'll bite.
...however, Mg is an element all by itself and isn't going to break down, no matter how long you wait.
While Mg is a central ion in chlorophyll, this sounds unlikely- and fairly hard to prove, one way or the other.
Magnesium doesn't have much of a flavour that I can tell from either sucking on a broken piece of a motorcycle crankcaseor from Epsom Salts (MgSO4). Haven't tried to smoke much of it- magnesium, especially finely powdered pure Mg, burns a little too enthusiastically for my bong, thanks.
The logical way to prove or disprove this is to 'quick dry' (presuming oven/microwave, etc), 'dehydrate' and 'cure' samples of something else which has chlorophyll in it- and smoke it. Lettuce, maybe?
Harsh smoking weed is most likely overdried and thus burns too hot and fast. Adding a little humidity back in solves the problem.
What's he mean by 'properly cured'?
Wait- wait... is it presence of magnesium or lack of aerobic bacterial activity which causes harshness? Mr Green should go talk that one over with Mr Edwards- and get their stories straight.
fdd2blk, why don't you go cook up a low-temp dehydrator and try it, compared to your favoured hang drying? Just by doing the experiment, you'll instantly have more information than most grow book authors.
You obviously are smoking such low quality cannabis you cannot tell the difference.
Greymattertripp
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How do I change the words under my name?
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
yes!
Please provide a reference to peer-reviewed scientific literature on the topic which can be independently verified. To us, you're just a noob with 3 posts on RIU and have not established any credibility, but even if you had a million posts, you're not believable unless you can support your statements.
Simply, you won't be able to provide this reference. There's nothing you can do to improve potency of harvested buds. THC is a very unstable molecule and breaks down into non psychoactive isomers readily. The very best you can do is to not damage potency.
Why yes, talking shit about things of which you quite obviously have NO clue DOES make you more believable.
You can fuck off now.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Wow, you can't even manage to read the board FAQ yet you deign to instruct us on your world of knowledge about THC chemistry.
Amazing.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
BIG oops. 
hom36rown
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Drying bud converts THC to it neutral state, not curing...when you cure bud there is usually still some moisture in the bud , which dries slowly during the curing process, so in a way bud can get more potent as it cures, but only because it is still drying...but for the most part curing is for taste...atleast thats what this post says, I just regurgetated it for you guys 
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/18291-does-curing-affect-potency.html#post184231
makes sense to me
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/18291-does-curing-affect-potency.html#post184231
makes sense to me
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
'neutral state'? As opposed to Park or Drive states, I suppose.Drying bud converts THC to it neutral state, not curing...when you cure bud there is usually still some moisture in the bud , which dries slowly during the curing process, so in a way bud can get more potent as it cures, but only because it is still drying...but for the most part curing is for taste...atleast thats what this post says, I just regurgetated it for you guys
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/18291-does-curing-affect-potency.html#post184231
makes sense to me
WTF kind of science is that? Answer: It's NOT science!
'Curing' is a method suiting tobacco leaf but is not necessary with cannabis. All you need do is reduce the moisture content of buds to about 2-3% and they're good to go.
There's a number of problems in the post you cited. Aging is not a good thing for THC. Every scientific study I can find on THC (and I'm talking about good, peer-reviewed stuff, not gasbagging on cannabis forums) indicates that even with good storage conditions, THC breaks down into non-psychoactive isomers CBD & CBN with time. Fresh bud is more potent bud.