USA move closer to equality in wages

[Lucky Luke]

you're presenting the big Mac argument.....thevox big Mac is smaller and your teenagers that McWork there make less than minimum.

this chart appears to demonstrate that healthcare isn't actually free....

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Not arguing at all. mealry mentioned it..I have no idea of the size difference...is that due to how obese America is? (little dig..lol)

Heathcare is free to end user, like all first world countries apart from America,

Chart is the min weekly wage rising over the years..Person on min wage does not pay into the healthcare subsidy as they dont earn enough..to them its 100% free.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Average Hourly Rate for McDonalds Australia Employees
Job National Hourly Rate Data
Kitchen Hand AU$18.00
Waiter/Waitress AU$17.08
Retail Shift Supervisor AU$17.67
Cook, Fast Food AU$18.29
www.payscale.com/research/AU/Employer=McDonalds_Australia/Hourly_Rate


As i said..around $20 an hr

 

[Lucky Luke]

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if y'all got into a war or something, what do you think the min wage would be in a few years after that.....somewhere around what you make now?

Umm..we have been at war for over a decade......

Your just being silly and argumentative now.

 

[Lucky Luke]

You can try to spin it any way you want.
A livable min wage linked to inflation is a good thing.

 

[twostrokenut]

Not arguing at all. mealry mentioned it..I have no idea of the size difference...is that due to how obese America is? (little dig..lol)

Heathcare is free to end user, like all first world countries apart from America,

Chart is the min weekly wage rising over the years..Person on min wage does not pay into the healthcare subsidy as they dont earn enough..to them its 100% free.

the chart shows wage rising due to inflation. inflation is how government finances things like healthcare and wars. pegging min wage I would say is a good incentive to encourage your politicians to at least show a little fiscal restraint.

 

[Lucky Luke]

the chart shows wage rising due to inflation. inflation is how government finances things like healthcare and wars. pegging min wage I would say is a good incentive to encourage your politicians to at least show a little fiscal restraint.

if America didnt keep dragging us into all of their stupid wars would also help out our current debt. But thats all another story. What we do works here. But the thread is about America and the problem you lot have to face up and find a solution to..and the hard part doing something about it. The divide between the haves and have not's their appears to be huge .Didn't America once have min wages linked to inflation? Seems i remember something from back in my economics class days..??

 

[twostrokenut]

Average Hourly Rate for McDonalds Australia Employees
Job National Hourly Rate Data
Kitchen Hand AU$18.00
Waiter/Waitress AU$17.08
Retail Shift Supervisor AU$17.67
Cook, Fast Food AU$18.29
www.payscale.com/research/AU/Employer=McDonalds_Australia/Hourly_Rate


As i said..around $20 an hr

dude Macca's has an enterprise agreement. they rely heavily on their teenagers that make $7/hr to remain profitable. portions are smaller and prices are higher.

 

[Lucky Luke]

that's why I chose scotch fillets which can't really be spun or twisted....

But not really accurate either as Meat prices vary from country to country due to other factors besides rates of pay.
I think using the staples like Milk and Bread is far more accurate and linking them to the min wage.

Out of interest What is your price their and min wage?

Also everything has to be taken into account. Like the cost for heath insurance, super annuation,paid leave per year, sick days,fuel,electricity, water..its a big equation trying to compare apples with peaches. I think Norway or some country around their has the highest tax's but the happiest people....

 

[twostrokenut]

if America didnt keep dragging us into all of their stupid wars would also help out our current debt. But thats all another story. What we do works here. But the thread is about America and the problem you lot have to face up and find a solution to..and the hard part doing something about it. The divide between the haves and have not's their appears to be huge .Didn't America once have min wages linked to inflation? Seems i remember something from back in my economics class days..??

I don't think so. the struggle I see here is those that work vs those that dont seem to want to.

 

[Lucky Luke]

dude Macca's has an enterprise agreement. they rely heavily on their teenagers that make $7/hr to remain profitable. portions are smaller and prices are higher.

umm..my son worked at Maccas..he was on 17 bucks an hr..(3 yeas ago). he is now an apprentice roof tiler thank fk

I"ll PM his fiancee and see what her hrly rate is. She is a manager at Maccas.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I don't think so. the struggle I see here is those that work vs those that dont seem to want to.

i hear ya..i struggle to work my 4 hrs a day..i had today off due to me being lazy..lol

 

[UncleBuck]

the chart shows wage rising due to inflation. inflation is how government finances things like healthcare and wars. pegging min wage I would say is a good incentive to encourage your politicians to at least show a little fiscal restraint.

are you still crying about inflation?

shouldn't have bought a fucking trailer.

 

[UncleBuck]

umm..my son worked at Maccas..he was on 17 bucks an hr..(3 yeas ago). he is now an apprentice roof tiler thank fk

I"ll PM his fiancee and see what her hrly rate is. She is a manager at Maccas.

as you can see, our right wing contingent just makes shit up constantly.

nothing they say ever has any basis in fact.

 

[Lucky Luke]

as you can see, our right wing contingent just makes shit up constantly.

nothing they say ever has any basis in fact.

ill wait till i get a current hrly rate answer before i say to much there...PM has been sent but she is On holiday up in the big smoke. (even Macca workers here can afford holidays in a different state..)

 

[Lucky Luke]

She got back to me fast..damn kids and their phones!

$22:16 an hr is the answer, plus public holiday rates and night shift allowances etc.

Which marries in to the chart i posted a little earlier

 

[UncleBuck]

She got back to me fast..damn kids and their phones!

$22:16 an hr is the answer, plus public holiday rates and night shift allowances etc.

Which marries in to the chart i posted a little earlier

damn, twopump has been lying his ass off for the longest time and just hoping we would accept his false reality as fact.

What's the best way to keep my BigMacs priced where I want them to be?

Australia did it with smaller burgers and and min wage loopholes for teenagers.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Interestingly if Americas Min wage kept pace with production it would be at $21.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/minimum-wage-productivity_n_2680639

And this argues against people being fired.- 'While advancements in technology have increased the amount of goods and services that can be produced in a set amount of time, wages have remained relatively flat, the study points out".

 

[twostrokenut]

But not really accurate either as Meat prices vary from country to country due to other factors besides rates of pay.
I think using the staples like Milk and Bread is far more accurate and linking them to the min wage.

Out of interest What is your price their and min wage?

Also everything has to be taken into account. Like the cost for heath insurance, super annuation,paid leave per year, sick days,fuel,electricity, water..its a big equation trying to compare apples with peaches. I think Norway or some country around their has the highest tax's but the happiest people....

I think that was Denmark. they have no min wage, a corporate tax half of ours and we subsidize their defense budget.

 

[twostrokenut]

She got back to me fast..damn kids and their phones!

$22:16 an hr is the answer, plus public holiday rates and night shift allowances etc.

Which marries in to the chart i posted a little earlier

She's a teenager?

 

[twostrokenut]

damn, twopump has been lying his ass off for the longest time and just hoping we would accept his false reality as fact.

consumer prices are 41% higher in oz
rent prices are 58% higher
restaurant bills are 45% higher
groceries are 28% higher

despite the higher min wage local purchasing power in oz is 22% lower than the us.

Here’s the interesting part: Australian’s average monthly disposable income after taxes is only 14.75% more than the U.S. With a 41% increase in consumer prices, Australian’s monthly disposable income purchases 33% less than that of their U.S. counterparts.

and that's with "free" healthcare.