Should tipping be abolished?

Should tipping be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 43.5%

  • No

    Votes: 13 56.5%
  • Total voters
    23
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Big_Lou said:
*Excellent

Now can we hear from someone that has actually held a job?
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Dood.

My first career was restaurant service and it did a great job of putting me through college- in part because it sucked bad enough that I had incentive to get my degree!

And that's why I tip generously for good service with a smile; because just maybe I'm helping out someone like me.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Flaming Pie said:
Tipping encourages the person to offer excellant service.

I've known some ladies that could rake in 200 bucks a night a tips. In a pancake house.
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So, what, do jobs that don't accept tips all give horrible service?

It seems to me that tipping is not what denotes the quality of the service
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Padawanbater2 said:
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" -MLK
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Yes, that's a good quote, but inappropriate for you to claim it.

Setting business terms for others via force is a form of extortion.

The involved parties to a transaction can agree or disagree, if they agree, justice requires honoring what has been agreed to.

If they don't agree at the onset and can't come to terms, justice requires either party is free to walk away, say "no thank you" and seek their terms elsewhere.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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ttystikk said:
Aha! We actually DO agree on something!

It had to happen sooner or later, lol
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Oh come now. You wouldn't want to be seen agreeing with me.

Gonna lose brownie points with buck.

:lol:

I think we agree on much but differ slightly on the best way to attain those goals.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Padawanbater2 said:
So, what, do jobs that don't accept tips all give horrible service?

It seems to me that tipping is not what denotes the quality of the service
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The whole point of going out to eat is to have someone else serve you food. A quick, charming, and effective server will improve your dining experience greatly and guarantee return business. A big tip is what entices them to be smiley and accurate with orders.

Pay them minimum wage and they will do the bare minimum because improved service offers no rewards. Just enough is done to please the boss not the customer.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Rob Roy said:
Yes, that's a good quote, but inappropriate for you to claim it.

Setting business terms for others via force is a form of extortion.

The involved parties to a transaction can agree or disagree, if they agree, justice requires honoring what has been agreed to.

If they don't agree at the onset and can't come to terms, justice requires either party is free to walk away, say "no thank you" and seek their terms elsewhere.
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This only works in a perfect world where people are not forced into agreements by pure circumstance. Like the guy who will take $2 an hour just to feed himself because the alternative option is starving. Entering into and accepting that "agreement" is already a form of extortion, you are exploiting his work on the basis of his survival. He has no option but to accept if he wishes to survive.

It doesn't work like that in the real world.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Flaming Pie said:
The whole point of going out to eat is to have someone else serve you food. A quick, charming, and effective server will improve your dining experience greatly and guarantee return business. A big tip is what entices them to be smiley and accurate with orders.

Pay them minimum wage and they will do the bare minimum because improved service offers no rewards. Just enough is done to please the boss not the customer.
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Do you receive worse service from industries that do not accept tips?
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Rob Roy said:
Yes, that's a good quote, but inappropriate for you to claim it.

Setting business terms for others via force is a form of extortion.

The involved parties to a transaction can agree or disagree, if they agree, justice requires honoring what has been agreed to.

If they don't agree at the onset and can't come to terms, justice requires either party is free to walk away, say "no thank you" and seek their terms elsewhere.
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Plus if an employee does not like being reimbursed by tip they can go get an hourly wage job. Nothing is stoping them from quitting.

If enough people quit the boss might wise up and pay more. On the other hand.. people who are good at serving others with a smile will get paid 4-600 bucks a week. A nice wage.

Work at a nicer restaurant and your wage climbs. People generally tip 15-20%. Unless you suck.
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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Padawanbater2 said:
This only works in a perfect world where people are not forced into agreements by pure circumstance. Like the guy who will take $2 an hour just to feed himself because the alternative option is starving. Entering into and accepting that "agreement" is already a form of extortion, you are exploiting his work on the basis of his survival. He has no option but to accept if he wishes to survive.

It doesn't work like that in the real world.
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Pardon him, Rob Roy can't grasp the concept of basic human dignity.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
Plus if an employee does not like being reimbursed by tip they can go get an hourly wage job. Nothing is stoping them from quitting.

If enough people quit the boss might wise up and pay more. On the other hand.. people who are good at serving others with a smile will get paid 4-600 bucks a week. A nice wage.

Work at a nicer restaurant and your wage climbs. People generally tip 15-20%. Unless you suck.
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400 bucks a week is known as "below the poverty line" for a family like yours.

but i guess that's still better than living on welfare.
 
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