a mongo frog
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Your lying and you know it. Everyones pics on here are real and their own.
24 hour light vs. 18/6.
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Bangaman
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No need for name calling. I simply do not see value in CanaPorn. What do your Canna pics teach me besides plant desease
Skunk Baxter
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Jesus, lighten up, man. He's joking.
Look, you obviously know your shit., but this tends to be a friendly community. There's no need to be so prickly. Relax and take it as it comes - we have all kinds here, and most people who post here are generally happy with the results they get. They like learning more about the subject, but they mostly enjoy doing it the way they do it. Not everyone comes here to get bitch-slapped for not having a sufficiently advanced degree in botany.
old shol4evr
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i agree with that statement,think we screwed up a lot of wonderful strains in the days,i would really like to smoke some good old plain jane columbine,have tasted some that claim to be ,but doesnt compare at all,i make my own strains ,just for me,im looking to find a great body pain med but want a happy get your ass to work mix in it,the one im working now,is great fucking head high smoke for a hour and then takes control of the limbs and last for 4 hours on me just smoking half a doob a whole jiont will knock your ass out,im looking at a happy medium,god head buzz and numb pain,i got 2 back there now making seeds,hoping on that happy medium,they still got 4 more weeks,mama jedi kush,bushy little fuckers no stretch at all,crossed with bubblegirl massive yeilder,cross of both should be interesting,but ya i feel ya on the seed making thing,i started making my own because i dont like clones and seeds are like fucking gold these days,crazy names and false representation on them,so i make my own,even if they dont give me good yield it was smoke i made and enjoy,and main thing not spending a whole weekend looking for a lid,so anything off them is good for me,lmao
old shol4evr
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ya i was trying to say that earlier,but just got a thrashing,but hey everone got a right to there own opinion,thats what makes it so interesting
Bangaman
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Well, I could have gone further in college but I was too busy GROWING, SMOKING and counting Jacksons. I do have to give MJ credit for my Masters, With a BA in Bio and no job prospects or real work experience back in the 90s, I had to stick around academia and keep doing what I had been doing for 4 years, GROWING, SMOKING and counting Jacksons. I came highly recommended for grad school by a few good old professors who had a genuine interest in me sticking around and you know why...TA positions opened up real wide and the rest is history my kids will never know. I should have stuck around for a PhD but that three year summer I got really high and then came the fuckits. So I continued doing what I really learned in college, GROWING, SMOKING and counting Jacksons.
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Dear ol" Thankful Grower!
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Imma just chime in with my experience I think both work well but I do believe its more about what your environment is like I know when i run 24/7 it tends to have temps fluctuate because at night to morning temps are a solid 72-76 degrees fahrenheit while during the daytime it goes from 72-92 degrees for this reason I leave it on 18/6 also saving a lil helps to but lets say if I had a full blown air conditioner or grow in a basemen id let em go 24/7 because then heat isnt the issue and thatd be worth splurging on in fact i just might have to buy a unit
since1991
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Skunk said "prickly"....lol. Thats funny and a good word...prickly. Lol. Good one Skunk.
since1991
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Hey broseph...if you want a pure body pain better than Norco bullshit try Herijuana. If you pick the rite pheno it is some of the most pain relieving night time opiate like cannabis ibe ever tried. Never grew it but a friend does for Chrons disease. Hes no longer on them poison opiate patches.
skunkwreck
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Damn you went to college and counted Jackson's ? I only finished high school and I count Benjamin's .
old shol4evr
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ive heard of that one ,never tried it though,that purple train wreck is great shit to,but damn you be sinking your ass into a lazy boy,if the body numb would stay there and have a bit more head high would be perfect
Chunky Stool
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I listen to others but believe my own eyes. Scientific proof is nice, but not required for my eyeballs.
since1991
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What ya do is pat attention to the scientific jargon and apply the techniques and methods based on it and see if it works in the real world and your own setup. I been paying attention to how the greenhouse industry does things....and its quite different somewhat to what we "hobbyists" do. I figure the greenhouse crop growers dont fuk around. They cant. They employ methods that work...bottom line. So i pay close attention to what they are up to. Just about everything we do or are doing they have beem doing it. In alot of methods at least. One way iam going to be getting down is using coco coir slabs again. If i can find some that fit my stacks of old dutch libra trays.
Chunky Stool
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Coco slabs are like a box of chocolates...
This can actually work to your advantage after you figure out how they differ. There's a product called "Beats Peat" that is thoroughly rinsed and buffered to a ph of 7. Perfect for soil mixes but sucks for 100% coco grow unless you readjust ph back to 6 ish. Cost = $11
Then there's the el cheapo blocks that are dusty and need to be rinsed multiple times. Ph is perfect for 100% coco grow. Cost = $7.50
yeah, also we have recipes for disaster. Hid: from 20000lux to 80000 paired with your best ever, simple & handy buffer [outlaw humidity] and you are done with 24/7
since1991
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Canna sells a regular coir slab besides the Cogr boards. Reapl no different than loose bag or the new canna brick. Its prebuffered. I think they fit the dutch libral trays too for super easy dtw management for me. 10 bucks a slab...but you prolly have to order them as the stores in america dont stock canna coir slabs. No one in this country uses them which i dont understand. Super low clearance. Easy to manage. More root growth. Not to mention if one of the drippers clog they still have 2 or 3 more to keep plants chugging along. Just pop 3 or 4 4"rockwool blocks or small 4" pots of coir with the bottom cut out. Pop a dripper stake near each site. Slit bottom of the slab for drainage....bam. For my low height basemnt the advantages are huge. Almost like beds of coir but you can run seperate veg and bloom rooms and perpetual if you use the trays. Just slide the dutch trays with the slab out the veg room....pop em in the bloom area...plug in the drip stakes and direct the elbows for runoff.
since1991
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Oh another advantage...when i ised to run slabs with rockwool blocks on top....with a little duct tape to tape the "x" slits where the blocks sit on the slabs ....fungus gnats get so pissed from not having spots to lay larvae they kinda just quit sticking around. Big plus.
Bangaman
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WOW, Your peeps pay in Benjamins. Well in college I never sold "Benjamin Bags" if there is such a thing, just 1/8ths and 1 ounces so I counted Lots of jacksons
Bangaman
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The thing about your statement is that what you see (the conclusion) is the result of the science (the whole story, the plot, and the main players).
When Joe Grow shows you a picture of his monster plant that he said is a result of changing XYZ to ZYX he made, you are missing ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVW factos that the XYZ change did or did not change.
Here is the clincher, without the science you will never know if changing XYZ to ZYX is what actually caused the monster crop or was it thatif changing XYZ to ZYX under HIS CURRENT ARRANGEMENT ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVW that did it. Your Q maybe where his A is.
Case in point, Joe Grow typically has 9 ounces per plant on 24/0, Bro tells him to switch to 18/6 for a bigger yield, he has proof in pictures. Joe Grow tries and gets nothing more worth telling. Joe College takes Joe Grow's advice gets a pound more per plant and swears by Bro's science.
Well, actual science proves 18/6 does zilch for c3 and c4 plants. So WTF?
Truth is, if you look closely at Joe College's setup, he most likely did something else that without science he will never know. By this time a new sheriff is in town, the word is out and everyone is doing 18/6 in hopes of getting Joe College's results or better.
Across the growers, their results look like the NY skyline, some huge, some tiny., some medium and some no change. The scientific Truth is hat 18/6 had nothing to do with any results but their individual setups, nute regimens, PH, RH, Temp, CO2, Genetics, wattage/sq foot and the list goes on.
At this point Joe Grow simply thinks he is a bad gardener. Science saves you time & money, increases your yield, and boosts your confidence that you are not guessing results from pictures