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[RM3]

that was my experience too when i was running 10kw. they didn't really smell until you started man-handling them

yeah if I slap em they stink hard and fast LOL

 

[skunkd0c]

yeah if I slap em they stink hard and fast LOL

The difference between the smell in the room at lights on and off is pretty big
the heat and the photons from the light will agitate the plants into releasing some smell

so your plants do smell, you are saying none of this is released into the air
when you disturb your plants or chop them they smell

not enough smell is released for your nose or the nose of your buddies to detect either
you must all be over 70 with nasal hair down to your feet LOL

 

[Chunky Stool]

i have stinkless strains that will run someone out of the room when dry, but i've had super stinky plants too... the oscillating fan seemed to make them put the smell out

Based on recent events, the low stink theory seems to be legit. My latest round of plants were skunky when they started but the smell faded as they settled in. After repotting, the smell came back but faded again. I recently changed grow room temp and boom! Smell is back. They clearly don't like the change.
It is unlikely that what I've observed is strain-specific, but it's still possible, given my sample size (statistics term).

 

[st0wandgrow]

Nothing in what you posted ,,,, no ?

Are you in a tent ? Do your plants have access to normal barometric pressure ? Are your lights to close ?

No tent. My flower room is 14x10, with 3000 watts of HID, 10' ceiling, and I keep the lights 18"-24" from the top of the canopy. I have 18 plants in there at all times in various stages of growth. All 3 lights are on a light rail moving over head

 

[RM3]

not enough smell is released for your nose or the nose of your buddies to detect either
you must all be over 70 with nasal hair down to your feet LOL

There you go negating those young swat team members with big guns LOL

 

[RM3]

No tent. My flower room is 14x10, with 3000 watts of HID, 10' ceiling, and I keep the lights 18"-24" from the top of the canopy. I have 18 plants in there at all times in various stages of growth. All 3 lights are on a light rail moving over head

Can ya raise the lights ?

You have your HID's closer than I have my T5's

 

[RM3]

Based on recent events, the low stink theory seems to be legit. My latest round of plants were skunky when they started but the smell faded as they settled in. After repotting, the smell came back but faded again. I recently changed grow room temp and boom! Smell is back. They clearly don't like the change.
It is unlikely that what I've observed is strain-specific, but it's still possible, given my sample size (statistics term).

Been sayin it for many years, Happy plants don't stink, now some take offense to me usin the word happy but it's still true that in the right conditions they simply don't stink

 

[st0wandgrow]

Can ya raise the lights ?

You have your HID's closer than I have my T5's

Yes.

I will try that. 36" optimal?

 

[RM3]

Yes.

I will try that. 36" optimal?

I would say play with it and see how they respond ?

 

[Sativied]

i just watch them grow faster when its hotter, and they drink more too
maybe ill write a book about it one day lol

You should call it "Cold Plants Don't Drink" or how about "Warm Plants Don't Grow Slow" lol

i also find that the leaves during veg type growth can vary hugely in smell and i find this is often overlooked

Yes, I can for example easily smell the pinene in my P cross during veg already.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/004565359500006T
"It was suggested that the terpene emission varied with leaf oil production."
They keywords say a lot too:
"terpene emission from trees, leaf oil production, contact stimulation, forced emission, influence of temperature and light". Multiple factors and varies per season.

Another one: "Maximum emissions of α-pinene occurred in spring and maximum emissions of limonene in winter."
So the influencing factors temp and light can affect different "smell" differently itself. They also emit at different rates. For cannabis forums that translates to: it depends on the strain.


Happy plants don't smell" is a good title for its purpose but paints a false dilemma imo. Terpene emission is rather normal for trees and plants. It can be practically zero for some species though. For example, "Aliens emit more than natives" (Measurement of volatile terpene emissions in 70 dominant vascular plant species in Hawaii)

None of the aliens emit zero. The main difference is that natives are at home, adjusted over thousands of years, while aliens are arguably not as happy in their relatively new environment.

Unhappy (abiotic and physologically stressed, both considered harmful) plants do emit more terpenes but it just seems unlikely that all cannabis varieties are plants that can reduces terpene emission to zero especially when used to grow sinsemilla and are usually a combination of genes from various places across the world.

 

[Chunky Stool]

You should call it "Cold Plants Don't Drink" or how about "Warm Plants Don't Grow Slow" lol


Yes, I can for example easily smell the pinene in my P cross during veg already.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/004565359500006T
"It was suggested that the terpene emission varied with leaf oil production."
They keywords say a lot too:
"terpene emission from trees, leaf oil production, contact stimulation, forced emission, influence of temperature and light". Multiple factors and varies per season.

Another one: "Maximum emissions of α-pinene occurred in spring and maximum emissions of limonene in winter."
So the influencing factors temp and light can affect different "smell" differently itself. They also emit at different rates. For cannabis forums that translates to: it depends on the strain.


Happy plants don't smell" is a good title for its purpose but paints a false dilemma imo. Terpene emission is rather normal for trees and plants. It can be practically zero for some species though. For example, "Aliens emit more than natives" (Measurement of volatile terpene emissions in 70 dominant vascular plant species in Hawaii)

None of the aliens emit zero. The main difference is that natives are at home, adjusted over thousands of years, while aliens are arguably not as happy in their relatively new environment.

Unhappy (abiotic and physologically stressed, both considered harmful) plants do emit more terpenes but it just seems unlikely that all cannabis varieties are plants that can reduces terpene emission to zero especially when used to grow sinsemilla and are usually a combination of genes from various places across the world.

I have never experienced *zero* smell, but when my plants are happy, the odor can be easily managed with an open jar of Ona.

 

[RM3]

Happy plants don't smell" is a good title for its purpose but paints a false dilemma imo.

Good stuff my friend, but doesn't explain why other growers have duplicated my results ?

 

[Sativied]

Good stuff my friend, but doesn't explain why other growers have duplicated my results ?

Wasn't trying to either. I'm not entirely disagreeing and could make a few good arguments that support your claim just as well. I just see no conclusive science either way. As much as I consider cannabis just a plant, it is in this context a very special plant.

You're asking me to trust your nose and those of others while I wouldn't even consider my own a scientificaly reliable sensor that could logically lead to your hard claim. I like to be nuanced but something like "Unhealthy plants generally smell far less than healthy plants" doesn't make a good book title.

I have never experienced *zero* smell, but when my plants are happy, the odor can be easily managed with an open jar of Ona.

A claim easier to defend and agree with but still has to lead to the obvious questions: how to you determine the happiness level, and how to you equate that to a better product?

Feel free to answer but those questions are rethorical. (My bud still smells after drying and curing doesn't count . There is only one way to know and that is too measure. The production of terpenes is continous, not only do unhappy plants emit more, they can produce more, so my real question is, are you claiming less terpene emission means more terpenes in the dried bud? If yes, has anynone tested, if no, are you not worried you sacrifice results for savings on a carbon filter?

 

[UncleBuck]

Good stuff my friend, but doesn't explain why other growers have duplicated my results ?

if i duplicated your results i would quit forever.

 

[RM3]

if i duplicated your results i would quit forever.

I thought you already had ?

 

[UncleBuck]

I thought you already had ?

no, i prduce healthy plants which actually have buds on them, instead of 20" worth of ragged leaves and wispy hairs.

 

[RM3]

no, i prduce healthy plants which actually have buds on them, instead of 20" worth of ragged leaves and wispy hairs.

I meant quit LOL

 

[RM3]

no, i prduce healthy plants which actually have buds on them, instead of 20" worth of ragged leaves and wispy hairs.

And for what it's worth that high CBD Hash Plant was turned into oil for a friend

 

[UncleBuck]

And for what it's worth that high CBD Hash Plant was turned into oil for a friend

not sure i believe you since that picture was posted with you bragging about the size of the "cola", if you can even call it that.

 

[RM3]

not sure i believe you since that picture was posted with you bragging about the size of the "cola", if you can even call it that.

I'm not the one that named plant parts, so when I say cola with regard to plants (not soda) I am merely parroting what I have learned, some what like so many others LOL