Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

[NLXSK1]

yeah right. you starting to forget your own bullshit now

I explain the realities of life to you guys and you just tell me that I am lying because it completely disproves your hypothetical bullshit. Sorry to burst your bubble but holding your hands over your eyes and saying it isnt so does not change reality.

 

[NLXSK1]

@Flaming Pie you stated that our government should not be running a deficient. You do realize that welfare does contribute to our deficient. Whats the reason for a woman with a husband to be on welfare, which is contributing to our deficient ?

It is his fault the way the welfare system is structured?

Why dont you marry and support her?

 

[londonfog]

I explain the realities of life to you guys and you just tell me that I am lying because it completely disproves your hypothetical bullshit. Sorry to burst your bubble but holding your hands over your eyes and saying it isnt so does not change reality.

real business owners understand how you are lying. Now run along

 

[londonfog]

It is his fault the way the welfare system is structured?

Why dont you marry and support her?

Hell I support her now and I'm already happily married. I'm just curious how a woman with a husband in the home would need welfare. It's possible, I'm just curious. I also want her to understand that welfare does contribute to the deficit

 

[ttystikk]

What you said in your first sentence is your own conclusion and not very wise. There are two instances when deficit spending is necessary, war and recession. The first instance was a ginned up one by a right wing president. The second was inherited from that right wing president.

When I look at the graphs you posted earlier, I'm surprised that anybody would not see the opportunity lost in the first decade of this century when GBjr ran up the debt during a time in which the economy was in good shape. The recession which started at the end of GBjr's term was adroitly handled by a leader who knew better than to cut spending in the teeth of an economic downturn. The last president to use spending cuts in an attempt to control the deficit during a downturn was Hoover, also a Republican. By 2015, one can see that Obama's work in this area is done and the deficit is no longer growing. So thanks for the graphic.

This bit about deficit projections is funny in that all the right wing candidates will make it worse if they have their way. Sanders is the only one who is serious about cutting it by increasing taxes and programs that will stimulate growth in this economy. Everybody else is same-same or same-worse.

So I guess this begs the question; is the American electorate comfortable with being continually lied to by their would-be representatives?

I'm kinda tired of it, personally, but I've been pretty consistently outvoted so far.

 

[ttystikk]

Hell I support her now and I'm already happily married. I'm just curious how a woman with a husband in the home would need welfare. It's possible, I'm just curious. I also want her to understand that welfare does contribute to the deficit

If hubby works at Walmart, they're both on welfare, genius. Medicaid, too. How is that NOT an unfair and unreasonable subsidy of the world's largest retailer by the American taxpayer?! Or haven't you been paying attention to wages vs earning power? Then again, maybe you too tell your employees to get Medicaid.

 

[NLXSK1]

Hell I support her now and I'm already happily married. I'm just curious how a woman with a husband in the home would need welfare. It's possible, I'm just curious. I also want her to understand that welfare does contribute to the deficit

It contributes to the deficit because the government pays it.

That is like them now taking on healthcare and complaining about the cost. The government instituted welfare and is making the payments...

 

[desert dude]

P.T. Barnum was right. There is a sucker born every minute.

 

[londonfog]

If hubby works at Walmart, they're both on welfare, genius. Medicaid, too. How is that NOT an unfair and unreasonable subsidy of the world's largest retailer by the American taxpayer?! Or haven't you been paying attention to wages vs earning power? Then again, maybe you too tell your employees to get Medicaid.

so everyone who works at walmart should get welfare ?

 

[londonfog]

It contributes to the deficit because the government pays it.

That is like them now taking on healthcare and complaining about the cost. The government instituted welfare and is making the payments...

I forget what my taxes pays for. Could you remind me.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

So you'd rather keep the current system of politically connected megacorps to continue stealing from you and your children instead?

The notion that the rich in this country don't have money is astonishing in its hubris.

But i ask what are they stealing from you ??? i mean really ???? your only a tenant in USA
Are they the ones that once your baby Took its first breath it ??? it already owes over 55,000 dollars of tax money ??? before your Child even made a Cent is it the Rich that did that you know them mega corps ?? i say stop being so fucking Blind its from your Government mis money management that fuked you not big mega corps , or the rich
What have the rich really done to mark them as bad ???
and for some Rich they can be very well cash struck but have assets or securities that make them rich.
For instance i have a million dollars worth of cree Cobs but can not sell them am i rich ?? but come end of the year that 1 million dollars i spent cash on becomes a taxable beniit moneys taxes paid with 0 returns in capital

Truth is even in all the campaigns going on Right now every fucking one of them are detouring the real issue and that is ...
The true horrific truth that Everyones Taxes has to double Gas, Food prices all have to be @ world prices so not only does your Taxes double so does food costs and everything else
You cannot keep putting that power bill you owe aside till next month then when the times comes a fuck it i pay it next month after that ,, They will shut off your power ..
All whats going on is pushing the real issue further further to the later part
The problem is never going to go AWAY ,, THERE IS GOING TO BE A TIME AND ITS SOONER THEN YOU THINK ..
That shit is going to really hit the fan
Sanders is another meathead when in office will do sweet fuck all like he has done as senator nothing
don't kid your self this goes way beyond the powers of the united states president
And even if sanders tries to make serious change Chances of him being the next assassinated president like Kennedy
.

 

[2ANONYMOUS]

so everyone who works at walmart should get welfare ?

And some mind you they think its the rich the mega corps that stole from them but i keep asking my self what did the steal from you ??? more welfare money lol

 

[HockeyBeard]

And some mind you they think its the rich the mega corps that stole from them but i keep asking my self what did the steal from you ??? more welfare money lol

Did you conveniently forget about how the banks crashed the economy with predatory lending and masses lost their pensions and 401k? Then got bailed out with tax payer money? They stole twice.

 

[Uncle Ben]

P.T. Barnum was right. There is a sucker born every minute.

Cannabis forums are full of sucker bets.

"I like hitting myself in the face because it feels so good when it stops."

 

[ttystikk]

so everyone who works at walmart should get welfare ?

I'm suggesting we pay everyone- yes, even Walmart workers- enough not to need government assistance. We can do this by raising the minimum wage. An interesting side effect of such a policy would be consumers with more money to spend on goods and services, perhaps even yours.

But nice try at misdirection.

 

[Fogdog]

So I guess this begs the question; is the American electorate comfortable with being continually lied to by their would-be representatives?

I'm kinda tired of it, personally, but I've been pretty consistently outvoted so far.

It could be that the tide is turning. Nader was the last true representative of the left and he had to run as a third party candidate. Sanders looks to be a strong contender for the Democratic nomination. He might not win it and if he does, his presidency will be limited by the color of congress (blue or red). In any case, the trend is not to the right but to the center and left. Still a long way to go.

 

[londonfog]

I'm suggesting we pay everyone- yes, even Walmart workers- enough not to need government assistance. We can do this by raising the minimum wage. An interesting side effect of such a policy would be consumers with more money to spend on goods and services, perhaps even yours.

But nice try at misdirection.

and what do you suggest the minimum wage for a worker with a wife and a child be.

 

[londonfog]

@Padawanbater2 It seems ttystisky got ghost on me. Do you care to answer. How much should the minimum wage be for a worker with a wife and child ?

 

[Padawanbater2]

@Padawanbater2 It seems ttystisky got ghost on me. Do you care to answer. How much should the minimum wage be for a worker with a wife and child ?

Imo the minimum wage should be a living wage depending on your location that's tied to inflation

 

[londonfog]

Imo the minimum wage should be a living wage depending on your location that's tied to inflation

give a number say Missouri, California, Colorado, NY