Best overall breeder... Thoughts ?

kmog33

kmog33

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Beemo said:
cool... watch out for your mutants...
i definitely proud to say i dont have any f2 or above in my vault....
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Mutants are what everyone in this game chases after. That's why the whole clone only thing exists at all. All that you having nowhere pat f2 means that you aren't growing for any medical need or to gain any knowledge or understanding of how important breeding specific traits in or out of strains is.

Imagine giving someone who needs adderall OxyContin. Sure, they get high, but your not adequately or correctly treating the root of the problem.


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kmog33

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genuity said:
So what "breeders" are putting out what some call stable plantspecies, like clone in seed form....

I know this honeybee f2"pollen chuck" looks like a true breed strain....
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This was found by me,in the f1 honeybee..

No real selection process, just hit the best female out the group,we its what I think is the best male...we can all do that.
It's not much thought to it....it's more about "breeder" infatuation.
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F1 generally don't have that much genetic drift. Usually 2-3 phenotype expressions. The next en gets a little crazier.


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Grojak

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kmog33 said:
Len worked that GDP for a long time. Bodhi goes and finds strains to work into his crosses and has a few true strains. Swerve is a douche and got lucky with gifted/stolen genetics, but the Buddha Tahoe cc puts out is fairly stable and uniform. Nugs all look/smell the same. I think I saw 1 mutant pheno in the 30 or so I ran from them(which is where clone onlys come from, genetic drift in true strains). Raskal has raskals og and rd1 and alien kush. They all have and use worked strains, they just also really their pollen chucked gear along the way as well. Makes tons of cash.

Most of the genetic instability in new strains these days is because breeders have take the most mutant, inbred, jenky, unstable genetics and bxd them because the nug was fire.


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Curious you say your BT's were all pretty much uniform… I've seen a few BT cuts float around and their always sativa leaning (thin leafed, stretchy) I however from a random freebie (one of 2 fem'd seeds I've popped or probably will ever pop) pulled the best BT I've found, big fat kushy leaves with that kush crinkly leaf trait… the frostiests, tastiest shit… folks say it puts off a perfumey smell mixed with lemons and pine… it's been a staple for 4 years now, never leaving my garden.
 
Beemo

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Grojak said:
You're proving to be an idiot with no personal experience… you want to talk mutants? GTFO you're polyhybrid shit will prove much more prone to mutants, hermies and overall poor health in plants… go grow some TGA and see what ya get… I'll be over here popping something that's been worked, by breeders who don't release crosses that hermie and actually grow them out have them grown out by others and tested before ever releasing them.
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here comes the slander.... and your the master/god of canna...
LOL grow some tga... i passs...
 
kmog33

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Grojak said:
Curious you say your BT's were all pretty much uniform… I've seen a few BT cuts float around and their always sativa leaning (thin leafed, stretchy) I however from a random freebie (one of 2 fem'd seeds I've popped or probably will ever pop) pulled the best BT I've found, big fat kushy leaves with that kush crinkly leaf trait… the frostiests, tastiest shit… folks say it puts off a perfumey smell mixed with lemons and pine… it's been a staple for 4 years now, never leaving my garden.
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Swerve swapped what he was crossing the Tahoe clone with once and the selfed one are selfed from his clone only. So he was doing Tahoe X sfv(male) but swapped to Tahoe X Louis xiii so there should be essentially three phenos released by cc. Sfv, King Luis and true Tahoe. I had the Luis versions I think. Fat leaves in veg.


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Grojak

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genuity said:
No real selection process, just hit the best female out the group,we its what I think is the best male...we can all do that.
It's not much thought to it....it's more about "breeder" infatuation.
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This is the difference between a breeder and a chucker… a chucker goes that one looks good and that male looks good bam F2!!

A breeder looks at his pheno's more than likely selects 2 or 3 females and possibly more than one male, documents the traits of each, the good, the bad, and starts breeding and growing out F2's til he finds the best example with the traits he's or she is looking for and selects and breeds again… each generation isolating to the trait specifics desired until ultimately having a uniformish strain… F4/F5 is typically considered stable… those fucks saying they got F9 Banana Kush are either wasting time or lying.
 
Beemo

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kmog33 said:
What's the point of hunting for a phenotype? To get one is as fire as the breeders? To get one with the cookie Dom pheno? Or the og leaning pheno? That would be really stupid if you could just go say....buy those phenotype representations and know that out of the $100 you spent on that pack of beans will all turn out the way that you want...right?
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i already know a pack is not guaranteed... so yeah.. to find what im looking for, ill prolly need a good amount of packs....
but thats not what im looking for... im looking for the next best thing/flavor.....
so please dont talk to me like a newb... guess there's no such thing as respect anymore...
 
kmog33

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genuity said:
The f1 honeybee was all over the place,the f2 puts out what you see in them pics...

Pure pollen chuck (plushberry x purple kush x gsog)
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That just means the strain wasn't stable to begin with lol and you probably received it at the f2 gen. The get more stable the more you cross them. So if you bought f1s(which is what most breeders sell right now) you're first cross would have been the f2s with crazy variation. And if you crossed then resulting beans from those or any really that had the same pheno representations, you would be getting more stable.


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genuity

genuity

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Grojak said:
This is the difference between a breeder and a chucker… a chucker goes that one looks good and that male looks good bam F2!!

A breeder looks at his pheno's more than likely selects 2 or 3 females and possibly more than one male, documents the traits of each, the good, the bad, and starts breeding and growing out F2's til he finds the best example with the traits he's or she is looking for and selects and breeds again… each generation isolating to the trait specifics desired until ultimately having a uniformish strain… F4/F5 is typically considered stable… those fucks saying they got F9 Banana Kush are either wasting time or lying.
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I did all of what you just said,can be found in the https://www.rollitup.org/t/club-600-breeding-showcase.392046/

Still just pollen chucked it...
 
kmog33

kmog33

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Beemo said:
i already know a pack is not guaranteed... so yeah.. to find what im looking for, ill prolly need a good amount of packs....
but thats not what im looking for... im looking for the next best thing/flavor.....
so please dont talk to me like a newb... guess there's no such thing as respect anymore...
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Talk to you like a newb? When did I disrespect you? You are losing a point you're making and decide to go ad hominem on everyone lol. All I did was give you information about what and why strains exist. I never said there was anything wrong with poly hybrids. Just that releasing them as new strains is dishonest.

So let's get real here now because you decided you were going to make it a personal thing, not just a sharing of experience/knowledge thing. What next big thing or flavor have you found? None, and you know why? Because you are into "pheno hunting", but don't even know what to hunt for.

The same people are coming out with the next big thing all the time because they know what traits to look for and cross with other desirable traits.


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Beemo

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kmog33 said:
Talk to you like a newb? When did I disrespect you? You are losing a point you're making and decide to go ad hominem on everyone lol. All I did was give you information about what and why strains exist. I never said there was anything wrong with poly hybrids. Just that releasing them as new strains is dishonest.

So let's get real here now because you decided you were going to make it a personal thing, not just a sharing of experience/knowledge thing. What next big thing or flavor have you found? None, and you know why? Because you are into "pheno hunting", but don't even know what to hunt for.

The same people are coming out with the next big thing all the time because they know what traits to look for and cross with other desirable traits.
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i guess you dont see it... stop lecturing me about genetics... see it now??

im hunting for the next 40% thc, since we are already at 30% with polys...
cant do that with "true breeding"
 
genuity

genuity

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kmog33 said:
That just means the strain wasn't stable to begin with lol and you probably received it at the f2 gen. The get more stable the more you cross them. So if you bought f1s(which is what most breeders sell right now) you're first cross would have been the f2s with crazy variation. And if you crossed then resulting beans from those or any really that had the same pheno representations, you would be getting more stable.


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What?

PlushBerry was all over the place f1

(Purple kush x gsog) f1 not all over the place(tester cross)

Had a very nice plushberry female, had a nice looking purple kush x gsog male....thats it.

Made the seeds (honeybee) put them seeds in soil,found that nice plant..I hit that plant with a male from the same f1 stock......put some of them in soil,found another male,hit him back to the f1 honeybee...
 
kmog33

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Beemo said:
i guess you dont see it... stop lecturing me about genetics... see it now??

im hunting for the next 40% thc, since we are already at 30% with polys...
cant do that with "true breeding"
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Yes you can... You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. What strain do you personally have that does 30% thc?


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shorelineOG

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He also claims Indians gave him granddaddy purple. Not all hybrids are equal, and a Colombian sativa crossed with a different pure sativa is not a "hybrid" like a haze x afghan. Poly hybrids have nothing to do with having intersex traits and landrace and ibl will have have hermies if you use prone stuff to bx or ibl. Hybrid VIGOR is what you see with blue dream, but not blueberry. Some crosses work and some don't. I think of myself not as a breeder but a chef, who knows that sweet fruity strains are weak. Tangie, agent orange and other strains that are sweet wouldn't get my grandmother stoned. I work with bubba, chemdawg, TX shoreline (road kill skunk) and other strains that have these aromas, fuel, skunk, pine, sour,kerosene, and ammonia/cat piss. Cross a super potent road kill skunk with a fruity strain and you neutralize the skunk and potency.
kmog33 said:
Len worked that GDP for a long time. Bodhi goes and finds strains to work into his crosses and has a few true strains. Swerve is a douche and got lucky with gifted/stolen genetics, but the Buddha Tahoe cc puts out is fairly stable and uniform. Nugs all look/smell the same. I think I saw 1 mutant pheno in the 30 or so I ran from them(which is where clone onlys come from, genetic drift in true strains). Raskal has raskals og and rd1 and alien kush. They all have and use worked strains, they just also really their pollen chucked gear along the way as well. Makes tons of cash.

Most of the genetic instability in new strains these days is because breeders have take the most mutant, inbred, jenky, unstable genetics and bxd them because the nug was fire.


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Grojak

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Beemo said:
i guess you dont see it... stop lecturing me about genetics... see it now??

im hunting for the next 40% thc, since we are already at 30% with polys...
cant do that with "true breeding"
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where is this 30% strain… and I want test results from multiple sources on same plant!! There was a shift a year or 2 ago and some dishonest fucks changed something in the way they tested strains… 25% thus far is known to be around the highest level… yes some labs have tested 32% but I don't buy that because those same labs tested 26% on strains that test at 16% all day long so I quickly became suspicious off all these claims above 30.. it just aint happening.
 
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