Cutting two weeks early then straight water under lights?!

[Buzz Buzzilla]

So I just had a thought today as I noticed a few of my huge nug steams were folded over and almost completely severed! I should first mention that I was well aware of the bent steam as I intentionally did this two weeks ago testing a theory and they were all progressing perfectly. The whole finishing, flushing, starving your plant in an effort to force the plant to use its stored leaf nutrients for bud production...sounds a lot like clonning right?....I'm not sure if this has been tested, or this is a process that is known, but after hours of searching for a study or someone doing this nothing!?...I'm considering cutting a cola with a large part of its steam and leaves...placing it in straight water via cube or hydro. I'm thinking it will finish faster also allowing many more colas per light to finish? Lastly anyone having to limit their plant count....this wouldn't be a plant so to say being a plant has roots this does not, if anything this is part of the "finishing" or "drying" process allowing more plants two weeks earlier if your worried about production...I would love to hear some feed back on this and I believe a test is in order!!! Stay tuned!!!

 

[Buzz Buzzilla]

Week 5...3 days after bend/snap
Week 7

 

[Buzz Buzzilla]

Seriously nobody? Figure someone would be all over this!!! Any thought would be appreciated and if you have experienced this with good or bad results please share!!!

 

[Leamaband]

It looks ready, trichomes are with amber. I would get harvest.

 

[Diabolical666]

let it finish out...has a cpl more wks at least. It wont sustain in just water, it needs nutrients to grow and fatten up. Be patient young grass smoker

 

[Kevin the Great]

I believe that the only way for this to work would be if you had nutrients in the watering solution or if you only did pure water for the last few days before harvest in an attempt at flushing. But, any positive effects brought on by the additional light surface would probably be more than negated by the additional stress and lack of other plant structures. In my opinion, you're thinking too hard.

 

[BobCajun]

I don't believe the cut stems could grow. Well they might grow roots in a few weeks and THEN grow if there were nutes in the water, but otherwise no. However, it might not be bad after you have the buds fully developed to cut them and put them in water under low light for a few days instead of just drying the cut stems right away. Maybe they'll get extra potent.

 

[Kevin the Great]

I don't believe the cut stems could grow. Well they might grow roots in a few weeks and THEN grow if there were nutes in the water, but otherwise no. However, it might not be bad after you have the buds fully developed to cut them and put them in water under low light for a few days instead of just drying the cut stems right away. Maybe they'll get extra potent.

Where would the extra potency come from? I could see it working as an extreme flush but the trichomes have to come from somewhere and unless there is some nutrition in the water each nug would start using its energy stores and slowly dying. As you said, the last couple days before harvest or actually directly after harvest. I think it was Vostok who was dabbling in the water cure method, he may have some insights.

 

[Joedank]

So I just had a thought today as I noticed a few of my huge nug steams were folded over and almost completely severed! I should first mention that I was well aware of the bent steam as I intentionally did this two weeks ago testing a theory and they were all progressing perfectly. The whole finishing, flushing, starving your plant in an effort to force the plant to use its stored leaf nutrients for bud production...sounds a lot like clonning right?....I'm not sure if this has been tested, or this is a process that is known, but after hours of searching for a study or someone doing this nothing!?...I'm considering cutting a cola with a large part of its steam and leaves...placing it in straight water via cube or hydro. I'm thinking it will finish faster also allowing many more colas per light to finish? Lastly anyone having to limit their plant count....this wouldn't be a plant so to say being a plant has roots this does not, if anything this is part of the "finishing" or "drying" process allowing more plants two weeks earlier if your worried about production...I would love to hear some feed back on this and I believe a test is in order!!! Stay tuned!!!

i have done this to keep plants i want to wet trim turgid overnight BUT i think the "using up stored nutes " is hogwash . plant tissues exposed to non lignified growth periods taste diffrent cured and smoked then it counterpart the slow non nitrofied microbe driven growth .

 

[BobCajun]

Where would the extra potency come from? I could see it working as an extreme flush but the trichomes have to come from somewhere and unless there is some nutrition in the water each nug would start using its energy stores and slowly dying. As you said, the last couple days before harvest or actually directly after harvest. I think it was Vostok who was dabbling in the water cure method, he may have some insights.

From the stress. Maybe it would have no noticeable effect. I've noticed that when I took cuttings from flowering plants and then picked the bud material off a few days later, it seemed more potent.

 

[Kevin the Great]

From the stress. Maybe it would have no noticeable effect. I've noticed that when I took cuttings from flowering plants and then picked the bud material off a few days later, it seemed more potent.

I mean where would the nutrition for the added potency come from? The buds might be frostier but that would be all water weight.
In the situation that you described it could be attributed to the extra growing time or the light hitting different areas after the cuttings were removed.

 

[BobCajun]

I mean where would the nutrition for the added potency come from? The buds might be frostier but that would be all water weight.
In the situation that you described it could be attributed to the extra growing time or the light hitting different areas after the cuttings were removed.

Well the resin glands are already in place at that point. Maybe they would produce more THC, from nutrients moved from leaves. You're not looking for general plant growth (weight gain), in fact you don't want anything to grow except the THC content of the glands.

 

[Kevin the Great]

Well the resin glands are already in place at that point. Maybe they would produce more THC, from nutrients moved from leaves.

In short, that's not how plants work. The energy stores in the leaves are miniscule compared to what is in the rootball and stem parts.
If it was that easy to increase potency and yield, it would be widely known.

 

[BobCajun]

In short, that's not how plants work. The energy stores in the leaves are miniscule compared to what is in the rootball and stem parts.
If it was that easy to increase potency and yield, it would be widely known.

Not if nobody ever tried it.

 

[Kevin the Great]

Not if nobody ever tried it.

True enough. Cannabis is, however, not a newly found plant with little known about it. Rather, one of the more heavily studied plants in recent history.
I'm not trying to discourage any attempts at increasing yield and potency, just giving a relatively well educated hypothesis on what would happen.
Hopefully, I am proven wrong and this will become the next big thing, but I doubt it.

 

[BobCajun]

True enough. Cannabis is, however, not a newly found plant with little known about it. Rather, one of the more heavily studied plants in recent history.
I'm not trying to discourage any attempts at increasing yield and potency, just giving a relatively well educated hypothesis on what would happen.
Hopefully, I am proven wrong and this will become the next big thing, but I doubt it.

You could probably achieve the same effect by ringing the bottom of the stems anyway.

 

[Budley Doright]

Why not just dip the whole rootball in boiling water? Believe RM3 does this..have a look. I did it years ago but can't remember going "holy shit this is way better" .

 

[Kevin the Great]

Why not just dip the whole rootball in boiling water? Believe RM3 does this..have a look. I did it years ago but can't remember going "holy shit this is way better" .

Dipping the rootball in boiling water? Why the hell would you do that?

 

[Budley Doright]

Dipping the rootball in boiling water? Why the hell would you do that?

I don't know lol. Check out RM3's thread. I read it in I believe the original how to grow weed bible in.....let's see....1974 lol. Tried it, didn't seem to work lol. It would have been Mexican bag seed as well, I was 14-15 when I started growing . I hung around with my older brother who hung with some bikers and I was a fast learner I guess lol.

 

[RM3]

I actually water the plants with boiling water. It starves the roots of O2 and simulates a flood condition. Plants are genetically programed to ferment sugars into alcohol in order to survive floods. Once you boiled, you leave the plant under the lights for 3 to 5 days (varies with strains) and watch the plant go to work fading, pullin N from the leaves as N is required to do the ferment process.

All plants do this survive floods, tis science folks

What this does is starts the cure prior to the dry and once harvested and dried your buds will smoke like they have a 10 day cure