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intenseneal

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Need to get some ducting stuff tomorrow and i will hang the new light over my ladies tomorrow. Need to make my 4" fan work with 8" duct openings on the hood.
 

GemuGrows

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I think it costs me roughly $1 per plant in nutrients, for the entire grow, from seedling to harvest. And I have 6 foot plants. :)

If you would like something more difficult, I suggest picking up a new hobby to go along with growing... because there really isn't all that much to growing a plant that could survive on it's own in most circumstances.... at least in my eyes.
I dont bother with nutes in soil, found it easier and cheaper to just roll organic. If those 2 part gh threads make you mad go check out homebrewers dynagro set ups. Cheap.

Oh and all the GH guys are just supporting Scotts
*I totally understand.

As far as I understand, GH is ultimately owned my Monsanto; not a company I want to support.

Buuuuut; if their 1 part grow/bloom product is easy as shit to use and produced quality yield. i feel like (as a hydroponic store worker) I should sell the shit to people/try it myself. Genreally I use like 15-30 different products form clone/seed-chop, but if I could use 2-5 and get the same results, am I wasting my time?

I'd rather use 15 nutes and get bomb results than use 1 nute and get bomb results, know what i'm sayin?
 

Gratefulgrowin93

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*I totally understand.

As far as I understand, GH is ultimately owned my Monsanto; not a company I want to support.

Buuuuut; if their 1 part grow/bloom product is easy as shit to use and produced quality yield. i feel like (as a hydroponic store worker) I should sell the shit to people/try it myself. Genreally I use like 15-30 different products form clone/seed-chop, but if I could use 2-5 and get the same results, am I wasting my time?

I'd rather use 15 nutes and get bomb results than use 1 nute and get bomb results, know what i'm sayin?
@GemuGrows but then again cost-effective vs results comes into play a lot, that's why i'm in organic water-only soil mixes :)
i used to use as much as 5 or 6 bottles and as few as 2, but i never got as cost-effective results, yield, and quality with organics, & the bottles were burning holes in my wallet slowly..

I probably will transition into no-till this year :) clackamas coots is the man, a lot of really kind honest people showing me his approach to gardening and i gotta try it myself at least a few cycles

but all in all brother 15 bottles is too much imo and i think a lot of people would agree, i'd look into simplifying the feed schedule if staying with the bottles, or maybe look into going to organics if that is something you would ever be open to?? but most of all good luck and happy growing!!
 
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hotrodharley

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As far as I understand, GH is ultimately owned my Monsanto; not a company I want to support.
http://bigbudsmag.com/scotts-miracle-gro-buys-general-hydroponics-marijuana-growers/

"The hydroponics industry and marijuana growers are reacting with worry and outrage at the news that Scotts Miracle-Gro (an admitted corporate criminal that sells low-end fertilizers, Monsanto’s Round-Up, and other poisons), has purchased hydroponics nutrients manufacturer General Hydroponics.

Scotts Miracle-Gro also purchased General Hydroponics affiliate “Bio-Organic Solutions” that markets products under the Vermicrop label.

The purchase was made by a Scotts Miracle-Gro front company called “Hawthorne Gardening Company,” a wholly-owned Scotts subsidiary formed in 2014."
 

Don Gin and Ton

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*I totally understand.

As far as I understand, GH is ultimately owned my Monsanto; not a company I want to support.

Buuuuut; if their 1 part grow/bloom product is easy as shit to use and produced quality yield. i feel like (as a hydroponic store worker) I should sell the shit to people/try it myself. Genreally I use like 15-30 different products form clone/seed-chop, but if I could use 2-5 and get the same results, am I wasting my time?

I'd rather use 15 nutes and get bomb results than use 1 nute and get bomb results, know what i'm sayin?
jeez man, yesterday I stopped short of saying the hydro store guys saw you coming, thinking it was a harsh statement!

If you're pushing customers to buy 15 bottles over a simple few bottle setup. You shouldn't be working in a hydro store IMO.

you wouldn't be trolling us would you?!
 

Gratefulgrowin93

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http://bigbudsmag.com/scotts-miracle-gro-buys-general-hydroponics-marijuana-growers/

"The hydroponics industry and marijuana growers are reacting with worry and outrage at the news that Scotts Miracle-Gro (an admitted corporate criminal that sells low-end fertilizers, Monsanto’s Round-Up, and other poisons), has purchased hydroponics nutrients manufacturer General Hydroponics.

Scotts Miracle-Gro also purchased General Hydroponics affiliate “Bio-Organic Solutions” that markets products under the Vermicrop label.

The purchase was made by a Scotts Miracle-Gro front company called “Hawthorne Gardening Company,” a wholly-owned Scotts subsidiary formed in 2014."
good info man i knew about General Hydro but i didn't know they owned vermicrop and all their products which are "natural and organic" lol

this industry is really getting pushed to the max full of lies, scams, corporate poisoning, etc hope a lot of people keep growing greener in my area, things are starting to change over time

it was all warehouse coco or rock wool grown buds for years, which can be nice but the stuff here in the IE/LA area was not... but past year or two i'm slowly seeing cleaner grown buds, more properly dried and cured, and in turn better oils and hashes

hope it keeps going in a better direction, we shouldn't inhale poisons knowingly and if you medicate to sleep and eat like i do then it can add up smoking bud that isn't as clean as it could be.. but that's my .02 i'm pretty baked haha smoking some killer green crack! :)
 

hotrodharley

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good info man i knew about General Hydro but i didn't know they owned vermicrop and all their products which are "natural and organic" lol

this industry is really getting pushed to the max full of lies, scams, corporate poisoning, etc hope a lot of people keep growing greener in my area, things are starting to change over time

it was all warehouse coco or rock wool grown buds for years, which can be nice but the stuff here in the IE/LA area was not... but past year or two i'm slowly seeing cleaner grown buds, more properly dried and cured, and in turn better oils and hashes

hope it keeps going in a better direction, we shouldn't inhale poisons knowingly and if you medicate to sleep and eat like i do then it can add up smoking bud that isn't as clean as it could be.. but that's my .02 i'm pretty baked haha smoking some killer green crack! :)
Your corporate bullshit and the corruption go waaaaay up!

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/marijuana/some-pot-labs-in-state-failed-no-pot-at-all-says-scientist/

"Some state-certified marijuana labs testing for microbes such as E.coli and mold appear more friendly to pot merchants than others, according to an analysis by a Woodinville data scientist.

Four labs rejected none of the pot they tested over a three-month period last year, according to the analysis by Jim MacRae. Four other labs failed more than 12 percent of samples tested over the same time, with two labs rejecting 44 percent of samples for microbes."

So much for those who go to dispensaries feeling good about their herb.
 

Gratefulgrowin93

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44% rejected for dangerous microbes such as e.Coli etc!!!!!!!! While other labs passed every sample.
wow man that really puts into perspective all the dispensary buds that are lab-tested claiming no mold, pesticides, etc

but how would we really know, if some labs are actually passing them anyway

and some are actually being decent and telling us there is E coli and mold in our buds

as i tell all my friends and family, grow your own! best way to ensure it is clean these days
 

The Yorkshireman

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E.coli comes from shit and soil, it can often be found in unwashed vegetables.

You get E.coli in bud when the dispensary buys out door grown "Organic" bud.

You don't get E.coli in indoor/hydro grown bud unless somebody is fertilizing with shit, or wiping the plants on their arse, or has poor personal hygene (effectively wiping the plants on their arse).



Mold spores (botrytis) are pretty much impossible to erradicate unless you're running sealed rooms, they're everywhere, literally.
 
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