giving defoliation during flower a try

[AlphaPhase]

What setting do you use on ur camera to Make it come out natural color bro? Every time I take a pic with not much light or use my flash it comes out green on my phone?

 

[chuck estevez]

 

[Aeroknow]

What setting do you use on ur camera to Make it come out natural color bro? Every time I take a pic with not much light or use my flash it comes out green on my phone?

Me? Shiiit. You know how I suck at taking pics.
That was just taken in my 1/2 remodeled kitchen. I got led lighting up above. And I don't know man, whatever I did on the first pic of buds in my hand, it made it look like some bud rot. I assure you it is not though

 

[AlphaPhase]

Me? Shiiit. You know how I suck at taking pics.
That was just taken in my 1/2 remodeled kitchen. I got led lighting up above.

Gotta be the good lighting, my phone turns things into turtles if there's not enough light, it drives me crazy lol. Came out normal with a led light tho, they should incorporate them into phone cams some how I'm so tired of the glue but damn it is a good one thank you sir!

 

[Aeroknow]

Anyone else here into pullin super-colds like I am?

 

[AlphaPhase]

Lmao, I'm getting high sipping champagne, it's not the same as reggin super cold tho

 

[st0wandgrow]

I'd love to see the science you have pertaining to Shaded leaves being beneficial, if you can find any sound resources, then we can move forward, but as of now I think I've proved the reasoning for lolipoping, using science. Can't pick and choose what science benefits your case, though.

I know it's hard to unthink things you've learned and change things you've practiced and preached for so long, but there comes a time when you'll be presented the science (which I've done, and you're all about science, so I'm not seeing how your statement makes any sense) and information that will debunk certain aspects of the information you have given out. It's up to you to accept it or not, it's right there to see and it's cut and dry, but providing disinformation is to no one's benefit and saying "that I think things are a certain way doesn't make them fact" is really counter-productive imo, especially when I've listed about 10 different science sources (maybe you didn't read them?) proving the things I've said and disproving some of the things you've presented... If there was something to prove my sources wrong, then I'm sure you'd have posted them. All things aside, you do know a lot about functions of plants, but then there is the other 1/2 that you're missing. I didn't mean to burst your bubble.

If you, hb, sativied or chuck can prove me wrong with science sources, then I'm all ears, until then, well, I'm right yall are wrong. It is what it is, but I like to learn and am willing to accept science and change my opinion when presented with the proper info. That's what makes a person tick, learning!

I like to clean up the bottom 12"-18" of my plants too. Most (not all) of the strains I've grown over the years produce useless larf down low that I can't be bothered to trim. I'm not certain how that affects my yield, but even if I were to lose a little weight it's worth it to me.

This thread is a classic. lol

 

[chuck estevez]

oh yea, that;s a barley pop,LMFAO

 

[AlphaPhase]

And a headache in the morning lol. I use it to wash down the black velvet, I'm so poor

 

[Aeroknow]

And a headache in the morning lol. I use it to wash down the black velvet, I'm so poor

Good night. Keep your butthole tight!

 

[AlphaPhase]

Good night. Keep your butthole tight!

 

[AlphaPhase]

I like to clean up the bottom 12"-18" of my plants too. Most (not all) of the strains I've grown over the years produce useless larf down low that I can't be bothered to trim. I'm not certain how that affects my yield, but even if I were to lose a little weight it's worth it to me.

This thread is a classic. lol

Same thing I do when it's needed. Bottom 25% = no go of the plant canopy is proper. I think your yield would be the same regardless, I've grown so many plants due to many sea of green runs and I wouldn't do anything if the yield difference wasn't negligible. Might be a little more or a little less, but the end product being very close to the same yield with no bs to trim is by far the most important thing. I'd rather have a pound of gumball size buds and bigger and the same yield than a pound of buds ranging from a pinky nail of hair to bigger sized buds, any day of the week, and no one can say they can't agree with that trimming larf is endangering the welfare of your fingers lol

 

[homebrewer]

^^ lmfao hb. I said I don't own the house. And adding reflective stuff on the walls isn't going to help much if at all imo. Larger grow ops use NO walls! Jesus, if reflection was THAT big of a deal, I'd be pulling 5lbs a light hahaha. And large warehouse grows would add reflective walls around each light in a 4x4 area into little cubicles. Come on now. I can veg plants way bigger /faster than most people I know that use reflective surfaces, the veg pic was 4 weeks. I actually have less growth using grow tents, reflection is a miniscule thing to worry about. Direct light is what matters. If I added reflection, there would be no difference, I'm sorry to say. My veg room is not by the walls, the trays are set up so that I can walk around them. Explain to me how adding reflection with the trays 1' from the wall using t5 lights would help? Not everyone sets there trays up Snug against the wall, I mean I'd hate that. Reflective walls will not change anything if you're a good grower, 1%, difference... maybe..... But not really.

So you don't think adding reflective surfaces in your room will make any difference in yield yet you think yanking a few lower leaves will? Your priorities are all mixed up.

 

[AlphaPhase]

So you don't think adding reflective surfaces in your room will make any difference in yield yet you think yanking a few lower leaves will? Your priorities are all mixed up.

No. I never said increase the yield. I said the yield stays relatively the same. Except there's no small lower buds to trim.

 

[homebrewer]

No. I never said increase the yield. I said the yield stays relatively the same. Except there's no small lower buds to trim.

The off-topic information you posted about 'shaded leaves' implies that your justification for yanking lower leaves was because they pull more energy from the plant than they produce therefore in theory reducing yields. Right?

So I'll restate what I stated above: you're yanking lower leaves to increase yield yet you wont hang reflective material? You're mixed up over there, bud.

 

[AlphaPhase]

The off-topic information you posted about 'shaded leaves' implies that your justification for yanking lower leaves was because they pull more energy from the plant than they produce therefore in theory reducing yields. Right?

So I'll restate what I stated above: you're yanking lower leaves to increase yield yet you wont hang reflective material? You're mixed up over there, bud.

I will hang a strip of poly tonight. I'll measure with the light meter before and after. There's still 2 weeks of stretch left, but I'll show you poly will not make a difference in the lower canopy.

Where poly would probably make a difference is around the walls by the flood tray. But I don't lollipop anything in my flood tray, so I don't know what else to say about that.

Sooo once again. These plants are week 6 into flower. The stretch has long been over. They are about 2' Tall. I did not lollipop because there's no reason to.




These are 1 week into flower and have 2-3 weeks longer of stretch (they stretch for 3+ weeks). These will be very big. They will need to be lollipopped.



Not all plants need to be lollipopped.

 

[AlphaPhase]

My justification of pulling the Shaded leaves off has to do with a more healthy and productive plant. It's also easier to trim. Same yields.

 

[budman111]

First world perks eh!

 

[AlphaPhase]

So I tested the lux without any poly on the wall. The meter is pegged (past the numbers) at the top of the canopy, around 45k lux. Under the canopy it was about 1k lux. That's a 44000 difference in light.

With white poly on the left wall, I measured the plant closest to the poly, to get the highest reading I could from the poly reflecting whatever it could.. . It was 1k lux. No difference. Not that I added poly around the whole building and tested, but none the less, I already know the results would be the same.

1k lux isn't enough for a seedling to grow.

These already have grown about a foot in a week. There not even close to done growing before buds set in. Lollipop. Poly doesn't matter.

 

[homebrewer]

You don't need a light meter to see that the white wall in your room is substantially more reflective than the beige wall.