Super soil recipe for 8 cu. Ft of soil

StrictlyClassified

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What is a good sustainable soil for 8 cubic feet. Filling 2 30 gallon smart pots. Im gonna have worms and compost and covercrops in my soil already.
 

Budzbuddha

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This mix is an awesome and simple mix that really doesn't need to be cooked.
I got this from @Superweedman. You can do others like SUBCOOL or Green Avengers.


Grow your plants under 18hrs ON /6hrs OFF lighting for 15-40 days according to container size. Then it's flower time! Do not add liquid nutrients at any time! Use only carbohydrate and sugar additives during the flowering phase. For heavy feeding or extra large plants top dress the soil with 4-6 cups of Super Soil at day 25-30 for an additional non-burning nutrient boost.

Easy peezy :bigjoint: Just adjust amounts to suit your grow.


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Budzbuddha

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Before I forget -This mix is too hot for seedlings !
Grow your seedlings in one the package soils " by itself " - either in a small container or cup to have seedling not be burned . After about a week or so transplant into this SUPERSOIL mix and watch her take off !

It just requires only watering ( only when needed ) - I may add a booster ( hydroplex ) during a watering around week 7 but it really isn't necessary. With this mix it will sustain your grow up to harvest. ( but if running plants past week 10 / 11 or longer you MIGHT have to top dress a little mix to keep plant Hapoy.

When I use this on my AUTOS , I may have left over mix at base of container , and recycle it into a new container batch. ( since it really isn't SALTED up because I'm not adding nutes to it. ).
 

ShLUbY

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look at the first page of this thread.....

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

there are soil recipes on it, that are sustainable, low cost, and capable of no-till, and you can just recycle ALL of the soil from the plants you flower with these mixes, re-amend them, water with compost tea, and let them sit for 30 days before use. you never have to throw away your soil! it's your most important asset in living organic soil.

then keep reading the thread. you will find information on the best organic gardening for cannabis.

Good luck to you.
 

MistaRasta

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What is a good sustainable soil for 8 cubic feet. Filling 2 30 gallon smart pots. Im gonna have worms and compost and covercrops in my soil already.
Here's EXACTLY what you're looking for

Base mix
1/3 peat moss
1/3 compost
1/3 pumice/lava rock

To each cubic foot add:
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup crab meal
1/2 cup neem meal

1/2 cup gypsum
1/2 cup oyster shell flower
2 cups basalt/ glacial rock dust

Let it cook for a couple of weeks and then introduce your worms[/QUOTE]
 

ShLUbY

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Here's EXACTLY what you're looking for

Base mix
1/3 peat moss
1/3 compost
1/3 pumice/lava rock

To each cubic foot add:
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup crab meal
1/2 cup neem meal

1/2 cup gypsum
1/2 cup oyster shell flower
2 cups basalt/ glacial rock dust

Let it cook for a couple of weeks and then introduce your worms
just did 2 20 gal no tills about 4 weeks ago with this exact recipe.

bout to do 2 more, plus a 30. the 2 20 gals will be my biochar challenge one with one without. gonna mix them up today hopefully!
 

Jabrone

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This mix is an awesome and simple mix that really doesn't need to be cooked.
I got this from @Superweedman. You can do others like SUBCOOL or Green Avengers.


Grow your plants under 18hrs ON /6hrs OFF lighting for 15-40 days according to container size. Then it's flower time! Do not add liquid nutrients at any time! Use only carbohydrate and sugar additives during the flowering phase. For heavy feeding or extra large plants top dress the soil with 4-6 cups of Super Soil at day 25-30 for an additional non-burning nutrient boost.

Easy peezy :bigjoint: Just adjust amounts to suit your grow.


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Haha the straight lazy nooby mix
 

MistaRasta

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just did 2 20 gal no tills about 4 weeks ago with this exact recipe.

bout to do 2 more, plus a 30. the 2 20 gals will be my biochar challenge one with one without. gonna mix them up today hopefully!
Nice!
I'm a little behind on the no till containers. I'm waiting for my 20 gallon worm pot to finish, I'll start them then.

I need to implement bio char but the only stuff I can find around here is insanely expensive.
 

ShLUbY

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Nice!
I'm a little behind on the no till containers. I'm waiting for my 20 gallon worm pot to finish, I'll start them then.

I need to implement bio char but the only stuff I can find around here is insanely expensive.
go buy a bag of cowboy charcoal. measure out how much biochar you would like in your soil and put the charcoal in a sheet and smash it up with a hammer. take the char and add it to a 5 gal bucket, add RO or non chlorinated water and fill so the level of liquid is more than the char. add alfalfa meal, fishbone meal, kelp meal, fish hydrolysate whatever source of nitrogen you like and bubble with air stones for 2 weeks. then add EWC and BSM and make a compost tea essentially with the char in there. after 24-48 more hours your char is charged and ready to use.

Edit: you can also just put the biochar pieces in with your compost pile, and by the time the compost is ready the biochar should be charged.
 

MistaRasta

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go buy a bag of cowboy charcoal. measure out how much biochar you would like in your soil and put the charcoal in a sheet and smash it up with a hammer. take the char and add it to a 5 gal bucket, add RO or non chlorinated water and fill so the level of liquid is more than the char. add alfalfa meal, fishbone meal, kelp meal, fish hydrolysate whatever source of nitrogen you like and bubble with air stones for 2 weeks. then add EWC and BSM and make a compost tea essentially with the char in there. after 24-48 more hours your char is charged and ready to use.

Edit: you can also just put the biochar pieces in with your compost pile, and by the time the compost is ready the biochar should be charged.

I'm not a huge fan boy of bio char all that much. I feel that my lava rock has a good cec with a very suitable home for the microbes and such.

BUT
you're definitely missing out on the most important part, which is activating the charcoal itself.

By doing this you're releasing all of its carbon(1000:1)therefore you need to supplement with a shit load of nitrogen I.e. Charging it with alfalfa or nettles

Without first activating the coal you're doing more harm than good. I wouldn't use it
 

ShLUbY

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I'm not a huge fan boy of bio char all that much. I feel that my lava rock has a good cec with a very suitable home for the microbes and such.

BUT
you're definitely missing out on the most important part, which is activating the charcoal itself.

By doing this you're releasing all of its carbon(1000:1)therefore you need to supplement with a shit load of nitrogen I.e. Charging it with alfalfa or nettles

Without first activating the coal you're doing more harm than good. I wouldn't use it
no i'm not missing that part. i fully explained how to charge it. you didn't read my post obviously lol.

I wasn't aware that scoria has a charge to the surface of it. is it positive or negatively charged?
 

MistaRasta

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no i'm not missing that part. i fully explained how to charge it. you didn't read my post obviously lol.

I wasn't aware that scoria has a charge to the surface of it. is it positive or negatively charged?

I know exactly how bio char works.. You on the other hand, don't..

And no, I wasn't talking about charging the char. I'm talking about activating it, something you didn't mention at all...

Go do some more research before you go try your unorthodox method please. It's people like you who don't do enough research, fuck up something simple and then blame it all on "Organics".

..The lava rock is negatively charged just like anything else that has a good cation exchange.
 

ShLUbY

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I know exactly how bio char works.. You on the other hand, don't..

And no, I wasn't talking about charging the char. I'm talking about activating it, something you didn't mention at all...

Go do some more research before you go try your unorthodox method please. It's people like you who don't do enough research, fuck up something simple and then blame it all on "Organics".

..The lava rock is negatively charged just like anything else that has a good cation exchange.
this was what i followed... http://www.ithaka-journal.net/wege-zu-terra-preta-aktivierung-von-biokohle?lang=en Could you please explain why this is unorthodox? I got the method from the Dons' garden. he was bubbling his char as well. if you just point me to a link or something i'd be happy to read it



I say one incorrect thing and "it's people like me". just say no, that is incorrect, here's a link, read it. I would be glad to do so.
 
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Pattahabi

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Here's EXACTLY what you're looking for

Base mix
1/3 peat moss
1/3 compost
1/3 pumice/lava rock

To each cubic foot add:
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup crab meal
1/2 cup neem meal

1/2 cup gypsum
1/2 cup oyster shell flower
2 cups basalt/ glacial rock dust

Let it cook for a couple of weeks and then introduce your worms
This is almost exactly why I use. Myself and others have had great results with it.

P-
 

MistaRasta

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this was what i followed... http://www.ithaka-journal.net/wege-zu-terra-preta-aktivierung-von-biokohle?lang=en Could you please explain why this is unorthodox? I got the method from the Dons' garden. he was bubbling his char as well. if you just point me to a link or something i'd be happy to read it



I say one incorrect thing and "it's people like me". just say no, that is incorrect, here's a link, read it. I would be glad to do so.

I don't have sources as I haven't researched bio char in a few years. And don't really give two shits about it

Basically what makes it "bio" char is the fact that you light it up, let it burn almost all the way up and suffocate it right before leaving a nice porous product.. Doing this you're releasing the carbon which in turn makes everything work. It's not going to charge if it's not activated..
 

ShLUbY

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I don't have sources as I haven't researched bio char in a few years. And don't really give two shits about it

Basically what makes it "bio" char is the fact that you light it up, let it burn almost all the way up and suffocate it right before leaving a nice porous product.. Doing this you're releasing the carbon which in turn makes everything work. It's not going to charge if it's not activated..
well i couldn't find any information about your process of "activating" the char. everyone use "activate" and "charge" interchangingly. however i'm sure everyone that is making char and showing the results is doing it in the same fashion, with a sealed vessel in a fire. everything i found on biochar that was charged showed positive results over the control. i seriously doubt that my char mix is not going to do harm, but i guess we will see cause i already mixed the containers, one with char and one without. i'll be showing the growth when i get some plants in them in a month or so, fingers crossed!

and yes the pumice and lava rock do the same thing, but i'd like to see just for myself with the char.
 
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