Advanced Nutrients are great!!!

Panik1031

Panik1031

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Enigmatic Ways said:
Yes I concur, that's why I shop at discount advanced nutrients.View attachment 3521922
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Discount Dan is the man! This is what I meant about finding things for cheap. His staff and himself are very cool people and have hooked me up quite nicely over the past few months. Say what you will and say what you want. But AN puts my plants right where I need them to be and they love it. I am very excited to get out to Colorado in two months and implement my current system and grow 10x what I am growing now. The dream is so close!
 
since1991

since1991

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Advanced nutes work and work well. No doubt. If your happy and bieleve that the brand is it then so be it. There are much cheaper alternatives out there, less bottles that will give you the exact same.results. I can guarantee you this. But hey if its not broke.....
 
Rastafaerie

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Anyone who thinks AN is some kind of witchcraft and therefore superior to everything else is crazy. You can get the same or better results with cheaper nutes!

That being said, I f****ing love the pH perfect line. I'm soooo lazy and I hate checking/adjusting pH every time. Now I just put the A&B in the gallon according to the bottle directions, shake and go. No need to check pH because it brings my pH around ~6.2 with water up to pH 9.0 and even if it doesn't quite bring it down that far every time, it doesn't matter! Because chelated nutrients means they can get absorbed at a wider range of pH levels than normal :hump:

Does anyone know of any cheaper brands than AN with similar technology? I mean not just the chelated nutes but also the pH stabilizers that make it so good at lowering my high pH water and maintaining that pH. I would switch to something else if I could be just as lazy lol.

Thanks :)
 
budman111

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Rastafaerie said:
Anyone who thinks AN is some kind of witchcraft and therefore superior to everything else is crazy. You can get the same or better results with cheaper nutes!

That being said, I f****ing love the pH perfect line. I'm soooo lazy and I hate checking/adjusting pH every time. Now I just put the A&B in the gallon according to the bottle directions, shake and go. No need to check pH because it brings my pH around ~6.2 with water up to pH 9.0 and even if it doesn't quite bring it down that far every time, it doesn't matter! Because chelated nutrients means they can get absorbed at a wider range of pH levels than normal :hump:

Does anyone know of any cheaper brands than AN with similar technology? I mean not just the chelated nutes but also the pH stabilizers that make it so good at lowering my high pH water and maintaining that pH. I would switch to something else if I could be just as lazy lol.

Thanks :)
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I don't correct pH and I have never ever had pH problems because plants like to take nutrients at varied pH levels...'pH perfect' marketing rhetoric is for noobs, gullible and weak the minded.
 
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Yodaweed

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budman111 said:
I don't correct pH and I have never ever had pH problems because plants like to take nutrients at varied pH levels...'pH perfect' marketing retheric is for noobs, gullible and weak the minded.
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All premade bottled nutrients are for the gullible/weak minded. I make my own from stuff soooooo much cheaper and I get soooooo much more it is hilarious to see people pay 40 bucks for a watered down bottle. Try buying dry ingredients and assembling your own cocktail.
 
since1991

since1991

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Rastafaerie said:
Anyone who thinks AN is some kind of witchcraft and therefore superior to everything else is crazy. You can get the same or better results with cheaper nutes!

That being said, I f****ing love the pH perfect line. I'm soooo lazy and I hate checking/adjusting pH every time. Now I just put the A&B in the gallon according to the bottle directions, shake and go. No need to check pH because it brings my pH around ~6.2 with water up to pH 9.0 and even if it doesn't quite bring it down that far every time, it doesn't matter! Because chelated nutrients means they can get absorbed at a wider range of pH levels than normal :hump:

Does anyone know of any cheaper brands than AN with similar technology? I mean not just the chelated nutes but also the pH stabilizers that make it so good at lowering my high pH water and maintaining that pH. I would switch to something else if I could be just as lazy lol.

Thanks :)
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since1991

since1991

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Ionic one part grow for soil is 3-1-5. The one part bloom is 2-2-5. The Ionic Boost is optional but plumps up and ripens some strains when you use it starting week 5. The base nutes at 4 tspns a gallon gives you 1.3 EC (650 PPM). My starting tap water is 0.2 EC (110 PPM) so 770 ppm is full strength plus tap. The sweet spot for every variety ive grown in the last 12 years. Whether coco or pro mix. The pH of my tap is around 7.7. Ionic full strength drops this to 6.5. Perfect for soil or peat based mixes. I add a tiny bit of pH down for coco coir. About 6.0. Ionic Grow and Bloom is all you need to grow sweet sticky buds. The for soil or the regular. For soil has added humic acid in the jug. For coco coir grows a slight charge of a calmag product helps some strains in the beginning. But once they start jamming and the coir is loaded.....your all set. So simple its boring maintenance work for me. Part of my weekly routine refilling and resetting tanks.
 
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since1991

since1991

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Oh and i get my gallon jugs of Ionic for 35$. The bigger jugs are even cheaper. Iam too lazy to mix my own nutes. Iam all about set it...forget it. Id rather be fucking around in the room with tying,.staking, topping and general grow room shit. My tanks (30 gallon trash barrels from Walmart) are outside the room. Like my ballast wall i dont pay a whole lot of attention to my nute shelf and solution tanks. Its dead simple.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Yodaweed said:
All premade bottled nutrients are for the gullible/weak minded. I make my own from stuff soooooo much cheaper and I get soooooo much more it is hilarious to see people pay 40 bucks for a watered down bottle. Try buying dry ingredients and assembling your own cocktail.
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Yup there ya go, weak minded. Or just really cant be bothered perhaps. $40 bucks for couple thousnd dollars worth of product (actually more here) yup gulible lol.
 
Budley Doright

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Greenhouse;save said:
I also like to keep my family with the best that I can afford.........just bought my son a NEW BMW so I'm defo not a CHEAPSKATE BASTARD as you so like to call me.......answer me this.....if you had a choice to buy you fuel from a local garage(brand name)or you could go to the local supermarket and get it cheaper....Wot would you do?????............SENSIBLE people would go to the supermarket.......same ethics applies to nutrients .....Yes...
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I think I need a new dad!
 
Flagg420

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Budley Doright said:
Yup there ya go, weak minded. Or just really cant be bothered perhaps. $40 bucks for couple thousnd dollars worth of product (actually more here) yup gulible lol.
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Try chelating your compounds.....

AN isn't about being cost effective, we know its overpriced watered down ferts..... but we also know IT WORKS.

And when you are ust doing a personal home grow... paying a little extra to have the ease of Ph perfect nutes is worth it...

Sure if we were all doing warehouse grows and trying to make a business out of it we would use dry salts, and dial in our own custom NPK ratios, and breed out own microbes, and monitor Ph several times a day.......

for now, a couple bottles and a shot glass for big frosty dank ass buds...... we dont fix what aint broken.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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^^^^ why you quoting me lol. I agree whole heartedly re buy a couple of bottles of watered down stuff lol. I actually just switched to a pricey product (all relative) but started with stuff that is mixed locally and bottled for other popular companies, cost per 4 litres of both A + B is $25 and lasted about 4 runs lol.
 
since1991

since1991

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Up to certain sized grows determines whether your buying hobby bottles or buying from the ag companies and mixing your own. Hobby bottles for most of us. It just makes so much sense and is easier. The high price just isnt a factor for the gains and returns we get. For big shows and more of a commercial real farming/greenhouse managemant standpoint theres no way anyone would buy Canna or Advanced or whatever is in the hydroponic shops. It would cost a fortune. Canna in Holland comes off.in there youtube vids as bigtime but if they even do i suspect they have special pricing for thier mediums and nutrient programs. There COgr slabs are astronomically expensive compared to say a pallet of Pele grow slabs. And them growers use ALOT of pallets.Completely different equipment for the most part. Not just nutrient fertilizers either. Dosatrons, lighting (p.l. & Gavita), coco slabs (the pros call them grow bags), drain and flood tables that they actually use a special glue to custom fit, big aluminum roller benches made in Holland, etc. Totally different than what us basement boogies get down with.
 
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since1991

since1991

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The key point in what i did a long time ago is to study what the big growers were doing and adapt it to what i was trying to achieve. They do things a little bit differently and get HUGE yields. They have to. Its all about turnover. Just look at what the newish Gavita lights are doing for us "hobbyists". Awesome results. These lamps been in greenhouses for quite some time. Its about efficiency. Hortilux Schreder (the makers of p.l. horticultural lamps) even has crews that take down hundreds or thousands of reflectors every so often out of the greenhouses and cleans them like new. Like a slightly dusty hood will affect a crops bottom line. Amazing on how down to the wire it really is. Marijuana is still in the warehouse mode but its making headway into the big greenhouses. Still early but in time its ALL going that route. And who knows whats going to happen with our basements and know it all asses. Lol. Forums and hydroponic hobby industry be damned!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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All I really care about is that on Monday Justin gets the majority vote and next summer I'll be growing the 8 footers of my youth in my back yard, then its fuck the nutes. Be rowin my boat out to cormorant island and gettin me some shit lol. Use to fill the boat up with that stuff and yes the blueberry loved it. I also had long blond hair back then lol.
 
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