Is it possible that NASA faked the moon landing?

Dr.Pecker

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On the inside, yes?
No. Its on the outside and its exhaust from the ship. They even explain it in detail. Plenty of video to look through. Would you like to see the earth from the moon? I'll post a video and give you points in the film that are very interesting. Hows more than eight? Eight points that you can see earth right outside the window when they are well on their way to the moon.
 

Dr.Pecker

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At those pressures ice does not persist, especially in finely divided form. Saturn's rings are cold enough that they lose less than a kilogram of water a day to sublimation. (source:Wosczyk, Iwanizewska, Exploration of the Planetary System, 1974) But at lunar temps in daylight the temp is above zero C where water and ice have a vapor pressure of 8 mmHg, a hundredth of an atmosphere. By the time the vapor (!) is cool enough to crystallize it has fallen below the necessary pressure.
Vacuum is pressure? You would see ice particles in the video if it were a vacuum. They sure as shit would reflect light.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No. Its on the outside and its exhaust from the ship. They even explain it in detail. Plenty of video to look through. Would you like to see the earth from the moon? I'll post a video and give you points in the film that are very interesting. Hows more than eight? Eight points that you can see earth right outside the window when they are well on their way to the moon.
WHO explains it in detail?
Vacuum is pressure? You would see ice particles in the video if it were a vacuum. They sure as shit would reflect light.
Vacuum is a subset of pressure, if you think as an engineer.
The rings of Saturn are outgassing water as its gas state. Recondensation has to wait until some cold, cold Oort object snags a molecule or three.
 

Dr.Pecker

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WHO explains it in detail?


Vacuum is a subset of pressure, if you think as an engineer.
The rings of Saturn are outgassing water as its gas state. Recondensation has to wait until some cold, cold Oort object snags a molecule or three.
Dude! Do you have the Apollo videos?
 

Darth Vapour

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DR for sure they saw earth when they were heading to the moon out the ass end of the ship lol just had to open up the toilet bowl
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No. Its on the outside and its exhaust from the ship. They even explain it in detail. Plenty of video to look through. Would you like to see the earth from the moon? I'll post a video and give you points in the film that are very interesting. Hows more than eight? Eight points that you can see earth right outside the window when they are well on their way to the moon.
I did find a reference to exterior ice on a history.nasa.gov site! The ice did not persist. I find it quite plausible that some exhaust from the hydrogen/oxygen S-4 stage got inside the shroud and frosted onto the cold surfaces. Shroud off, and ... ice slowly goes away. remaining residue ... rocket exhaust contains ... rocket, after all.

033:17:54 Conrad: Say, you know, yesterday we talked to you about this stuff that's all over the windows, and on Dick's rendezvous window - window 2 - We've got some kind of a white deposit that's like a - I don't know, it's like an ash and it's not flush on it, it's built up in little humps and tabs of it sticking out, especially in the upper right-hand corner. What we'd like to do is photograph this for you. We don't have much to do right now. We thought we'd photograph these windows and thought maybe you'd come up with some recommended settings and everything. Seems to me I remember somewhere we had those procedures for photographing windows back in D or something because they were bad.

033:18:43 Carr: Roger, Pete. We'll get somebody going on that right away.

033:18:48 Conrad: We expect this stuff will be long gone after re-entry.

033:18:53 Carr: Roger. We've been kind of dying to ask you too about the ice situation. How long did it take that to sublime off?

033:19:01 Conrad: Well, now, that's a funny thing. The ice was sublimed off, but it's left a white deposit all along the perimeter of the number 1 window, that - that's on the black surface of the outside of that window, and it's up along the side of the window too. It's similar to the same stuff that's on the rendezvous window. Now, the ice that was on the inside of the outer pane in the number 1 window - that's sublimated, too, since we started PTC. We have a - a fine deposit of water droplet; whatever was in the water - has adhered to the window and that's all in streaks and dots and splatters, so we kind of think some of this may have come when - when the tower was jettisoned; we're not sure, and I guess what we want to do is try and photograph this as best we can for you to see -because I haven't heard [garble] before either.

033:20:05 Carr: Roger, Pete. How long did it take for that outer layer of ice on window 1 to sublime? How long was it before it was gone?

033:20:16 Conrad: Yes, it didn't go until we were finally asleep last night or - we stopped looking at it. It was still there, I think, when we went to bed last night.

033:20:26 Carr: Roger.
 

Dr.Pecker

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Some people are blinded by their pride. I love my country. I love my people. I will defend and protect myself and neighbor. We respect our privacy, religion or lack of. I'm sure all of you are aware of my beliefs. If cannabineer and I were in a fox hole we would survive. If not, then I was wrong.
WHO explains it in detail?


Vacuum is a subset of pressure, if you think as an engineer.
The rings of Saturn are outgassing water as its gas state. Recondensation has to wait until some cold, cold Oort object snags a molecule or three.
well they had several gallons of coolant but none of the videos shows exhaust no
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Some people are blinded by their pride. I love my country. I love my people. I will defend and protect myself and neighbor. We respect our privacy, religion or lack of. I'm sure all of you are aware of my beliefs. If cannabineer and I were in a fox hole we would survive. If not, then I was wrong.
well they had several gallons of coolant but none of the videos shows exhaust no
The exhaust from H2/O2 rockets and peroxide thrusters is clear and colorless. I have no trouble imagining this can't-see-it stream of vapor hitting a cold surface and building frost.
I too will defend your right to hold a belief with which I disagree. And so long as you aren't a troll, I'll argue from fact where I can. Heck sometimes with a troll too, as this thread shows ...
 

Dr.Pecker

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I did find a reference to exterior ice on a history.nasa.gov site! The ice did not persist. I find it quite plausible that some exhaust from the hydrogen/oxygen S-4 stage got inside the shroud and frosted onto the cold surfaces. Shroud off, and ... ice slowly goes away. remaining residue ... rocket exhaust contains ... rocket, after all.

033:17:54 Conrad: Say, you know, yesterday we talked to you about this stuff that's all over the windows, and on Dick's rendezvous window - window 2 - We've got some kind of a white deposit that's like a - I don't know, it's like an ash and it's not flush on it, it's built up in little humps and tabs of it sticking out, especially in the upper right-hand corner. What we'd like to do is photograph this for you. We don't have much to do right now. We thought we'd photograph these windows and thought maybe you'd come up with some recommended settings and everything. Seems to me I remember somewhere we had those procedures for photographing windows back in D or something because they were bad.

033:18:43 Carr: Roger, Pete. We'll get somebody going on that right away.

033:18:48 Conrad: We expect this stuff will be long gone after re-entry.

033:18:53 Carr: Roger. We've been kind of dying to ask you too about the ice situation. How long did it take that to sublime off?

033:19:01 Conrad: Well, now, that's a funny thing. The ice was sublimed off, but it's left a white deposit all along the perimeter of the number 1 window, that - that's on the black surface of the outside of that window, and it's up along the side of the window too. It's similar to the same stuff that's on the rendezvous window. Now, the ice that was on the inside of the outer pane in the number 1 window - that's sublimated, too, since we started PTC. We have a - a fine deposit of water droplet; whatever was in the water - has adhered to the window and that's all in streaks and dots and splatters, so we kind of think some of this may have come when - when the tower was jettisoned; we're not sure, and I guess what we want to do is try and photograph this as best we can for you to see -because I haven't heard [garble] before either.

033:20:05 Carr: Roger, Pete. How long did it take for that outer layer of ice on window 1 to sublime? How long was it before it was gone?

033:20:16 Conrad: Yes, it didn't go until we were finally asleep last night or - we stopped looking at it. It was still there, I think, when we went to bed last night.

033:20:26 Carr: Roger.
I know what your talking about. BUT the transcripts don't match up to the video. In the video the actual dialog is talking about the ice on the outside of the craft.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I know what your talking about. BUT the transcripts don't match up to the video. In the video the actual dialog is talking about the ice on the outside of the craft.
Yah this was outside; it's in the transcript. With cryogenic fuels so close it could have come from Florida's legendarily arid air :)
 

Dr.Pecker

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Hour 33, temporal midpoint but about 3/4 of the way from Earth orbit. Doesn't kill my hypothesis
It doesn't kill your educated guess. I am not a troll. I respect you, I do have a weird sense of humor. Don't be alarmed I'll show a video and point out some times in the video that you can see earth.
 

Native Humboldt

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If the landing was real how does the American flag flutter in an absolute vacuum. It looks like the wind is blowing pretty hard on the moons surface. I also think with as much H3 (helium 3) on the moon our greedy asses would have already been back there mining the shit out of it. I sure wish they would get the fuck back there just to prove a point but almost 50 years later we still haven't even tried.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
If the landing was real how does the American flag flutter in an absolute vacuum. It looks like the wind is blowing pretty hard on the moons surface. I also think with as much H3 (helium 3) on the moon our greedy asses would have already been back there mining the shit out of it. I sure wish they would get the fuck back there just to prove a point but almost 50 years later we still haven't even tried.
The flag had a wire stiffener. The only time it fluttered was when that hot exhaust from the ascent stage f'd with it.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I just gave it a cursory glance but I do not see Earth in some of those time points. (and in others, a mission-appropriate view of our planet from a distance.) Are you cherrypicking hoax vids? I mistrust the editors.
 
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