ttystikk
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What's BEST is a system that can pump out some serious yield with great quality. A low price point helps, too.
Have you already purchased your lighting? You might look at the 860W CDM bulb.
3-4lbs off of one 1000w
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Have you already purchased your lighting? You might look at the 860W CDM bulb.
Thronez
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Do you have a link to the YouTube video?
Thronez
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No, I have not purchased my lights. I have carts full and ready to send to me from ehydroponics and virtual sun. I wanted to make sure I have everything sent all at once, to decrease shipping cost. I'm still working on which eco pumps and lights Im going to use. I will definitely look into the light you've suggested. I've studied from t5, hid, led and plasmas....I've been leaning towards hid, definitely for flowering, and led for mamas and clones. And my initial system was going to be the aeroflo2 60 site with extension kit. But I changed my mind to bonticare flood and drain. If you have any better ideas for a system that will more closely meet my goals, I'm all ears.
Carolina Dream'n
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I have been growing for 6 years, the same strain the entire time. I also pheno hunted for a high yielding phenotype. The yield is all about the genetics your choose to use. If your plant says it's a 5/10 on yield, you will never be able to push it to a 9/10.
Also, IMO the more lights you have, the easier it is to get those large yields. The overlapping light makes a hell of a different. I know for a fact I could not put 3 lbs off a single 1000, there must be multiple in the room for ME to achieve it. More power to those that can do it under just one.
I wouldn't waste your money on the LED. Just clone using a t5 with one bulb on. Switch the rest of bulb on once rooted for a couple days then put them into flower.
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Alaric
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My conclusions also about the overlapping light-----though I've never hit 3----would like to see what that looks like at finish.
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Alaric
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Go to youtube and do a search on heath robinson---especially the one about the aeroflow.
Thronez
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Oh ok, I understand. That makes sense....I was trying to stay if not exactly, a little lower or over 2000w with lights...the mamas will need at least 400w. And it makes perfect sense to use a low watt t5 to root. I really don't need an actual veg light. So that's a plus. I have to do a few calculations but I want to use 2 1000w. If I cannot then I may lean towards 2 600w. Realistically 2lbs is the lowest I'm aiming for. 3+lbs are what I only hope I can get. Once I expand my grow to a bigger place, then I can extend how many watts I use. For now I have to stay in a 2300w ish limitation. I'm glad I came here. That info helped a lot.
Thronez
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Yeah I did that earlier. Lol. He pulled 26 oz off one 600w! But he also had other 600w lights next to it growing another batch. And what Cali said about overlapping lights, I see how it was achieved. I looked at a few of his threads, but I couldn't see any of the images posted.....maybe they are ddeleted now, I saw the dates were a few years back.
Carolina Dream'n
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Gonna be pushing it with the 400. I would get a 315w CMH instead. More output of a 400w, with less power usage. I use them to cover a 3x3 space personally. Seen people push them to 4x4. Why so many mommas? If there's one thing u pick up from me, monocropping is probably the most important. Picks. Strain you like, that has the genetic potential to do what you want, pheno type and never stray away from that if you have the option. You will learn how to be the best gardener you can, because you'll have the best practice reading your plants as its needs will be the same every harvest. Learn what is neede an what is a gimmick. Just my opinion.BTW...is my idea of keeping 6 mamas in veg with 400w mh good enough? Do I need more or less watts to only keep them in veg? Or is 400w perfect?
Also, I wish I can like you guys post that been a help to me. I can't find a like button tho...
Carolina Dream'n
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I steady pull 24 oz off a 600, in a 3600 watt room. Heath had a large impact on a lot of people because he had the balls to document his shit. What he does/did is very impressive, yet simple.
Thronez
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That light sounds perfect. That's what I'll go with. As for the question about the momas....I wanted 2 different strains, and 3 plants for each. The extra momas is from my lack of experience not knowing how many clones a single moma can produce every 2 weeks. Also since the momas are the main core source of where I will continue my grow, I wanted more just in case one dies or something. I guess its just me overthinking .
. But i will alter how many strains I have bacause the monocrpping thing youve explained makes perfect sense. everything about it. Dealing with only one strain will concentrate my learning experience. Thanx man. I believe im all set to go.
Budget Buds
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It's great to dream big , but you have to walk before you can run. All the best lights and equipment arent going to help you if you dont know what your doing . Aim big but expect small for the first few runs until you get your system tuned in . find the strain your going to use and run that shit. It took me a long time before I was getting yields close to what I was trying to get . I dont think you will need 6 mother plants for clones. two 24 inch mommas are all I require for hundreds of clones every 60 days. For keeping mom's alive and well you could get by just fine with cfl lights which will cut down on startup and electric bills. Only attempt to run one strain at a time in you're sog , more then one will give more issues then it is worth. even with two separate trays your plants will most likely have different nutrient needs and one will be lacking or being given too much. I like to stick with old school skunk #1 or gumboldt . A single cola short compact strain is what you want. Do your homework on this as it will be one of the most important decisions. If a strain will only genetically put out 10 grams per plant you will never get it to give you 15 . After you get all the big issues solved . tune in your system and gain experience in what your doing you could very well get 1 gram per watt. Best of luck 
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Thronez
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The advise is much appreciated bro.It's great to dream big , but you have to walk before you can run. All the best lights and equipment arent going to help if you dont know what your doing . Aim big but expect small for the first few runs until you get your system tuned in . find the strain your going to use and run that shit. It took me a long time before I was getting yields close to what I was trying to get . I dont think you will need 6 mother plants for clones. two 24 inch mommas are all I require for hundreds of clones every 60 days. For keeping mom's alive and well you could get by just fine with cfl lights which will cut down on startup and electric bills. Only attempt to run one strain at a time in you're sog , more then one will give more issues then it is worth. even with two separate trays your plants will most likely have different nutrient needs and one will be lacking or being given too much. I like to stick with old school skunk #1 or gumboldt . A single cola short compact strain is what you want. Do your homework on this as it will be one of the most important decisions. If a strain will only genetically put out 10 grams per plant you will never get it to give you 15 . After you get all the big issues solved . tune in your system and gain experience in what your doing you could very well get 1 gram per watt. Best of luck
Yea, I'm gonna stick with one strain, I fully understand that now...I've actually did a good amount of research on strains, and everything about the critical kush strain resonated with me most.
. It has a high yeild and fast flower ratio, with good potentcy. (Plus i love kush). And from what ive heard, the buds are more dense and compact, like youve suggested. Skunk#1 was actually in my top 5 selection, along with blue dream, ppp, northern lights and C.kush until I narrowed them down to one.
ttystikk
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I think it's possible to yield four pounds from one thousand watts... just not if you choose to put them through an HPS thouie.
If you went 65% efficient or higher on a COB build, you might pull such a number. You'd need to spread it out so your yield per square foot stat would seriously suffer, though.
There's ways. I know, I've tried them and I still am.
If you went 65% efficient or higher on a COB build, you might pull such a number. You'd need to spread it out so your yield per square foot stat would seriously suffer, though.
There's ways. I know, I've tried them and I still am.
Budget Buds
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I like critical kush from dinafem seeds , I still have a favorite phenotype from years ago growing and it serves well in SOG . Make sure you have a good ppm/ph meter , My experience is that they were somewhat picky in the ppm they were getting, youre experience may vary.
Thronez
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Hmmm, COB.....that's a type of LED if I'm not mistaken right??? That's very interesting, I would love to hear more of your method of pulling 4 lbs from 1000w!!! If you have the time that is. And do you have a grow journal or thread on this type of grow yet? Much appreciate your input on the matter, I'm very interested.
Thronez
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Ok cool. I will definitely keep an eye on that. Anything else in particular with that strain that youve had to keep close knits on?I like critical kush from dinafem seeds , I still have a favorite phenotype from years ago growing and it serves well in SOG . Make sure you have a good ppm/ph meter , My experience is that they were somewhat picky in the ppm they were getting, youre experience may vary.
ttystikk
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Yes, that's right. I'm not doing it yet, I'm just suggesting the possibility. Go check out what the guys are up to on the LED threads on this forum.Hmmm, COB.....that's a type of LED if I'm not mistaken right??? That's very interesting, I would love to hear more of your method of pulling 4 lbs from 1000w!!! If you have the time that is. And do you have a grow journal or thread on this type of grow yet? Much appreciate your input on the matter, I'm very interested.