Ethics & Seeds

[bluntmassa1]

JD just stop... let it go...
you will NEVER get your point across with these guys about pricing...theres no reasoning,, its the same group of people... its fun to them
if theres any breeder that sell there stuff for more than 100, you'll know it here on riu

Yeah. like Sensi, DR. Greenthumb, Soma bunch of greedy ass bastards when with a decent price I would buy from all of them except maybe Dr. Greenthumb but hey we got plenty of good options so not a huge deal not buying from greedy breeders that are too dumb to realize how much more money they would make with reasonable prices.

 

[st0wandgrow]

JD just stop... let it go...
you will NEVER get your point across with these guys about pricing...theres no reasoning,, its the same group of people... its fun to them
if theres any breeder that sell there stuff for more than 100, you'll know it here on riu

I'm more than happy to pay $100+ for a pack of seeds. I've dropped a grand on Serious Seeds gear alone. But, I see no reason to do so when I can get as good, or often better genetics for half the price. Bodhi, Dynasty, Esko, Peak, Chimera, the list goes on.

People like you baffle me. What other product or service do people happily pay twice as much for an inferior product, and then spend their time defending said product/service?? Adoring fan boys.

 

[King Arthur]

I'm more than happy to pay $100+ for a pack of seeds. I've dropped a grand on Serious Seeds gear alone. But, I see no reason to do so when I can get as good, or often better genetics for half the price. Bodhi, Dynasty, Esko, Peak, Chimera, the list goes on.

People like you baffle me. What other product or service do people happily pay twice as much for an inferior product, and then spend their time defending said product/service?? Adoring fan boys.

I bet he has nothing clever to say to this one.

 

[Beemo]

I'm more than happy to pay $100+ for a pack of seeds. I've dropped a grand on Serious Seeds gear alone. But, I see no reason to do so when I can get as good, or often better genetics for half the price. Bodhi, Dynasty, Esko, Peak, Chimera, the list goes on.

People like you baffle me. What other product or service do people happily pay twice as much for an inferior product, and then spend their time defending said product/service?? Adoring fan boys.

I bet he has nothing clever to say to this one.

damm soo. anything og raskals, ggg, exotic, achive, pnw roots, dna/reserva, gooey, swerve, dvg,, and countless winners.... are all bullship????
i've seen ALL the representation of all the BREEDERS you named... non of them are as good as what i've seen to what i just named.... youre too funny....
i mean i could keep going tooo....
soo im a fan boy when i buy all the breeders??? you're a joke,, never taken seriously. like you said,,, arguing is fun too you...
i mean dvg came on here saying cali con tahoe is fire.. and hes using it to breed.
just like la plata using dj short blueberry... and soo many other breeders are using dj short bb...
damm i guess were all just fan boyz....
ill leave you five guys alone to keep talking trash....

 

[st0wandgrow]

damm soo. anything og raskals, ggg, exotic, achive, pnw roots, dna/reserva, gooey, swerve, dvg,, and countless winners.... are all bullship????
i've seen ALL the representation of all the BREEDERS you named... non of them are as good as what i've seen to what i just named.... youre too funny....
i mean i could keep going tooo....
soo im a fan boy when i buy all the breeders??? you're a joke,, never taken seriously. like you said,,, arguing is fun too you...
i mean dvg came on here saying cali con tahoe is fire.. and hes using it to breed.
just like la plata using dj short blueberry... and soo many other breeders are using dj short bb...
damm i guess were all just fan boyz....
ill leave you five guys alone to keep talking trash....

I didn't say they were all bullshit. I said I can purchase as good, or better gear for less than some of those breeders charge. Sometimes a lot less. I could live to be 200 years old and still never get to half of the cats slinging pollen, so why would I mess with the expensive gear unless there's a good reason to do so?

What you fail to realize is these seeds aren't more expensive because they're better. They're more expensive because these clowns are busy making t-shirts, and hats, and pins, and dropping 10k on a booth at the cannabis cup, which all gets passed on to you and me.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Depends on what one was looking for. If all a person was looking for was something that smelled fruity, had purple in it, got frosty when it finished and made their vision blurry, then yes, most likely one would find what they were looking for from a 'pollen chucked' pack of seeds. But if one had specific desires in mind for the smoke they wished to enjoy that were a little more diverse than color, smell and taste, then no, it would probably take quite a few more packs of 'pollen chucked' seeds than just four to find that pheno.

"Any successful breeder started out as an aspiring pollen chucker."

And if they were looking for something that smelled like blueberry muffins and was a finicky whore to grow and well adored by many, they'd find it in the packs I mentioned. For less than 1/6 the price if they live in Canada.

damm soo. anything og raskals, ggg, exotic, achive, pnw roots, dna/reserva, gooey, swerve, dvg,, and countless winners.... are all bullship????
i've seen ALL the representation of all the BREEDERS you named... non of them are as good as what i've seen to what i just named.... youre too funny....
i mean i could keep going tooo....
soo im a fan boy when i buy all the breeders??? you're a joke,, never taken seriously. like you said,,, arguing is fun too you...
i mean dvg came on here saying cali con tahoe is fire.. and hes using it to breed.
just like la plata using dj short blueberry... and soo many other breeders are using dj short bb...
damm i guess were all just fan boyz....
ill leave you five guys alone to keep talking trash....

I'd rather have Peaks very excellent version of blueberry @ 30 bucks a pack and be guaranteed to find what I'm looking for.

 

[Beemo]

I didn't say they were all bullshit. I said I can purchase as good, or better gear for less than some of those breeders charge. Sometimes a lot less. I could live to be 200 years old and still never get to half of the cats slinging pollen, so why would I mess with the expensive gear unless there's a good reason to do so?

What you fail to realize is these seeds aren't more expensive because they're better. They're more expensive because these clowns are busy making t-shirts, and hats, and pins, and dropping 10k on a booth at the cannabis cup, which all gets passed on to you and me.

what you fail to realize, your trying to tell breeders how to run there own business... why dont you run one yourself????...
if they want to make shirts and drop 10g on a booth thats their choice...
stick to your cheap beans and stop complaining... breeders dont tell you how to grow?

 

[st0wandgrow]

what you fail to realize, your trying to tell breeders how to run there own business... why dont you run one yourself????...
if they want to make shirts and drop 10g on a booth thats their choice...
stick to your cheap beans and stop complaining... breeders dont tell you how to grow?

I'll buy whatever seeds I want, and I'll bitch whenever I want.

You're mistaking me for someone who gives a shit about your opinion.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Oh, I'm sorry, I should have said "ship". I don't give a ship about your opinion.

 

[Beemo]

You're mistaking me for someone who gives a shit about your opinion.

my point exacty....

 

[Beemo]

Oh, I'm sorry, I should have said "ship". I don't give a ship about your opinion.

i know better watch out for the moderator..
soo fudge off

 

[King Arthur]

i know better watch out for the moderator..
soo fudge off

Look dude, I never said half of those breeders you listed were good. You are here to pick a fight we can smell it so just mosey along and go get your rocks off doing something productive. Lets get back to what this thread is about.

 

[bluntmassa1]

what you fail to realize, your trying to tell breeders how to run there own business... why dont you run one yourself????...
if they want to make shirts and drop 10g on a booth thats their choice...
stick to your cheap beans and stop complaining... breeders dont tell you how to grow?

The customer is always right and DJ don't sell a whole lot of seeds for a reason, sure breeders use it but an F1 hybrid is better than F5 more vigor may not breed true but you will find a better mother. Buy what you want I'm straight with DJ's overpriced seeds with the countless shit germination rates I see all the time.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

The customer is always right and DJ don't sell a whole lot of seeds for a reason, sure breeders use it but an F1 hybrid is better than F5 more vigor may not breed true but you will find a better mother. Buy what you want I'm straight with DJ's overpriced seeds with the countless shit germination rates I see all the time.

Stop with the F1's produce unstable results myth. For the love of Cannabis and Breeding.

Polyhybrid's are unstable. Real F1's are not (and they're not lacking in vigor either, which is why most consumers actually want them regardless of what they think they know). Actual F1's also happen to be a lot more difficult to faithfully reproduce.

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

Two that I have tried recently that are very stable, almost like clones in seed form are Female Seeds C-99 and Cannabiogen Peyote Purple. Both very nice, but neither are exceptional IMO. Very homogenous though

Then there is grape god from next generations. Run it several times over several years and it all ways delivered the same product with minor variation.

 

[bluntmassa1]

Stop with the F1's produce unstable results myth. For the love of Cannabis and Breeding.

Polyhybrid's are unstable. Real F1's are not (and they're not lacking in vigor either, which is why most consumers actually want them regardless of what they think they know). Actual F1's also happen to be a lot more difficult to faithfully reproduce.

I never said unstable but their damn sure is variation in F1 also I said F1 would have more vigor and I know all about F2's having more variation. so yeah I don't know what your talking about F1's don't breed true every plant is a little different their is no myth just facts.

 

[Jd Short]

You are breaking federal law by growing weed as well as selling seeds locally. Also why can I get Greenhouse seeds (they don't ship to the USA) dirt cheap like $40 a pack for some at Attitude but DJ is more like $150 a pack?? Many other breeders are pretty cheap too, Serious their better than DJ AK-47 is still winning cups, cheaper and some decent smoke in the pack I had.

So...you think I should break laws and risk it more to get you seeds for cheaper so you can tell me how much you think they suck....your logic is baffling.

And you can probably get greenhouse seeds for 40 a pack cause they're cash-cropping beans and strains. Dj never did that, he took his time and selectively choose the genetics he wished to work with. He didn't just put pollen A). to 100 different pheno's and pick the dankest looking offspring. As if looks are somehow indicative of medicinal value or effect. So silly is this pheno hunting gold rush. We're picking plants based on how they look in the bag and trying to call it breeding....lol. If I'm not mistaken, this is what we're referring to as pollen chucking. And anyone with enough resources (money) and the will to break enough laws can pollen chuck these strains into existence. But if we want something that caters to our specific ailments or specific environments, we'll probably have to pay someone to breed them, not pollen chuck them. So, get your pack of bag appeal beans from greenhouse. But if you want medicine, pay the extra few bucks to employ someone to breed it.

 

[Jd Short]

Look dude, I never said half of those breeders you listed were good. You are here to pick a fight we can smell it so just mosey along and go get your rocks off doing something productive. Lets get back to what this thread is about.

yeah, if you're not gonna bash the people Arthur wants you to you should shut up.

 

[Beemo]

yeah, if you're not gonna bash the people Arthur wants you to you should shut up.

thats what i did...

 

[Jd Short]

thats what i did...

He's just trolling and trying to be a bully. It's pretty clearly obvious that he's the one getting off with the arguing. 'F' em. He's obviously employed or just 'dick-riding' (as he stated) another seed company. That's why he accuses anyone who disagrees with him of just 'dick-riding' or being a 'fan-boy.' Because that's all he's doing. What's the saying?
"He who smelt it.....dealt it."