Israel say's no Palestine, ever.

Should the US support Israel?


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Red1966

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they totally try to supress the vote in florida and it's such an insult..yet that freak gets RE-elected$$$$$$$$.
Sounds like sour grapes to me. You know they could never find a single person in Florida who was denied a vote, yet you continue to promote that lie. Face it, you lost.
 

Red1966

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at one time there was no isreal either.so whats your point.the reality is there will be a palistinian state america cannot continue to look the other way.
Don't b e so sure. The surrounding Arab states, while publicly promoting this, continue to thwart it. Nor will they allow Palestinians to immigrate.
 

ttystikk

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they totally try to supress the vote in florida and it's such an insult..yet that freak gets RE-elected$$$$$$$$.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I fear for the future of our country, because of reduced school funding leaving the average American less intelligent about politics, less informed and more likely to merely believe the spin on teevee.
 

Jimdamick

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Like after your tirade about a the Jews you thought twice and tried to pretend any observation of the bigotry in your statements was merely a misperception on our part? You claim I'm both Jewish and anti-Jew. Clearly, you're both a liar and an idiot.
Why would I lie, when the facts are on the table, so to speak. I didn't make up one thing, because there is no need to.
There is no Palestine. Consult a map. Israel isn't going anywhere, for a lot of valid reasons. One state is all that's left.

Can't spin back the clock and start over, which is basically what the two state camp wants. Today's reality points to a single state with universal suffrage... or continued apartheid, which I don't want my tax dollars paying for- nevermind paying off our weapons makers to make more weapons and use them to kill innocent people, no matter what their religion or origin.
Well, maybe the clock of Israeli expansion can be slowed at least, and hopefully stopped. There used to be a Palestine, before the "Israelis" arrived in 1948, so, what is the world to do? Allow the uncontrolled expansion of Israel (Golan comes to mind), which the world say's it should stop, but does nothing, and meanwhile Russia takes the Crimea, and the world tries to cut off their balls. Tell what is the difference? One can grab land, and they other can't? Oh, now I remember! The Jews have a deed to the land, the Bible, and the Russians don't.
That explains everything right?
 

schuylaar

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. I fear for the future of our country, because of reduced school funding leaving the average American less intelligent about politics, less informed and more likely to merely believe the spin on teevee.
precisely..we've become an information nation and basically believe anything that anyone puts out there if they 'appear' to be in authority,

you see there's a difference there.

example: i pulled a mini sociological experiment on my fellow classmates the beginning of the semester: my professor was late to class and i was last to walk in seeing he wasn't there i pretended to be the professor..and everyone bought it..it has to do with symbolism..you guys have seen that commercial, where the financial planner reveals he's a DJ? same concept.
 

schuylaar

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Sounds like sour grapes to me. You know they could never find a single person in Florida who was denied a vote, yet you continue to promote that lie. Face it, you lost.
suppress and deny have different definitions..once again twisting my words cant any of you GOPers get it right?..i mean, my quote is right in front of you..you're replying to it..what the hell goes on in your mind that it's this misconstrued?

did you have issue in vocabulary as a kid?
 

ttystikk

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suppress and deny have different definitions..once again twisting my words cant any of you GOPers get it right?..i mean, my quote is right in front of you..you're replying to it..what the hell goes on in your mind that it's this misconstrued?

did you have issue in vocabulary as a kid?
Lack of school funding... it certainly helps explain the popularity and influence of Faux Spews.
 

Red1966

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Why would I lie, when the facts are on the table, so to speak. I didn't make up one thing, because there is no need to.

Well, maybe the clock of Israeli expansion can be slowed at least, and hopefully stopped. There used to be a Palestine, before the "Israelis" arrived in 1948, so, what is the world to do? Allow the uncontrolled expansion of Israel (Golan comes to mind), which the world say's it should stop, but does nothing, and meanwhile Russia takes the Crimea, and the world tries to cut off their balls. Tell what is the difference? One can grab land, and they other can't? Oh, now I remember! The Jews have a deed to the land, the Bible, and the Russians don't.
That explains everything right?
1)There never has been a nation of Palestine.2) The Jews where there 2,500 years ago. Your "opinions" are based on racism, not facts.
 

Red1966

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. I fear for the future of our country, because of reduced school funding leaving the average American less intelligent about politics, less informed and more likely to merely believe the spin on teevee.
Schools have more funding per student now than ever before. It's not lack of money, it's poor choices in spending. There is a book comprised of letters sent home by Civil War troops that were written by men with only a few years schooling, at best, that put to shame college educated journalists of modern times.
 

Red1966

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suppress and deny have different definitions..once again twisting my words cant any of you GOPers get it right?..i mean, my quote is right in front of you..you're replying to it..what the hell goes on in your mind that it's this misconstrued?

did you have issue in vocabulary as a kid?
So you concede that not a single person was denied a vote, yet still blather on about this non-existent "voter suppression"? And since I've repeatedly told you that I am a registered Democrat, your "GOPer" reference is either dishonesty or stupidity. My vocabulary is just fine, you're the one who apparently doesn't know what "suppression" is.
 

Jimdamick

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1)There never has been a nation of Palestine.2) The Jews where there 2,500 years ago. Your "opinions" are based on racism, not facts.
OK, boyo, That's right, there never has been a " Nation of Palestine". and that is because they have been fucked with since at least the Greeks, then came the Romans, then came the Ottomans, then came Great Britain, and then came the fucking Jews from Europe in 1948, The Jews were there 2500 years ago, well you are right there for a change, but what the fuck claim do they actually have to steal back land, as they think they owned it? Did you ever hear of the Diaspora, which means that the Jews left Israel, and went all over the world? They left, and the Palestinians stayed, which by the way, have been there longer than the Jews, seeing that group had to escape from the Egyptians, wandered around the desert for years, and then ended up in, Holy Shit, Palestine! I wonder if anyone else lived there before the Jews showed up. Point being, that other people lived there also, at least as long as the Jews.
 

Red1966

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OK, boyo, That's right, there never has been a " Nation of Palestine". and that is because they have been fucked with since at least the Greeks, then came the Romans, then came the Ottomans, then came Great Britain, and then came the fucking Jews from Europe in 1948, The Jews were there 2500 years ago, well you are right there for a change, but what the fuck claim do they actually have to steal back land, as they think they owned it? Did you ever hear of the Diaspora, which means that the Jews left Israel, and went all over the world? They left, and the Palestinians stayed, which by the way, have been there longer than the Jews, seeing that group had to escape from the Egyptians, wandered around the desert for years, and then ended up in, Holy Shit, Palestine! I wonder if anyone else lived there before the Jews showed up. Point being, that other people lived there also, at least as long as the Jews.
Actually, in 1948, almost nobody at all lived there. Most of what you call Palestinians are immigrants who came there after 1948 when world powers limited Jews from immigrating there and "encouraged" poor Arabs to. And yes the Canaanites (not Palestinians) were there before the Jews, but they're all dead.
 

Jimdamick

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Actually, in 1948, almost nobody at all lived there. Most of what you call Palestinians are immigrants who came there after 1948 when world powers limited Jews from immigrating there and "encouraged" poor Arabs to. And yes the Canaanites (not Palestinians) were there before the Jews, but they're all dead.
What the fuck are you talking about? Nobody lived there? Where did you learn that shit you spew? Give me a reference to that nonsense, that wasn't written by a Zionist.
 

ttystikk

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OK, boyo, That's right, there never has been a " Nation of Palestine". and that is because they have been fucked with since at least the Greeks, then came the Romans, then came the Ottomans, then came Great Britain, and then came the fucking Jews from Europe in 1948, The Jews were there 2500 years ago, well you are right there for a change, but what the fuck claim do they actually have to steal back land, as they think they owned it? Did you ever hear of the Diaspora, which means that the Jews left Israel, and went all over the world? They left, and the Palestinians stayed, which by the way, have been there longer than the Jews, seeing that group had to escape from the Egyptians, wandered around the desert for years, and then ended up in, Holy Shit, Palestine! I wonder if anyone else lived there before the Jews showed up. Point being, that other people lived there also, at least as long as the Jews.
Good point- so no matter what it's called, everyone should have representation in the nation that's sitting on the land.
 

see4

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Actually, in 1948, almost nobody at all lived there. Most of what you call Palestinians are immigrants who came there after 1948 when world powers limited Jews from immigrating there and "encouraged" poor Arabs to. And yes the Canaanites (not Palestinians) were there before the Jews, but they're all dead.
Nope.

http://www.science.co.il/History-Palestine.php

And other civilizations lived there long before.
 

OGEvilgenius

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we need to stop giving the 51st state money . Fucking broke as beggars. Thats all they are. They stand on the corner in a land wiht no attachment to them and with multipul legs and cant stand up yet they yell , "Brother can you spare a d.i.m.e." . They love to lkill u.s. people like Rachell Corey and steal , spy and kill u.s. soildiers .They need to stop training u.s. police thta treta us all like Palestinians now. .israel does not speak for all jews. israel got some isil love for sure. The u.s. was voted the number one threats to world piece. With buddies like Israel wouldnt ya know it. lol. Israel isnt even a allie. Show me the treaty making it so ........i know 377 congressman that should be fired for thier israel love. Why are u.s. tax payers paying for israel elections ? fuck the aparthied state. i know who the real terrorist are ! The F.B.I. calls the JDL terrorist for a reason !

There is likely much dirt on all of them. So it won't change any time soon.
 

see4

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Benjamin Netanyahu was easily re-elected yesterday by Israeli voters running on a campaign that promised there will never be a State of Palestine, and that a more robust policy of settlement building in Jerusalem and other areas that have been placed off limits by the UN, the EU and the US, will occur. They basically said, again, fuck you to the world at large, we don't care what you ask us to do, we will do what we fucking want to do
This is my question. Should we still give Israel 3.5 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, even though they as a nation voted yesterday to ignore the request by our government not to do exactly what they voted to do, or cut those cocksuckers off. I would say fuck you Israel, if you want to play by your rules only, don't expect the American people to pay for it, and don't expect any sympathy either when you cry that anti-Semitism is on the rise around the world. You voted for it in my opinion.
 

schuylaar

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Schools have more funding per student now than ever before. It's not lack of money, it's poor choices in spending. There is a book comprised of letters sent home by Civil War troops that were written by men with only a few years schooling, at best, that put to shame college educated journalists of modern times.
yeah, but could they write code and by age 30, have net worth of $35B?

apples and oranges, red.
 

schuylaar

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what's with the spying? wasn't he invited?:mrgreen:

Netanyahu accuses West of giving Iran 'unconscionable path to nuclear bomb'


Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday that the West's discussions will give Iran "a path to the [atomic bomb]," a development that Israel finds "unconscionable."

"Yesterday an Iranian official said that Israel's destruction is non-negotiable," Netanyahu said. "However, giving Iran's murderous regime the bomb is negotiable. This is unconscionable."


 
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